t-rex said:

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I'm with you. I'm good with Buzz but now isn't time for an extension. For sure not, 3 years left on his deal.

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You're really going out on a limb there on the extension.. LMAO as he brings in recruiting classes ranking barely in the Top35.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Texas A&M’s Buzz Williams trying to get involved in Maryland if/when it opens, source told @TheFieldOf68.

Williams and his camp also tried to make a push for Xavier opening.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) March 28, 2025

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At what point do you ask Buzz to bring the jet back and recruit from CS instead of flying across the country talking to recruits on A&M's dime but possibly not for A&M?

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You don't, because there's the very distinct possibility he stays here. And whoever we'd hire will bring over his own guys also.

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So you are OK spending our money on a guy possibly recruiting for another school?
He can recruit from College Station for a few weeks.

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Yes because he's not a guarantee to Maryland and there aren't many other options out there for him at this point so even though he wants to leave, he might not be able to. In that world I'd much rather have him recruiting for A&M until it becomes certain one way or another.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Ag1188 said:

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BraxtonW said:

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85AustinAg said:

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What's the story with Mcasland from Tech? A possibility?

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Tech is a way better job for basketball compared to us

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how? Why? They just make better hires.

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Better alumni and student support. Helps that they're so isolated up there in Lubbock.

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Our arena gets packed when we're good. We're a super boring offense under Buzz with players who can't shoot. Stop blaming anyone beyond Coach. Our facility limitations is an excuse for not Top10 classes. Zero excuse for not Top20 classes - let alone Top 30.

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Do you just go looking for arguments all day? I'm not blaming anyone for anything. You just didn't like my factually correct answer. They have long had better alumni and student support.

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I just think you're full of sh*t. The alumni supports it at Tech, because they put out a product that could win a championship. They literally almost won a title a few years ago and it wasn't because of money.

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Topher17 said:

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85AustinAg said:

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Why no? Commitment to basketball? Salary? Facilities? All the above?

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Tech supports basketball better in almost every way compared to us.

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It's amazing to me how many of our fans don't understand that. Insert almost anybody they bring up.

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Yep

Most of our fans think of us in terms of football when it comes to expectations and our hiring power in hoops

But that's not the case

We are probably bottom half of the sec in terms of how much we support and invest in hoops

AggieCrew44 said:

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MarcAg said:

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Texas A&M’s Buzz Williams trying to get involved in Maryland if/when it opens, source told @TheFieldOf68.

Williams and his camp also tried to make a push for Xavier opening.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) March 28, 2025

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we are officially going to be terrible next season

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Not if we replace Buzz with anyone, particularly someone good who would bring recruiting excitement/momentum if it's someone NBA players want to play for.

Proposition Joe said:

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Beard wouldn't really make any sense. All we would be is another insulator between him the optics of his next job.

If Ole Miss is willing to hire him, then A&M is willing to hire him, then there's enough "well, they did it!" for a blue blood to poach him from us within a few years.

I've never been against going after a coach that *might* go to a better destination if he has success, but we absolutely know it would be the case with Beard.

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Whats to stop any blue blood from doing that, especially if that coach has any success here.

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PJYoung said:

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So where is our list of potential coaches?

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Beard is the only correct answer

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Of course you'd want to hire a domestic abuser. Absolutely not

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Charges were dropped. He's a winner, I want a winner.

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Ton of winning coaches who aren't abusers. He's a dck too.

When comparing contract $$, my guess is more ADs are using more performance based
contracts than just paying such a huge salary for the basic job. Likely a factor in making a move.
You would think cost of living and state incomes taxes also would be factors.

I would have to be really be unhappy to drag my family out of my home state, even for same or a few more $$....
especially at 4.4 million per year with 3 years left.

Maybe if I did not have enough confidence to rebuild a program, I would move. I figure many of the coaching openings are rebuilds or would not be open. Maybe some have left the cupboard not completely empty. But with NIL and Portal, a good coach should be able to restock quickly unless low on resources.

cs69ag said:

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Buzz does not use agents
Buzz going to get 4.4 milsky elsewhere?
Will he like games in 3 time zones?
Going to drag his family away from Texas again?
Does Maryland have more resources that TAMU?
NIL $$
Is Maryland a rebuild too??

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Buzz is just wanting to reset his own shot-clock on his career. He'd be fired here after next season beyond a doubt which would make him feel tarnished.

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Bob, if Buzz were to actually take the Maryland job, who is on your short list of coaches to hire? Is the OU coach one of them?

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No, Moser wouldn't be on my list.

The problem with creating a list though is I have absolutely no clue what the back end financials look like.

There's a lot of things to consider. The cost of the coach themselves, the cost of their staff, how much does the basketball program actually make and how much of a difference do ticket sales and season tickets make in that number. Like is 95% of the revenue from TV rights or whatever so it doesn't matter if we're 1st or 16th in the SEC or does a full arena make a huge difference on the bottom line?

Those are all data points you'd need to really put a list together to know what sort of level we'd be looking at for a coach.

A&M should be able to find a better coach if he leaves.

