I avoided all the comments and reviews leading up to the movie. I have HBO Max w/ a decent home setup, but really wanted to see this in the Theaters in XD.

Definitely disappointed. I'm glad I used my "free" XD tickets and no monies.

Some thoughts:
- the 80's thing felt unnecessary and honestly like a worn out trope of using 80's "cause it's cool now". The only thing it bought was the clothes selection montage for Chris Pine (very mildly funny) and maybe some hair styles. Kept thinking why do this in the 80's?

- the other thing I thought was I remember this WW84 being announced shortly after Thor Ragnarok which had a distinctly 80's vibe to it which got folks energized but it was NOT the setting, just a vibe-ish... wondered if this was just to copy that momentum (and things like Stranger Things, etc.)

- it felt like every major scene went on about 4-5 minutes too long. The pine and WW in a jet flying around scene.. the WW can now fly on her own scene, the opening scene, the end wish scene, and in general the movie felt like it was a good 45 minutes too long. I think the editor failed here.

- there wasn't a good story development for Diana other than she wants to be with her beau, but can't... just didn't feel connected to Diana. It was hard to relate to her struggles. Like that guy is really the only guy she's ever loved. Even Captain America didn't whine about his circumstance... it's not been a plot fulcrum, but just a depth for the character... for WW, it was a big fulcrum to it.

- I kept thinking during the movie, why do I enjoy the marvel movies so much and don't enjoy these... didn't grow up a comic fanboy and I'm not a movie aficionado so I can't put my finger on it but ... in short, I see the marvel comic movies and I enjoy every single moment of them... this one, I'm bored and disconnected to the characters and plot.

I'm generally easy to please and would therefore be a terrible movies reviewer... but every once in a while, I leave feeling very Meh... and this was one of those.

Honestly, I'm bummed because theaters need a win and a good long running movie to pull people in.... and this was really only the second at-bat for them this year... swing and a miss.

oh yea... and a few more things.

I get tired of the "evil oil guys" trope in all these movies. wears me out.

and I'm not a fan of changing the aspect ratio during the movies from IMAX to Cinemascope... just pick one!

TexasAggie_02 said:

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TCTTS said:

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You know what else really bugs me about this movie?

In Man of Steel, Perry White and a few other people give Lois Lane sh*t for pursuing a story about a potentially super-human man/alien, as if that was the most ridiculous thing ever. When, now, in that same reality, less than 30 years prior, a super-human woman spoke to all of Earth via satellite (via her literal "Lasso of Truth"), inspiring them to renounce their wishes after a stone created by a literal Greek god granted a huge swath of humanity said wishes, resulting in nukes being launched and a near-cataclysmic global event that, in its wake, would have been studied more than any event in all of human history. In fact, it would have irrevocably changed the world forever. ANYTHING would have been possible after that. In that universe, in that 1984, the entire world experienced clear confirmation that Greek gods were, in fact, real. And 30 years later everyone's like, "OMG an alien!!! We're not alone???!!!" Not to mention, in Batman v Superman, Diana herself is still basically anonymous?

Whaaat?

God, I hate WW84 movie so much. Like, I don't *really* care about the MoS/BvS inconsistencies it created, it's the fact that the *creators* don't care that irks me.

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The only way that they could have salvaged this and not have it effect the later movies is to have everything reset when Lord recants his wish. Basically, if his wish never happens, then none of the other wishes happened, and he jumps back to his desk staring at the stone. But that itself would create a problem, b/c Diana's and Mierva's wishes came prior to that scene, so their wishes would still be active. I know Diana took her wish back, but if you revert time back to a few days prior, then it would still be active....nevermind, ignore everything i just said, this movie is unfixable.

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The only way you could've fixed the movie I think, would have been for wonder woman to go back in time before all the wishes were made and stop this movie from being released in post production.

john32f said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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TCTTS said:

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You know what else really bugs me about this movie?

