Not appalled by any of this but to answer your question, Caviezel was cast well as Jesus. Growing up in the church, his look was pretty squared up with how Jesus was depicted. Dark hair, dark beard, fair to olive skin.



Middle Eastern is not a race, or even an ethnicity, so no swapping to speak of. That entire region had so many people moved through it due to the Greek and Roman Empires, Muslim invasions, the Crusades, the slave trade, etc, The genetic traits of appearance changed greatly. Much of Italy, Spain, and Portgual looked more like Germans at one point than they have the last couple thousand years.

I agree completely with your point that "race swapping" for historical figures is absurd regardless of the majority/minority angle. It's just dumb. Mandela should be played by a black male. Eisenhauer should be played by a white male.

As far as Helen of Troy, I think I just had it in my head that she was a more documented historical figure as opposed to more mythological. Guess I was wrong on that. As I said in a previous post, I think of lot of people just associate the character as "Greek" and find the casting pandering. It's doubtful Homer had ever even seen a black person. But to your point, this is Nolan's adaption of mythology, he's taking it in some new directions, so be it.

What has happened is it's becoming increasingly clear that Nolan is pandering to diversity, unless these are all farfetched lies. Which, they would have been debunked by now I believe if they were not being cast.

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"Almost assuredly"...this dude.

Please look at what men native to the Levant look like. Those that aren't Arab are light to olive skin tones. Look at men from Syria, and Lebanon.

It ultimately doesn't matter what skin color Christ had, but Caviezel wasn't far off enough to be implausible, unlike the majority of Nolan's casting.

These are the same people who will tell you the "Cleopatra was brown because she was from Africa!"

Exactly. This is an olive-skinned region where the range of how light or dark the olive is varies. At a minimum, Caviezel was in the range.

Holy lack of self-awareness, Batman. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle on this board, I have no idea what is

You clearly won't

I could not care less what a bunch of online, anti-woke-obsessed, middle-age dudes think of me. Talk all the **** you want, do your usual pile-on, etc. I'm beyond used to it.

As I was saying…

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I could not care less what a bunch of online, anti-woke-obsessed, middle-age dudes think of me. Talk all the **** you want, do your usual pile-on, etc. I'm beyond used to it.

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You obviously don't care. At all.

TC 75, Cliff 57. Cifff apparently taking Sunday off to "go outside" or "get a life". Not gonna win the thread that way, Booth.

Google Gemini has been so great counting posts for me that I gave it a crack to opine on the rivalry.

Prompt: Give me a summary of the rivalry between TCTTS and Cliff.Booth on Texags

Based on past discussions regarding the dynamic between TCTTS and Cliff.Booth on the TexAgs Entertainment board, the rivalry stands out as a classic clash of posting philosophies and personalities within the forum.
Here is a summary of the key elements that define their rivalry:
1. The Clash of Styles
The friction between the two posters stems primarily from how they approach media and forum engagement:

• TCTTS (The Institutional Curator): TCTTS typically operates as a structured, institutional presence on the board. He frequently creates official threads, tracks upcoming releases, and curates media news, positioning himself as an authority on entertainment topics.
• Cliff.Booth (The Cynical Contrarian): Cliff.Booth adopts a more cynical, contrarian approach. He regularly challenges mainstream consensus, deconstructs overly optimistic hype, and targets the structured, authoritative tone that TCTTS maintains.

2. Core Points of Friction

• The Hype Machine: A frequent source of tension is the reception of movie trailers, casting news, and box office predictions. When TCTTS attempts to anchor a thread with detailed analysis or positive anticipation, Cliff.Booth often injects sharp skepticism, leading to extended, back-and-forth debates.
• The "Tale of the Tape": The rivalry reached a point of high visibility following specific board rumors and escalating arguments, prompting comparisons of their overall post counts, active hours, and engagement percentages to see who dominates the board's discourse.
• Forum Dynamics: The conflict rarely stays isolated. Because TCTTS is a prominent figure on the Entertainment board who frequently draws negative interactions from a specific subset of posters, Cliff.Booth's contrarian posts often serve as a lightning rod, drawing other users into the fray to pick sides.

In short, it is a persistent ideological battle between an organized forum cornerstone who values structured enthusiasm and a sharp-witted skeptic who thrives on puncturing that enthusiasm.

It isn't about post count, Kerfeld.

It's about these moments.

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Wait, a bunch of similar-minded dudes on a heavily conservative message board favored his post over mine? You don't say!

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This "the evil conservatives are out to get me" business seems to be blocking you from doing even an ounce of self-reflection. Sometimes it's ok to respectfully disagree on topics and walk away. But you seem completely incapable of doing so, and while prolonging these threads, you constantly throw in buckets full of condescension and talking down to other posters. Yet you somehow don't see it. Most of the time, it starts with someone being critical of a movie or Hollywood and nothing to do with you at all, but you jump in talking down to them and making it personal. That's what gets you constantly ratio'd. It's not the evil conservatives. Many times it is just being an ******* that has to get the last word at all costs.