I'm not taking anything personally, nor am I bullying anyone. I disagreed with your take, that's all. Same as you disagreed with others' takes. You police people all the time for expressing their opinions, then when they push back you play the victim/get mad at them for "policing" you. That's been *your* MO for years.

You've acted like an unappointed mod, who is also on here like 18 hours a day, for decades. I don't police anything on here. Not sure why you'd say that. I think certain things Nolan seems to be doing with this project are really bizarre, but I truly don't care if it's something you or anyone else would appreciate. This is what happens when you get caught up defending something as if YOU made it.

He mad

We've had this conversation a dozen times.

And every single of them begins with you and a handful of others expressing negative opinions toward something, which is totally fine. It's a message board. Express whatever opinions you want.

What rubs me and others the wrong way is when either I or someone else posts in response, "Actually, I have a positive opinion because of X, Y, and Z," and you IMMEDIATELY get all defensive, play the victim, and start accusing us of "policing" you, playing message board mod, snuffing out dissenting opinions, etc.

When, in reality, you expressed your opinion, then we expressed ours. That's it.

Over and over again you're the one who's allowed to vent, but then the second someone says, "Actually, I like the thing you dislike, and here's why," you get all pissy and start getting personal like you just did, insulting me about being on here all day or whatever. Then I'll say something that you find insulting and you'll accuse me of getting personal with you, as if you're Mr. Innocent Above It All.

It's the same old crap.

I wasn't goal tending, to be clear. I was expressing confusion about why people were quick to question/assume Nolan's movie being "woke" with no proof. Nothing in the trailers or promotion of the movie is showing that and nothing in his past films has shown that. Engage with that if you want or don't, but don't flip it as goal tending. You don't have to like his movies or think he is a great director to give him the benefit of the doubt on the political leanings (or lack there of) of his movies. That was my point.

If you express an opinion opposite his at any time, in any thread, this is how he reacts. Always. Same goes for defending yourself in exactly the manner you're doing. Basically any time you differ from him in any way, even innocuously, you're "goaltending," "policing," "playing mod," "bullying," etc.

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Huh? It's an excellent translation that uses iambic pentameter to try and recreate some of the flow and sense of hearing the Odyssey in the original. The result is a much quicker, snappier version of the poem that loses a bit of the depth of some other translations that expand out without the rhyme scheme.

I swear there's a way to drag personal politics into literally everything while blaming the other side.

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It's a crap, oversimplified translation for simpletons.

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It's not. It's a different style emphasizing the rhythm and meter to give a sense of the spoken nature of the original poem, something that the vast majority of translations don't offer.

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It is, and it's well known

TC, you've literally been banned for weeks many times for bullying people on this board. Many here knows you as the very touchy, easily offended, and spiteful guy who has instigated arguments on hundreds of threads stretching back forever. This thread is just one of many examples where you will overhype a project, and when others start criticizing elements of it, you leap to defend it as though you produced it. I'll forever wish you'd just learn what the point of a ****ing message board is and either be cordial or go mod a subreddit.

I'm not sure if you peruse the internet much outside of Texags, but there is quite a bit of discussion as to perceived woke elements of this project, as well as nitpicking how different things look. I'll be honest, as a fan of much of Nolan's work, I truly thought I'd end up enjoying this movie, and the more I learn and see, the less sure of that I become. The same process happened with Ridley's Napoleon. I started off really excited, noticed a few red flags in the trailers, kind of hoped I was wrong, and ended up very disappointed with the final product outside of a few scenes.

The jury is still out on this one.

What can you find on the internet regarding this movie that gives you insight beyond what you see from the trailers?

I'm mainly referring to people on X and YouTube breaking down and analyzing what we can see in the trailers. Casting, the script (based on which translation he went with), costumes, the color/palette issues, sets, etc. Some people think it looks badass, but a lot of people are a little thrown off based on what they were hoping for.

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TC, you've literally been banned for weeks many times for bullying people on this board. Many here knows you as the very touchy, easily offended, and spiteful guy who has instigated arguments on hundreds of threads stretching back forever. This thread is just one of many examples where you will overhype a project, and when others start criticizing elements of it, you leap to defend it as though you produced it. I'll forever wish you'd just learn what the point of a ****ing message board is and either be cordial or go mod a subreddit.

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95% of the time it's been for "name-calling," for which TexAgs has a strict, no-nonsense policy, and those have only ever been for 24 hours at a time, and maybe for like three days once or twice. Not for "bulling people on this board." Yes, one time I was banned for three weeks, but that was because a, shall we say, infamous poster was defending Russell Brand against rape charges, he said something insane about his own daughters and rape, and I simply said I felt sorry for his daughters that he was their father. That's it. I admit it was probably over the line, but it wasn't some unspeakably terrible thing, nor was I "bullying" anyone.

What's hilarious is that you A) bring this "banned" thing up all the time, in exaggerated fashion, B) act like it's proof I'm some horrible person, and C) almost seem to equate it with me getting in trouble with the law or something, as if it's part of some "permanent record" I have.

All the while, during this entire exchange, YOU'VE been the one insulting ME just the same. In fact, your entire response just now was pure deflection, not addressing your own posting behavior in any way. It's always endless accusations from you, never once looking in the mirror.

I don't think you're a horrible person, but on this board you have a persistent problem with taking things too personally when people criticize a project you're protective of. That's why I had to mention your "record", because one of us has been in time out many times for going after people, and it isn't me. Enough of this. Let's get back to talking about amazing looking armor, very Mediterranean colors, and a cast full of Greeks.

And you have a very persistent problem with taking things too personally when people express their positivity for a project you have negative feelings toward (even if only slightly). You're literally doing it right now.

See how easy that is to say?

You want to be skeptical of something, I want to give it the benefit of the doubt, yet I'm the one always in the wrong for expressing my opinion, while you never are. I can't count the amount of times you've done this, while painting me as the bad guy in the process.

You two guys need to get laid.