In Man of Steel, Perry White and a few other people give Lois Lane sh*t for pursuing a story about a potentially super-human man/alien, as if that was the most ridiculous thing ever. When, now, in that same reality, less than 30 years prior, a super-human woman spoke to all of Earth via satellite (via her literal "Lasso of Truth"), inspiring them to renounce their wishes after a stone created by a literal Greek god granted a huge swath of humanity said wishes, resulting in nukes being launched and a near-cataclysmic global event that, in its wake, would have been studied more than any event in all of human history. In fact, it would have irrevocably changed the world forever. ANYTHING would have been possible after that. In that universe, in that 1984, the entire world experienced clear confirmation that Greek gods were, in fact, real. And 30 years later everyone's like, "OMG an alien!!! We're not alone???!!!" Not to mention, in Batman v Superman, Diana herself is still basically anonymous?

Whaaat?

God, I hate WW84 movie so much. Like, I don't *really* care about the MoS/BvS inconsistencies it created, it's the fact that the *creators* don't care that irks me.

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The only way that they could have salvaged this and not have it effect the later movies is to have everything reset when Lord recants his wish. Basically, if his wish never happens, then none of the other wishes happened, and he jumps back to his desk staring at the stone. But that itself would create a problem, b/c Diana's and Mierva's wishes came prior to that scene, so their wishes would still be active. I know Diana took her wish back, but if you revert time back to a few days prior, then it would still be active....nevermind, ignore everything i just said, this movie is unfixable.

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The only way you could've fixed the movie I think, would have been for wonder woman to go back in time before all the wishes were made and stop this movie from being released in post production.

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Even better...when she gets back in time and goes to the studio you have Deadpool sitting there when she walks in and he just says, "We've been waiting on you."

Movie ends.

YouBet said:

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john32f said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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TCTTS said:

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You know what else really bugs me about this movie?

In Man of Steel, Perry White and a few other people give Lois Lane sh*t for pursuing a story about a potentially super-human man/alien, as if that was the most ridiculous thing ever. When, now, in that same reality, less than 30 years prior, a super-human woman spoke to all of Earth via satellite (via her literal "Lasso of Truth"), inspiring them to renounce their wishes after a stone created by a literal Greek god granted a huge swath of humanity said wishes, resulting in nukes being launched and a near-cataclysmic global event that, in its wake, would have been studied more than any event in all of human history. In fact, it would have irrevocably changed the world forever. ANYTHING would have been possible after that. In that universe, in that 1984, the entire world experienced clear confirmation that Greek gods were, in fact, real. And 30 years later everyone's like, "OMG an alien!!! We're not alone???!!!" Not to mention, in Batman v Superman, Diana herself is still basically anonymous?

Whaaat?

God, I hate WW84 movie so much. Like, I don't *really* care about the MoS/BvS inconsistencies it created, it's the fact that the *creators* don't care that irks me.

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The only way that they could have salvaged this and not have it effect the later movies is to have everything reset when Lord recants his wish. Basically, if his wish never happens, then none of the other wishes happened, and he jumps back to his desk staring at the stone. But that itself would create a problem, b/c Diana's and Mierva's wishes came prior to that scene, so their wishes would still be active. I know Diana took her wish back, but if you revert time back to a few days prior, then it would still be active....nevermind, ignore everything i just said, this movie is unfixable.

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The only way you could've fixed the movie I think, would have been for wonder woman to go back in time before all the wishes were made and stop this movie from being released in post production.

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Even better...when she gets back in time and goes to the studio you have Deadpool sitting there when she walks in and he just says, "We've been waiting on you."

Movie ends.

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I wonder if Deadpool 3 will have a reference to WW84. Probably more likely than not, at least during the end credits.

Ulrich said:

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YouBet said:

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john32f said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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TCTTS said:

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You know what else really bugs me about this movie?

