Azariah said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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You people really aren't painting a rosy picture on this. I personally don't care for comic book movies (sans Nolan Batman). But the daughter is twelve and girl power and all that crap. I guess we will wait for something else.

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If you check literally all critical thinking at the door, you can enjoy the flashing lights and cool poses. That might be enough for your 12-year-old. Watched it with my 14 and 13-year-old daughters as well as my everyone-buys-her-wonder-woman-stuff wife, and they all despised it. I'm pretty sure this made them all question whether women should be allowed to make movies.

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This is as ****ty a comment as it gets. Do you question if males should be allowed to make movies because men have made a whole hell of a lot more ****ty movies than women have.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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YouBet said:

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Azariah said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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You people really aren't painting a rosy picture on this. I personally don't care for comic book movies (sans Nolan Batman). But the daughter is twelve and girl power and all that crap. I guess we will wait for something else.

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If you check literally all critical thinking at the door, you can enjoy the flashing lights and cool poses. That might be enough for your 12-year-old. Watched it with my 14 and 13-year-old daughters as well as my everyone-buys-her-wonder-woman-stuff wife, and they all despised it. I'm pretty sure this made them all question whether women should be allowed to make movies.

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My wife hated it. She actually broke the seal first during the movie about how bad it was. From there it became more entertaining commentating on it.

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Me early on "the most important thing Wonder Woman has to do is patrol malls for crimes?" and later "seriously....this is like a genie thing?".

My wife got up about 45 mins in said "the dogs need to go out....but don't pause it for me"...went out with the dogs and came back 10 mins later. she asked what she missed and I said "more nonsense".

My daughter near the end... "oh god now it's turning into "CATS".

Daughter at the end "that was worse than Aquaman"
Son: "Well it's DC what do you expect?"

We did make it through but the following conversation was about everything wrong with it.

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DC must have been like, "Hey, you remember that movie last year with Taylor Swift that everyone hated from the first preview because of how weird the CGI anthropomorphic cats looked? Yeah let's just rip them off and make that our villain."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/27/wonder-woman-1984-opening-weekend-leads-to-fast-tracked-third-film.html

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/wonder-woman-3-gal-gadot-patty-jenkins-1234875194/

The memes about this crap movie have already begun lmao.

There wasn't any doubt about there being a third movie

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Wonder Woman 1984' scores highest box office opening of the pandemic,

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Not saying much there

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I enjoyed the movie more than part 1. It felt like a throwback to the classic Superman movies to me. Admittedly, I'm into 80's cheese, and if you're not, I could see people not digging it.

My major complaint is the music not being nearly as cool as in the first movie. Her original theme is just so badass and it never really plays in its original form.

Villain was obviously a major improvement from the first one.

I'd probably place it behind MoS, BvS, and Shazam. But way ahead of the others in the DCEU.

Edit: Probably behind Aquaman, too.

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This movie would have been better if they had leaned into the 80s cheese, so that comment doesn't track.

PatAg said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I enjoyed the movie more than part 1. It felt like a throwback to the classic Superman movies to me. Admittedly, I'm into 80's cheese, and if you're not, I could see people not digging it.

My major complaint is the music not being nearly as cool as in the first movie. Her original theme is just so badass and it never really plays in its original form.

Villain was obviously a major improvement from the first one.

I'd probably place it behind MoS, BvS, and Shazam. But way ahead of the others in the DCEU.

Edit: Probably behind Aquaman, too.

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This movie would have been better if they had leaned into the 80s cheese, so that comment doesn't track.

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I don't think it gets any cheesier than a mall having a black market archaeology and antiquities store in the back and having to rescue two kids playing soccer in the middle of a highway.

Maybe they should have had Chris Pine spying on Gal Gadot taking a shower through a hole in the wall?

Champ Bailey said:

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Maybe they should have had Chris Pine spying on Gal Gadot taking a shower through a hole in the wall?

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Branching off from opinion stuff about the movie...

So what was Minerva losing as a result of gaining her powers?

Because Diana was losing her powers as a result of wishing for Steve

THe movie, I think, confused a lot of people to where they thought Diana was losing her powers because Minerva wished for them. It later establishes that its a "monkeys paw", but I dont think they ever showed what Minerva lost.