Will A&M actually hire a better coach is the question.

He took a team that took years to build and got bounced in the first weekend, I think college basketball has gotten better and coaches that don't coach offense well now have a hard ceiling.

Proposition Joe said:

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Why not instead of paying a meh coach $5MM/year and then bemoan that we can only afford average talent... we pay talent $4MM/year and then see what an average coach can do with it?

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Even semi-expensive players don't want to play for a coach known for NOT regularly getting players to the NBA.

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Proposition Joe said:

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Beard wouldn't really make any sense. All we would be is another insulator between him the optics of his next job.

If Ole Miss is willing to hire him, then A&M is willing to hire him, then there's enough "well, they did it!" for a blue blood to poach him from us within a few years.

I've never been against going after a coach that *might* go to a better destination if he has success, but we absolutely know it would be the case with Beard.

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Whats to stop any blue blood from doing that, especially if that coach has any success here.

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At least with some coaches there's a chance they become happy where they are at as long as they are given the resources. Drew never left Baylor. There's a decent chance Grant McClasland doesn't leave Tech if/when blue bloods call.

If Beard goes from Tech -> Texas -> Ole Miss -> Texas A&M there's very little chance he's going to find his forever coaching home in CS... So the baggage probably isn't worth it.

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Proposition Joe said:

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Why not instead of paying a meh coach $5MM/year and then bemoan that we can only afford average talent... we pay talent $4MM/year and then see what an average coach can do with it?

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See Texas A&M Baseball for an example of this.

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Our talent on the mound (outside the starters) is pretty bad. And our talent at batting is beyond thin. Not sure we're paying that much outside our small collection of stars. So paying for players is still important, but need a coach they want to play for.

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PJYoung said:

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Topher17 said:

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85AustinAg said:

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Why no? Commitment to basketball? Salary? Facilities? All the above?

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Tech supports basketball better in almost every way compared to us.

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It's amazing to me how many of our fans don't understand that. Insert almost anybody they bring up.

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Yep

Most of our fans think of us in terms of football when it comes to expectations and our hiring power in hoops

But that's not the case

We are probably bottom half of the sec in terms of how much we support and invest in hoops

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What would/will be 2025's version of "Who's the Jimbo of basketball, can we money whip (insert name)" that got asked a hundred times in 2019?

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Proposition Joe said:

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Why not instead of paying a meh coach $5MM/year and then bemoan that we can only afford average talent... we pay talent $4MM/year and then see what an average coach can do with it?

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Even semi-expensive players don't want to play for a coach known for NOT regularly getting players to the NBA.

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Eh, I don't think that's as big a factor as many think. Outside of a handful of coaches, there's not a lot of guys out there that high school kids "know they are going to take them to the next level". The Sweet 16 is littered with coaches that don't have a long NBA-product resume.

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Wonder why blue blood KU Turgeon did not work at Maryland?
Must have complained about the attendance when he was losing??

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I live in MD and, yeah, he complained a lot. Eventually, the fanbase told him to f off. Kind of like what Willard is doing now. Buzz will do well there because he doesn't generally complain. Just #getbetter.

Of note, I lived in Kentucky when Gillespie went to Kentucky. Lived in Maryland when Turgeon went to Maryland. And i still live in Maryland..

Proposition Joe said:

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Ag1188 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Why not instead of paying a meh coach $5MM/year and then bemoan that we can only afford average talent... we pay talent $4MM/year and then see what an average coach can do with it?

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Even semi-expensive players don't want to play for a coach known for NOT regularly getting players to the NBA.

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Eh, I don't think that's as big a factor as many think. Outside of a handful of coaches, there's not a lot of guys out there that high school kids "know they are going to take them to the next level". The Sweet 16 is littered with coaches that don't have a long NBA-product resume.

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Ya you have no clue, good players prefer good coaches.

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BraxtonW said:

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85AustinAg said:

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What's the story with Mcasland from Tech? A possibility?

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Tech is a way better job for basketball compared to us

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how? Why? They just make better hires.

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85AustinAg said:

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Why no? Commitment to basketball? Salary? Facilities? All the above?

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Yep, he's at a much better job.
I feel like people haven't realized that tech is near the upper echelon jobs in college hoops now.

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Tech is only better because they hired Beard and then this guy, who are good coaches who can recruit.

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Yes they have better coaches, they also have more money, more doners, better facilities.

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LouisvilleAg said:

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cs69ag said:

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Wonder why blue blood KU Turgeon did not work at Maryland?
Must have complained about the attendance when he was losing??

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I live in MD and, yeah, he complained a lot. Eventually, the fanbase told him to f off. Kind of like what Willard is doing now. Buzz will do well there because he doesn't generally complain. Just #getbetter.

Of note, I lived in Kentucky when Gillespie went to Kentucky. Lived in Maryland when Turgeon went to Maryland. And i still live in Maryland..

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Buzz cries about tweets all the time, not sure where you got that he didn't complain.

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He doesn't complain about facilities or attendance to the public.