In Man of Steel, Perry White and a few other people give Lois Lane sh*t for pursuing a story about a potentially super-human man/alien, as if that was the most ridiculous thing ever. When, now, in that same reality, less than 30 years prior, a super-human woman spoke to all of Earth via satellite (via her literal "Lasso of Truth"), inspiring them to renounce their wishes after a stone created by a literal Greek god granted a huge swath of humanity said wishes, resulting in nukes being launched and a near-cataclysmic global event that, in its wake, would have been studied more than any event in all of human history. In fact, it would have irrevocably changed the world forever. ANYTHING would have been possible after that. In that universe, in that 1984, the entire world experienced clear confirmation that Greek gods were, in fact, real. And 30 years later everyone's like, "OMG an alien!!! We're not alone???!!!" Not to mention, in Batman v Superman, Diana herself is still basically anonymous?

Whaaat?

God, I hate WW84 movie so much. Like, I don't *really* care about the MoS/BvS inconsistencies it created, it's the fact that the *creators* don't care that irks me.

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The only way that they could have salvaged this and not have it effect the later movies is to have everything reset when Lord recants his wish. Basically, if his wish never happens, then none of the other wishes happened, and he jumps back to his desk staring at the stone. But that itself would create a problem, b/c Diana's and Mierva's wishes came prior to that scene, so their wishes would still be active. I know Diana took her wish back, but if you revert time back to a few days prior, then it would still be active....nevermind, ignore everything i just said, this movie is unfixable.

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The only way you could've fixed the movie I think, would have been for wonder woman to go back in time before all the wishes were made and stop this movie from being released in post production.

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Even better...when she gets back in time and goes to the studio you have Deadpool sitting there when she walks in and he just says, "We've been waiting on you."

Movie ends.

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I wonder if Deadpool 3 will have a reference to WW84. Probably more likely than not, at least during the end credits.

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He'll have to, like thank you WW84 for creating a DC movie worse than RR's Green Lantern

All this timeline and continuity stuff doesn't matter to me nearly as much as you guys. I just don't care that much if it all lines up with the other crappy DC movies. Ideally, yeah it would be better if it all synced up, but I can enjoy a movie for what it is.

That being said, this movie sucks either way.

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All this timeline and continuity stuff doesn't matter to me nearly as much as you guys. I just don't care that much if it all lines up with the other crappy DC movies. Ideally, yeah it would be better if it all synced up, but I can enjoy a movie for what it is.

That being said, this movie sucks either way.

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This DC universe has always been the Go-Bots to Marvel's Transformers. They sold plenty of them, but no one really expected it to be as good or fun.

Finally giving this a shot before it leaves HBO Max in a week.

I'm an hour into it (she just turned the jet invisible !?) and I can't believe it's been one hour. The opening mall bit was just bad. Bad effects, bad stunts, bad writing. And what is the deal with the rampant male chauvinism? It's beyond exaggerated and just makes me cringe.

My wife and I are shaking our heads that the plot is a magic wishing rock. Oh well, 90 more minutes to go.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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Finally giving this a shot before it leaves HBO Max in a week.

I'm an hour into it (she just turned the jet invisible !?) and I can't believe it's been one hour. The opening mall bit was just bad. Bad effects, bad stunts, bad writing. And what is the deal with the rampant male chauvinism? It's beyond exaggerated and just makes me cringe.

My wife and I are shaking our heads that the plot is a magic wishing rock. Oh well, 90 more minutes to go.

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Have courage. You can do it!

2 hour update: This is bad.

Pine is still fun to watch and Gadot is gorgeous. But this script is just awful and Wiig is terrible and really pointless.

Oh, and Pascal is weirdly interesting in this. Almost like he's in a different movie.

Just saw Wonder Woman start flying and I said "so, she can fly now?" My wife replied "well of course she can. Even Princess Leia is flying now."

Just so severely disappointed. I didn't hate the movie, but it was pretty stupid. That no one questioned the stupidity of the plot/script is baffling. This would make a good episode of "How Did This Get Made."