THen she got a 2nd wish to become an apex predator (?????)

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Branching off from opinion stuff about the movie...

So what was Minerva losing as a result of gaining her powers?

Because Diana was losing her powers as a result of wishing for Steve

THe movie, I think, confused a lot of people to where they thought Diana was losing her powers because Minerva wished for them. It later establishes that its a "monkeys paw", but I dont think they ever showed what Minerva lost.

THen she got a 2nd wish to become an apex predator (?????)

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She was losing her compassion and humanity.

They established early with her helping the homeless guy that she cared for others.

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PatAg said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I enjoyed the movie more than part 1. It felt like a throwback to the classic Superman movies to me. Admittedly, I'm into 80's cheese, and if you're not, I could see people not digging it.

My major complaint is the music not being nearly as cool as in the first movie. Her original theme is just so badass and it never really plays in its original form.

Villain was obviously a major improvement from the first one.

I'd probably place it behind MoS, BvS, and Shazam. But way ahead of the others in the DCEU.

Edit: Probably behind Aquaman, too.

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This movie would have been better if they had leaned into the 80s cheese, so that comment doesn't track.

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I don't think it gets any cheesier than a mall having a black market archaeology and antiquities store in the back and having to rescue two kids playing soccer in the middle of a highway.

Maybe they should have had Chris Pine spying on Gal Gadot taking a shower through a hole in the wall?

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It was barely 80s-esque. Could have been set at any time really. Other than the cold war vibe and a few wardrobe things (a quick sequence of Chris Pine costume changes) and the mall vey little made it 80s. The two kids playing soccer were in the middle east somewhere - they play soccer there over anything else and could have been any era. That did not say 80s to me.

WW84 had no 80s soundtrack songs to speak of - just one song playing at the gala event. Could have had various 80s songs during her flying or any of the battles. There wasn't much in the way of 80s big hair, no Madonna look, what about baggy pants, acid washed jeans or big shoulder pads. The computers were actually bad could have had an original Mac for example they just had generic terminals. CD players were a big new thing in 1984. The cars looked outdated for sure but no really 80s signature cars they used a Camaro in the opening scene - but how about bad 80s cars like Fiero, Yugo, Cadillac Seville, several boxy sporty cars to choose like Subaru XT or Buick Reatta, or really sporty like the 280ZX.

Missed the mark for me in several areas.

Compare to Stranger Things that does a deep dive in 80s nostalgia - music, shirts, movie references, halloween costumes, cars, different style looks, etc.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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WW84 had no 80s soundtrack songs to speak of - just one song playing at the gala event.

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My wife loved the first trailer and agreed to take the whole family. Right before it started she said, "I hope there's a really great soundtrack." She's been watching The Crown and love Hans Zimmer's score, so I was really impressed she knew he was scoring WW84. About 24 hours later I realized she had meant a soundtrack full of 80s music, which there was zero of.

I agree that the lack of 80s soundtrack was both surprising and disappointing.

The orchestral version of Blue Monday in the first trailer was absolutely fantastic.

But even the mall scene did nothing for me from an 80s perspective simply because Stranger Things did it better. And that's probably an unfair comparison and shouldn't matter, but ST did the 80's almost perfectly so anything coming behind it has a high hurdle to clear.

And by putting '84 in the title of the movie they set an expectation with at least the GenX and older millennials that you would have an '80s backdrop. Well, aside from the opening scene and the Reagan analog it was ignored and I think the lack of music is probably a large contributor to that.

Also, agree on the complete abandonment of WW's theme song. One of the cooler more unique ones out there. Had heavy presence in BvS, not as much in her actual solo movie, and then abandoned in her sequel.

Just really perplexed with this movie.

This was the second time in a month that a scene between Pedro Pascal and his child made me cry.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Semi-serious question:

Diana had sex with some random dude's body without his consent. Was this rape?

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Every (straight) man ever: NO

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Semi-serious question:

Diana had sex with some random dude's body without his consent. Was this rape?

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I wish she would assault me over and over and over....and over.