FIFA Women's World Cup

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for once I am going to disagree with Ray...

gtfo with that garbage
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That was the worst advert for women's football that I've ever seen. As I lover of football, I didn't enjoy a single minute of that.
The mismatch was apparent from minute 1. That's not the fault of the US players or coaches, its the fault of the World Cup and the women's game globally.

This tournament has reinforce my opinion that there's a Top 5-6 teams and everyone else. As many headlines as the USWNT gets here in the states the rest of the world just doesnt have the same level of quality or care for the women's game.

If this game would have occurred in a non-WC setting no one would have even blinked an eye.
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But I'm also a believer that this is why expanding the field is actually good. Keeping at 16 and waiting until another 8 nations are competitive wouldn't work. Federations need to see the disparity on the pitch and decide if they're willing to invest to close the gap or not.
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littlebitofhifi said:

But I'm also a believer that this is why expanding the field is actually good. Keeping at 16 and waiting until another 8 nations are competitive wouldn't work. Federations need to see the disparity on the pitch and decide if they're willing to invest to close the gap or not.
Agree. This is the same thought process used in Euro qualifying on the mens side. Russia beat San Marino 9-0 the other day.
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USA basketball teams have been running up 50+ point margins and dunking on far inferior opponents in the Olympics since 1992 and nobody has batted an eye. Now the USWNT does it on the same stage and people suddenly have a problem? GTFOH.
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Hand Of God said:

USA basketball teams have been running up 50+ point margins and dunking on far inferior opponents in the Olympics since 1992 and nobody has batted an eye. Now the USWNT does it on the same stage and people suddenly have a problem? GTFOH.


One of my old coaches believed that if you're good enough to beat a team by 13 goals then you do it. You do nobody favors by half assing things and it's also disrespectful.

I've been on the losing end of games where teams started playing 2 touch or had to string along 10 passes before scoring and it's demoralizing. More demoralizing than losing 13-0.
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Zero issues with scoring as many goals as possible in a tournament group stage with GD being used as a tie-breaker. Many issues with mass celebrations after every goal on the way to 13-0. This seems fairly logical to me but is apparently a very hot take right now, especially if you're a male.

ETA: Biggest thing bugging me since the game ended is the multitude of people with little to no soccer knowledge comparing this to basketball, football, etc. Running up the score in those games is not comparable to soccer IMO. It is very simple for a dominate team to maintain possession for extended periods without pressing for goals. Again, I have zero issues with us running it up in this context but trying to make that comparison just doesn't make sense to me.
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There are bigger things in a player's career than scoring a World Cup goal, right?

(Spoiler: Hell no there is not.)
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Anyone watching the Korea/Nigeria game? Korea is playing scared and the Nigerians are clearly more athletic than them.

1-0 Nigeria in the early portion of the 2nd half.
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Precisely.

"Please spend twenty years training to represent your country at the highest level of the sport but when you score please don't act too excited so not to hurt anyone's feelings."
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No problem with the goals scored. But the celebrations got ridiculous. Especially rapinoe. But being a moron is her schtick and credit to her she kept at it.
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"Please spend twenty years training to represent your country at the highest level of the sport but when you score please don't act too excited so not to hurt anyone's feelings."

Exactly. Pugh scored at 84'. This was her first World Cup. The Twitter critics would expect her not to celebrate because of feelings. What about her feelings? Her moment to shine? She's probably been dreaming about that since she was a little girl. The people commenting are a bunch of losers who have never played sports at a high level. There is nothing wrong with those celebrations. The only goal I'd say was probably unnecessary was Lloyd's in extra time.
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Furlock Bones said:

No problem with the goals scored. But the celebrations got ridiculous. Especially rapinoe. But being a moron is her schtick and credit to her she kept at it.
Yeah her's was really the only one I saw fault with. She has scored in the WC before and just scored the 9th or 10th in a route. Then she had a multi-part celebration that was a little ridiculous.
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BlueAg2003 said:

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"Please spend twenty years training to represent your country at the highest level of the sport but when you score please don't act too excited so not to hurt anyone's feelings."

Exactly. Pugh scored at 84'. This was her first World Cup. The Twitter critics would expect her not to celebrate because of feelings. What about her feelings? Her moment to shine? She's probably been dreaming about that since she was a little girl. The people commenting are a bunch of losers who have never played sports at a high level. There is nothing wrong with those celebrations. The only goal I'd say was probably unnecessary was Lloyd's in extra time.
In spite of it being 12-0, I was actually hoping Carli would score to tie the record for most consecutive WWC games scoring a goal (5).
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I enjoyed reading over these statistics... and those that were affected by yesterday's game were updated within minutes of the game's end...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup_records_and_statistics
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Furlock Bones said:

No problem with the goals scored. But the celebrations got ridiculous. Especially rapinoe. But being a moron is her schtick and credit to her she kept at it.
I guess the pink hair wasn't enough to grab attention, she needed to make sure all eyes were on her after scoring, regardless of game situation. Classless.
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wangus12 said:

Furlock Bones said:

No problem with the goals scored. But the celebrations got ridiculous. Especially rapinoe. But being a moron is her schtick and credit to her she kept at it.
Yeah her's was really the only one I saw fault with. She has scored in the WC before and just scored the 9th or 10th in a route. Then she had a multi-part celebration that was a little ridiculous.
It's also her last WC (she's 33) so I'll give her a bit of slack.
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Not as impressed with France's 4-0 opening win over South Korea now that Nigeria beat them 2-0.

