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FancyKetchup14 said:

Yada yada yada, when tf are you gonna watch TENET?

Ha, this is going to sound insane, but I decided I HAVE to watch it on a weekend. I thought about doing it earlier this week, on a weeknight, but it just felt so wrong and uneventful. I need it to feel like a real blockbuster experience, and I almost always would watch those at the theater on a Saturday afternoon or night. So when I missed my window last weekend with so much football on and work and family Zooms, I had to wait 'til this weekend. It's like going to Mars - you can only do it in prime conditions, when the planets are closest and aligned. In other words, tomorrow is the day, my runway is clear, and I cannot wait. I just listened to the latest The Big Picture podcast on Tenet, and they all loved it, and it got me hyped all over again.
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I seriously think this entire movie was reverse engineered from a mandate that Chris Pine had to return, even though he exploded in the last one.
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That was the worst movie I have seen in a long time. Holy crap ami glad I used up a free trial on HBO Max rather than dropping $60+ to take my family to the theater. That was hard to sit through.
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C@LAg said:

TCTTS said:

I seriously think this entire movie was reverse engineered from a mandate that Chris Pine had to return, even though he exploded in the last one.
then they could have set it in modern times, and had either Zeus or Hades resurrect him for story "reasons".

or hell, have him somehow escape the underworld having been exposed to a demi-goddess so he never forgot his living life like the rest of the dead do (per greek myth)
The first movie was fun and enjoyable, and there was a lot of interesting things they could have done with this movie. Instead they decided to release the movie we saw.
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That opening in the mall was SSSSSOOOOOO cheesy. Knew what we were in for from the start. When she was talking to the guy at the end, all I could think of was "she's seen your dick and you got nothing out of it"
Terrible
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That was a good episode. I was glad to hear Fennessy liked it considering his opinion of Nolan in the past.
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I liked 80% of the first film before the final cgi boss fight at the end. This movie just didn't really connect with me as much. I get what they were going for here but there are better ways to handle the cheesiness than this. Wigg didn't have to be a total spaz. Pedro could have toned it down a little and still been convincing as a snake oil salesmen, maybe a little more nuance in his descent.

I thought the conceit was clever but not executed greatly. It is weird because the frenetic nature of the ending is exactly what they were going for in that final sequence as the world descended into madness but it didn't make good movie making if that makes sense. Frankly I got weird Mother! Vibes at the end and not in a good way
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Our review after thinking about it which didn't take long.

Opening Scene:
Completely unnecessary because we got that in the first movie. We already know she's special even compared to her Amazonian peers. Why are we doing this again?

Mall Scene:
Felt like Stranger Things S3 with WW injected but ST did it better but without WW.

Rest of Movie:
Complete plot holed horsesh^t where dramatic moments were so flat we laughed at it.

Highlights:
Gadot was beautiful and Chris Pine was charismatic as usual. That's it.

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Whoever wrote that movie DID NOT understand the Monkeys Paw.
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Terrible. The DC Franchise is just a mess.
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Good Lord that was tough... if they had to bring back Pine then make him green lantern and be done with it. He was chosen due to his noble death and was chosen... didn't have turn into freaky Friday. Tell me if I'm wrong cuz we only saw the face of freaky Pine once but was he the guy at the end wearing the scarf and wacky suit? After 2:15 I couldn't remember what he looked like
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Ha better reference but without the clay
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That was a mess.
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She is Superman, Spider-man and hulk buster all in 1 movie!
bad_teammate said on 2/10/21:
Just imagine how 1/6 would've played out if DC hadn't had such strict gun laws.

Two people starred his post as of the time of this signature. Those 3 people are allowed to vote in the US.
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I did like the opening scene in Amazon Land and the cool design of the triathlon.

I also liked the scene where Barbara bumps into the guy who tried to assault her earlier and beats the **** out of him. I think that's a pretty accurate depiction of what a lot of people would do if they suddenly had all that strength and speed - take it out on people who had wronged them.

I liked the invisible jet scene too, really cool effects with the fireworks and Chris Pine playing up Steve's emotions of getting to fly a modern-day plane.

I think my biggest problem was that in the first one she's Wonder Woman 98% of the movie, and Diana Prince about 2%.

In this one it felt like I was having to wait 45 minutes at a time to see her as Wonder Woman. It reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises - oceans of time went by before I saw Batman.

The plot was a mess, and I feel a lot of that weakness is that because the original was built into World War I, where we knew the stakes and the players and it was easy to imagine and want there to be a hero to help out our soldiers.

Mando helping a guy achieve his dream of owning cows is not a good follow-up to that.
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I actually bought Tenet on digital the day it came out then waited till Friday night to watch it
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So just finished and that was...a movie.

Happy that we watched Soul earlier in the day so that we got to see a piece of truly beautiful filmmaking.
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The invisible jet scene would have been cool if the whole premise wasn't ridiculous.

Where did they go to steal it? A museum? If so, why is there fuel in it? They're going to fly all the way to Egypt in it, and it doesn't have a fuel tank big enough for that (once we ignore it having any fuel in the first place), but let's waste a ton of it burning through barrel rolls as we watch the fire works.