I'm not sure I completely agree with this but it's so unlikely that we hire him that it's not worth going into.

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cs69ag said:

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Buzz does not use agents
Buzz going to get 4.4 milsky elsewhere?
Will he like games in 3 time zones?
Going to drag his family away from Texas again?
Does Maryland have more resources that TAMU?
NIL $$
Is Maryland a rebuild too??

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Buzz is just wanting to reset his own shot-clock on his career. He'd be fired here after next season beyond a doubt which would make him feel tarnished.

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WHAT?

Who on this thread (which appears to be populated by more posters who wish Buzz would leave than those, like me, who want him to stay) believes this?

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Proposition Joe said:

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Ag1188 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Why not instead of paying a meh coach $5MM/year and then bemoan that we can only afford average talent... we pay talent $4MM/year and then see what an average coach can do with it?

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Even semi-expensive players don't want to play for a coach known for NOT regularly getting players to the NBA.

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Eh, I don't think that's as big a factor as many think. Outside of a handful of coaches, there's not a lot of guys out there that high school kids "know they are going to take them to the next level". The Sweet 16 is littered with coaches that don't have a long NBA-product resume.

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Ya you have no clue, good players prefer good coaches.

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No one is saying it's not a preference.

Guess what, good players prefer more money too.

And more TV exposure.

And a slew of other things. But they don't all end up playing for Mike Izzo and other coaching mensas. Todd Golden didn't woo his roster with his former player resume.

Dusty May was the head coach for zero future NBA players at Florida Atlantic. Michigan's roster still filled out quite nicely.

If Buzz stays, he's still got a contract that runs out in 2028 and and therefore a need to get his extension or find a new job. So, IMO, if he's stuck here, he oughta be motivated.

Has anyone questioned his motivation up to now?

I would argue that he nailed it regarding last year's Transfer Portal in filling our needs - leading to a good season for the Aggies.

I would really like to give him a chance to do even better this year in rounding up the additional players we will need to compete next year.

But... I admit that all the smoke about Maryland and Buzz's interest, if true, is concerning to me.

This is what I'm here for. A spite run. He fills out the roster with great players, we make a run to the final four, and everyone involved hates everyone else involved the entire time. Buzz and Trev have to show up to events hyping each other up. It would be great.

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LouisvilleAg said:

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cs69ag said:

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Wonder why blue blood KU Turgeon did not work at Maryland?
Must have complained about the attendance when he was losing??

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I live in MD and, yeah, he complained a lot. Eventually, the fanbase told him to f off. Kind of like what Willard is doing now. Buzz will do well there because he doesn't generally complain. Just #getbetter.

Of note, I lived in Kentucky when Gillespie went to Kentucky. Lived in Maryland when Turgeon went to Maryland. And i still live in Maryland..

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Buzz cries about tweets all the time, not sure where you got that he didn't complain.

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He doesn't complain about facilities or attendance to the public.

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He does it in a subtle way. Like talking about how many Tech fans showed up in Forth Worth for the game and being taken aback by the difference in the crowd. Talked about how many Purdue fans traveled up the road to Indianapolis. I took those to be more comments about A&M fans not going to the DFW and Houston games when we have them. And for the record, those are valid comments. Why don't our fans show for those games

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Why would anybody who thinks "only the tournament matters" show up to random regular season games?

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

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Ag1188 said:

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cs69ag said:

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Buzz does not use agents
Buzz going to get 4.4 milsky elsewhere?
Will he like games in 3 time zones?
Going to drag his family away from Texas again?
Does Maryland have more resources that TAMU?
NIL $$
Is Maryland a rebuild too??

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Buzz is just wanting to reset his own shot-clock on his career. He'd be fired here after next season beyond a doubt which would make him feel tarnished.

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WHAT?

Who on this thread (which appears to be populated by more posters who wish Buzz would leave than those, like me, who want him to stay) believes this?

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From a web article:
Willard (Maryland HC) addressed his future after the game, leaving a lot to interpret as he didn't provide a specific answer. Basketball analyst Rob Dauster reacted to those comments, bringing up Williams as an option that Maryland can consider.

"Buzz is trying to get out of Texas A&M…Buzz has tried to get his name out for every job that's come open, and now he's doing it with Maryland…He's also not the easiest coach to work with," Dauster said.




I have no idea whether there's any truth to this guy's statements, but that seems like a big reach for anybody in mainstream media to just be making up stuff that's this direct, and of this kind of magnitude.

I mean, what are we thinking the odds of keeping buzz are now? 10%?

If the Goodman tweet is legit, and he's rarely not, he's gone…and I don't think I'd want a coach asking to get out anyways…even if it means a painful reset.

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I mean, what are we thinking the odds of keeping buzz are now? 10%?

If the Goodman tweet is legit, and he's rarely not, he's gone…and I don't think I'd want a coach asking to get out anyways…even if it means a painful reset.

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Maryland has to want him too though. Will they? I think so, but I'm not certain of it.

I don't really like Goodman or Dauster all that much, but they're very plugged in. This wouldn't be just made up by them.