Really looking forward to France vs Norway later today.
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I guess the pink hair wasn't enough to grab attention

Oh, come on. You're going to call her an attention wh0re because of pink hair? That's weak.
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I guess the pink hair wasn't enough to grab attention

Oh, come on. You're going to call her an attention wh0re because of pink hair? That's weak.


Yea. That's literally bottom of the list for her attention Whooring antics.
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The people commenting are a bunch of losers who have never played sports at a high level.
Seems the opposite to me. The "losers" tend to be the ones with little understanding of the game or setting and fall more on the side of "Thailand should just stop them", "Every player wants to score", "Imagine if you scored a goal" etc. Just my opinion from the general reactions across social media and things like that.

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Luckily for them, the FC Dallas U15s showed a little more restraint than they did.
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Hand Of God
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Simple solution for all of the grief this seems to have caused some of you...don't watch.

If you don't like Rapinoe's pink hair or political stances...don't watch.

If you think U15 boys beating these women discredits their talent...don't watch.

If you think they score too many goals or celebrate too much afterward...don't watch.

So many people here with strong opinions about individual players and a team they pretend to care so little about.
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Hand Of God said:

Simple solution for all of the grief this seems to have caused some of you...don't watch.

If you don't like Rapinoe's pink hair or political stances...don't watch.

If you think U15 boys beating these women discredits their talent...don't watch.

If you think they score too many goals or celebrate too much afterward...don't watch.

So many people here with strong opinions about individual players and a team they pretend to care so little about.
I just knew someone would show up and bash rapinoe for her politics. Some people just can't separate politics from the game.
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Really interested to see this Germany / Spain match up with Marozsan out. I think Germany's going to want to make a statement after only beating China 1-0, but curious how that plays out without their star.
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Hand Of God said:

If you think U15 boys beating these women discredits their talent...don't watch.
I think the comparison was about the score-line not about discrediting the talents of WMNT.
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Furlock Bones
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Hand Of God said:

Simple solution for all of the grief this seems to have caused some of you...don't watch.

If you don't like Rapinoe's pink hair or political stances...don't watch.

If you think U15 boys beating these women discredits their talent...don't watch.

If you think they score too many goals or celebrate too much afterward...don't watch.

So many people here with strong opinions about individual players and a team they pretend to care so little about.


You just hit the nail on the head. What the US did with their celebrations yesterday turned off the causal fan. Make no mistake that doesn't help grow the game.
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Alright settle down, none of this is any reason to stop watching and supporting the USWNT. It's a discussion after the most lopsided and record-setting game in WC history. Some people took issue with the theatrics and some didn't.

If people want to turn it into a boys vs. girls, Rapinoe vs. USA debate then I'm sure this thread will explode with everything but opinions on the actual match yesterday.
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Furlock Bones said:

Hand Of God said:

Simple solution for all of the grief this seems to have caused some of you...don't watch.

If you don't like Rapinoe's pink hair or political stances...don't watch.

If you think U15 boys beating these women discredits their talent...don't watch.

If you think they score too many goals or celebrate too much afterward...don't watch.

So many people here with strong opinions about individual players and a team they pretend to care so little about.


You just hit the nail on the head. What the US did with their celebrations yesterday turned off the causal fan. Make no mistake that doesn't help grow the game.
hold up...watching your team put on a clinic and demolish an inferior opponent like they should turns you off from watching said team?



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you know what would have turned off the casual fan? if morgan and the goalie had play pass the ball keep away for the last 30 minutes because *feelings*

I have many casual fans on facebook who were beyond excited to watch the thrashing and cant wait to watch these ladies play again

seriously...gtfo here...you go to the world cup, you score, you celebrate...i dont care if its the 1st goal or the 27th goal in a game....period full stop.
dont care how you celebrate. and if you say you wouldnt do it, then you are lying
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Not surprised you are completely missing the point.
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Another factor is that the World Cup and the olympics are these girls only chance to play in front of millions and millions of people, so of course these players are eager to do their absolute best. Lots of people don't follow women's soccer except for those 2 events.
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Furlock Bones said:

Not surprised you are completely missing the point.


The point is, there was ZERO wrong with anything the US women did yesterday
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Well then Congrats on being 100% dead ass wrong.
BlueAg2003
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Well then Congrats on being 100% dead ass wrong.

Are you the arbiter of public opinions now?
 
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