It took 8 minutes from the penalty call to the retake. How'd the ref not add on anymore extra time. That was absurd

Hand Of God said:

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Yes, if they have a substitution remaining. Limit is 3.

If they had used them all up a field player would have to step in at GK.

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Ok...i thought they had to go with the players on the field at the end of the extra time.

This yellow card idiocy has to stop

gambochaman said:

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This yellow card idiocy has to stop

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The knockout stage has the potential to be a real schlitzshow. A game going to PKs with World Cup advancement on the line will assuredly see both keepers red carded. Then you could see 20+ PKs until someone misses or the poor field player standing in as keeper gets really lucky.

Thailand still has a chance to reach the knock out round.

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It took 8 minutes from the penalty call to the retake. How'd the ref not add on anymore extra time. That was absurd

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That was the biggest issue of the whole ending. Scotland screwed up. They deserved to lose the points. But, the ref took ages to go to the VAR. then spent ages instructing the players for some unknown reason and then a Pk retake which didn't occur until the 94th minute. 4 minutes added to the 90th and ends at the 96th. So 8 minutes wasted by the ref and that doesn't include any other stoppages in the half.

DuncanField91 said:

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gambochaman said:

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This yellow card idiocy has to stop

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The knockout stage has the potential to be a real schlitzshow. A game going to PKs with World Cup advancement on the line will assuredly see both keepers red carded. Then you could see 20+ PKs until someone misses or the poor field player standing in as keeper gets really lucky.

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i for one want to see this happen just so they an immediately change this stupid rule

pk shootout...each pk takes 5 minutes to review, 6 players red carded for leaving the line early, takes two hours to complete the shootout...total carnage

At some point, people will realize what a terrible addition replay/var/live reviews is to sport.

Espn just put out a really good article about it.

who?mikejones said:

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At some point, people will realize what a terrible addition replay/var/live reviews is to sport.

Espn just put out a really good article about it.

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VAR in the Womens World Cup has been really bad. When implemented correctly it has been a positive change.

When will we see the round of 16 bracket?

After the last four group matches are completed today.

OK. Let the PK, Card and Retake Cup begin! 4 games today. I'm setting the O/U on the number of complete cluster ****s to be 2.5

gimme the over

Hand Of God said:

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After the last four group matches are completed today.

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Don't really care about today's games just want to see the bracket.

The tournament starts for real this weekend. I'll probably watch frances game if we are on a collision course with them.

Well there's one. That's not a PK.

VAR bailed out the CR in CAN-NED. She calls a PK on what is nothing. They bail her out and she saves face by calling something outside the area. It wasn't a foul. But at least it wasnt a PK. I'll count that as a good fix.

AustinScubaAg said:

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who?mikejones said:

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At some point, people will realize what a terrible addition replay/var/live reviews is to sport.

Espn just put out a really good article about it.

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VAR in the Womens World Cup has been really bad. When implemented correctly it has been a positive change.

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I have doubts on anything being implemented correctly. No sport has done it thus far.

who?mikejones said:

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At some point, people will realize what a terrible addition replay/var/live reviews is to sport.

Espn just put out a really good article about it.

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That isn't going to happen. VAR haters will try and act like all VAR usages are this bad, when in fact VAR has come up huge in many instances and been a big net positive overall. Take the Champions League 2nd leg of Tottenham - City. VAR was used for two huge calls, got them right, and didn't take *that* long (one took very little time because the VAR team makes offside calls without involving the center ref).

There's an article out this morning saying that the Premier League, which introduces VAR this Fall, won't be using it to keep goalkeepers on their lines. So this whole objection to VAR has already been solved, at least for competitions who care to fix things / iterate to the best usage set possible.

VAR is in its infancy. We are learning when it's good (reviewing goals - wish we'd had it for CONCACAF WC Qualifying for 2018, because the US Men would have gone to the World Cup if we had) and when it's bad (very few tangible examples so far, but this one with goalkeepers during PKs seems to be leading the pack).

I will also point out that VAR has been in use for a few years now and this summer is the first time we've been seeing goalkeepers called for this. That shows that VAR usage has varied, can be changed, and mostly wasn't anywhere near this obnoxious until they decided to apply it to this particular rule. Take that usage out and we're back to a world where most people don't find it objectionable.

I've thought VAR has been pretty decent overall until this Women's World Cup. Its comes down to a combination of rule interpretation updates and the high profile nature of the tournament. If this was happening in the Gold Cup not one (especially American media) would even notice.

Agreed. It wasn't until this World Cup that it has become an issue. It takes forever, but I guess that's typical since women can't make up their damn minds

wangus12 said:

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Agreed. It wasn't until this World Cup that it has become an issue. It takes forever, but I guess that's typical since women can't make up their damn minds

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Well I think partof the problem is FIFA's mandate to use only female officials. Most female officials do not get enough top tier games due to the limited amount of top tier leagues for women. This is exacerbated by limiting the number of officials per federation (one R and two AR max per federation).

Goal for the Dutch

Sick goal for the Canadians to equalize.

USA R16 paths: win the group and play Spain, finish runner-up and play Canada

Cameroon wins in the 95th minute to eliminate argentina

So cameroon is in
Last spot is currently nigeria
Chile could tKe it if they win by 3 or more goals

Chile scores on a ricochet off the post and then goalie. Need 2 more to advance.

2-0 Chile! Just need one more.

Chile missed a PK and couldn't get that 3rd goal.

bracket is set

could be quite the road for our ladies to hoist the trophy again

spain, then france/brazil, then england/norway/aussie (sorry camerooon)

then possibly germany in the final

There is no easy path.

2 teams can beat USA - France and Germany.

Level of play has gotten much better. Japan England was a very good match.

USA is easily the most dangerous team offensively. They have so many weapons. Imo, Rapinoe should sit. There's many better options - I'd start Press instead of her.

Yeah Rapinoe was a beast a few years back, but she's a liability now, compared to Press And the younger faster versions of her.

Lloyd has lost a step too but she's a goal scorer. Gotta find a spot for her instead of Rap.

And Holy crap, Mewis is freaking awesome. The ball she played into Morgan was beautiful. Morgan mis-played it on the first touch or it would have been a great 1 v 1 chance.

France should be worried.

Well FIFA just blinked. They have officially applied to IFAB (international rules group) and have received a waiver to stop giving GKs who come off their line a yellow card. This will only apply to KFTPM and it only applies in the WWC. So if the come off for a penalty kick they still get carded.

At least the train wreck of losing a GK in KFTPM was averted. They must have realized it was a real possibility.

Seriously is using that abbreviation any easier than just writing 'penalties' or PKs? Ref language has to be pretty exacting I guess