And did Wonder Woman always fly? I mean glide on the air? And lasso clouds? lol
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Took the family tonight and I was so grateful to be taking my family to see a blockbuster new release in the theater I didn't even care that this installment sucked, and sucked hard.

I was "ok" with everything until they got in the jet.

Steve Trevor was a WW1 pilot, how in god's name is he just going to climb into the cockpit of a supersonic jet and fly like he's a top gun? Then, Diana all the sudden turns the jet invisible for the rest of the movie after disappearing a coffee cup once, and to top it all off, they manage to slow the jet down to about 10 miles per hour and cruise around through a fireworks show.

I've always thought Kristin Wiig was very pretty, but damn she looked good in this movie. Gal Godot is such an unbelievable smokeshow. It ridiculous how beautiful she is in the Wonder Woman suit. She needs to ditch the golden suit, though. I kept getting some serious It's Always Sunny/Birds of War vibes.
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Easily one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen, if not *the* worst. Started around 1pm, it's nearly 11:30pm now, and I'm finally done. Took me over 10 hours to get through it, between welcomed breaks of laundry, work, and a bit of the Mavs/Lakers game.

What an absolute sh*t show.

How the hell did actual professionals come up with, agree to be in, and sign off on this mess? In addition to the many issues already mentioned, there is no reason this needed to be set in 1984, they didn't utilize the period at all, Diana learned literally the same lessons she learned in the first movie (save for the power of flight), and then lost Steve AGAIN in basically the exact same way (self sacrifice), with the exact same emotional result, and I just don't understand the point of any of it at all.

The most confusing thing, though, is how this wasn't panned harder by the critics who saw it early. There were a decent number of so-so reactions, among quite a few positives, but this is so historically bad that I'm shocked it took this long for that narrative to take hold. In addition to the reactions here, I've been scrolling Twitter today and Average Joe movie-goer really seems to despise this thing, and rightfully so. So how did we not know it was such a colossal mess going in?

This was originally supposed to come out November '19, was set to be completed in time for release, but then pushed to June '20. Then, obviously, it pushed again due to Covid. In other words, this movie has been sitting on the shelf for an entire year, and WB either inexplicably didn't know they had an all-time stinker, or did nothing to try and salvage it during that time. Granted, I don't know how you'd even begin to try, as it's flawed to its core, but, just... how? How did they screw this up THIS bad?
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This was such an easy slam dunk for DC and they whiffed so bad.

Everyone has been waiting for a blockbuster to come out and they had the formula. Add in the 80's and all they had to do was just not be stupid.

I honestly have a hard time understanding how they could've messed it up this bad.
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The more I think about it the more annoyed I am by a variety of narrative choices.

The initial concept maybe could have kinda worked had they limited it and even had a bit of potential to be clever, but there was so much pure randomness about this that as a whole it's like wtf.

After 50 years of doing this the general public is only kind of aware of who WW is? Why is a fully fueled fighter with range to get to Egypt sitting outside the Smithsonian? What happened to Handsome Guy that Steve just popped into and why couldn't he have just shown up? And if Steve was "in" Handsome Guy didn't he have his ID/passport? Why is the secret tv station fully staffed and ready to go live at 30 seconds notice? How were 8 bit CRTs able to display a tv signal? How was the message being broadcast when the camera was knocked out?

I came in expecting to like this from the general critical response but it was just so all over the place. Reading the reviews that like it they seem to focus on being emotionally connected to the film, which is fine and a fair reason to like a movie, but they just gloss over the rather large plot holes and shortcomings as "not flawless" rather than calling it what it is.
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Even then, I still don't understand where those people are coming from or what there is to be "emotionally connected" to. It's not like there's a good movie or emotional arc somewhere in there despite the plot holes and absurdities. Dianna learns *nothing* new on an emotional level. It's all the same, basic emotional beats and realizations and lessons from the first one, just handled worse, with the added issue of it all feeling like a stale retread this time.
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Agreed, none of the things I was reading felt like much more than surface level or more just "I really like this character". The film just didn't seem well thought through on any level.

And Kingsman did the "world eating itself" concept much more convincingly.
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That was awful, and extremely cheesy.
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Watched last night, maybe the worst comic movie I've ever seen. Worse than Green Lantern or any Zach Snyder DC films. I enjoyed the first film so I'm by no means a Wonder Woman hater. The dialogue is bad, the plot is worse. It felt like a movie from the 80s in the worst way. The villain is pointless. There's no connection to the greater DC universe, the only reason to have it set in 1984 is to quarantine this movie from everything else.

You need a film to illustrate the difference in the MCU and DC, this is it. Who are the people that like this movie? I mean does this movie want to be Aladdin or Wishmaster? There's nothing compelling about it. Star Wars is having Patty Jenkins do Rogue Squadron, they might want to rethink that decision after seeing this garbage film.

It's a total waste of your time, it's not even an enjoyably bad movie.
 
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