aggiez03 said:

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bobinator said:

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You say no coach has attempted but there have been some interesting ideas with various levels of success.

BCG did the midnight madness thing at Northgate. I thought that was a cool idea. We also did a midnight madness event at Kyle Field with a court on the field a couple of times, I didn't think that was terribly well executed but it was a good idea. And then with Turge we had the event with Soulja Boy at Reed Arena which was an interesting idea too.

There has been SOME efforts to come up with some fun ideas to engage fans, we just need more of them.

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True, True, and True...

Forgot about the Soulja boy Maroon Madness :<)

But what has that been 10+ years since it last happened?

Just looked it up... Soulja Boy came in 2007, so my fish would have been 1 years old when that happened.

Buzz doesn't have time for it, so nothing will change under his watch.

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No, he does not, nor shoulod he. That's what the marketing dept does. Jeez, This isn't D-3

Thanks for all the feedback on Turge


Sorry to derail, just curious about parallels

The Terp basketball family has endured a lot these past days. For the sake of our program, I speak for so many of my brothers who have reached out to me in anguish over what has become of our program.
It is time to speak… pic.twitter.com/h4Bye8rVxZ

— Len Elmore (@LenElmore) March 31, 2025

Len chimes in and is as wrong on this as he is on TV.

He makes a case as if UMD has been a revolving door. They gave Turge 10 seasons and Willard was there for 3 before he left.

Faulty logic and even worse conclusion.

Bunk Moreland said:

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The Terp basketball family has endured a lot these past days. For the sake of our program, I speak for so many of my brothers who have reached out to me in anguish over what has become of our program.
It is time to speak… pic.twitter.com/h4Bye8rVxZ

— Len Elmore (@LenElmore) March 31, 2025

Len chimes in and is as wrong on this as he is on TV.

He makes a case as if UMD has been a revolving door. They gave Turge 10 seasons and Willard was there for 3 before he left.

Faulty logic and even worse conclusion.

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I agree with his take. Let's hire Deandre Jordan

Bunk Moreland said:

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The Terp basketball family has endured a lot these past days. For the sake of our program, I speak for so many of my brothers who have reached out to me in anguish over what has become of our program.
It is time to speak… pic.twitter.com/h4Bye8rVxZ

— Len Elmore (@LenElmore) March 31, 2025

Len chimes in and is as wrong on this as he is on TV.

He makes a case as if UMD has been a revolving door. They gave Turge 10 seasons and Willard was there for 3 before he left.

Faulty logic and even worse conclusion.

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Are you wanting this job Len. There's not a very full bucket from you to choose from given your criteria. This was just silly.

Mikesyracuse1

zgolfz85 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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The Terp basketball family has endured a lot these past days. For the sake of our program, I speak for so many of my brothers who have reached out to me in anguish over what has become of our program.
It is time to speak… pic.twitter.com/h4Bye8rVxZ

— Len Elmore (@LenElmore) March 31, 2025

Len chimes in and is as wrong on this as he is on TV.

He makes a case as if UMD has been a revolving door. They gave Turge 10 seasons and Willard was there for 3 before he left.

Faulty logic and even worse conclusion.

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I agree with his take. Let's hire Deandre Jordan

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Joe Jones or GTFO

The old 10 year revolving door of a single outsider. He just kept walking through the door like a merry go round.

Pichael Thompson said:

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Off topic question but I don't remember the specifics


Was turgeon a similar situation when he left?


I remember hearing rumors at the time that he wanted out & we wanted him out....



But was he publicly looking for a new jobs while we sat around waiting for him to leave?

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Turgeon had actually turned down jobs, notably after his last season from NC State, and stayed here through that years coaching carousel. The Maryland job opened late and Turgeon seemed to consider it before taking it, talked anout seeking advice from Larry Brown. The same Larry Brown who shortly after decided to take another job in state at SMU.

TxAg76 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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The Terp basketball family has endured a lot these past days. For the sake of our program, I speak for so many of my brothers who have reached out to me in anguish over what has become of our program.
It is time to speak… pic.twitter.com/h4Bye8rVxZ

— Len Elmore (@LenElmore) March 31, 2025

Len chimes in and is as wrong on this as he is on TV.

He makes a case as if UMD has been a revolving door. They gave Turge 10 seasons and Willard was there for 3 before he left.

Faulty logic and even worse conclusion.

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I agree with his take. Let's hire Deandre Jordan

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Joe Jones or GTFO

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Brian Barone ??

Just kidding, I would take Joe Jones on the staff, maybe not head coach yet....

pic.twitter.com/fZBk8xVOtI

— catoraño (@catorano) April 1, 2025

Just our luck

theloneranger said:

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— catoraño (@catorano) April 1, 2025

Just our luck

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Welcome back, Buzz!

Now let's get to work.

The only one who believes and wants Buzz Williams at Maryland is Buzz Williams

Who cares if Buzz doesn't like the job. The only way he gets out is a better season. Let him work hard to get there. And gives the AD more time to get next got lined up.

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90% of the coaches in the country are trying to get a better job every year

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Yeah but they're not floating their names to reporters before jobs are even open. That was the only really bizarre thing here. "If Maryland opens, Buzz wants to be involved" is a strange report.

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Buzz returning is the best option for us to not be atrocious next season. He needs to continue to attack the portal

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agreed, but at some point, it has to get ugly either way. the level of ugly all depends on timing. just a serious lose/lose right now no matter what.

This 247 Maryland podcast talked about Maryland's candidates. The podcast is overall a bit slow but they had some small nuggets about the search.

• Buzz already interviewed with Maryland
• The search is expected to wrap up by Wednesday/Thursday
• The overall take on Buzz is that he has "too much baggage" particularly when it comes to move around every 5-6 years. Also that he does not have any recent major achievement hence "his best days are already behind him".
• The podcast hosts created their own "rubric" to evaluate the candidates (Buzz, Skinn, Collins, Murray). From their perspective, Buzz scored really low in almost every category (rated from 1 to 10): Resume (6), Pace of Play (6), Character (2 because of his time at Marquette), Loyalty (1) , Fan Excitement

They also acknowledge that the situation at Maryland is weird since there is no AD and that a lot of successful coaches will not even take a look. As a result, I think that Buzz's candidacy is still in play and that "hot names" such as Luke Murray (Uccon's top assistant) will not be interested since he might have better jobs one year from now.

If Buzz wanted to move, West Virginia or Virginia were a better fit, but his name was never mentioned.

My guess as a fan is that Buzz still has a shot with Maryland particularly based on the current conditions. He is one of the few "recognized coaches" who might decide to jump into that level of uncertainty.

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/article/ims-radio-after-kevin-willard-embarrassed-himself-and-maryland-who-will-be-the-next-basketball-next-coach-248066376/

I dont know if its that odd. We likely just arent overanalyzing every Jeff Goodman tweet about things happening to other teams

I mean I follow most coaching search stuff pretty closely and the level of "Buzz wants out" stuff was unusual. Though again, I do think we got a fair shake out of the deal because they didn't make it sound like it was because anything is wrong here, just that Buzz likes to move and "isn't the easiest to deal with."

It's definitely unusual for a coach whose seat probably isn't even remotely warm here.

The biggest mistake Buzz made was jumping off Marquette instead of riding out the storm to go to a bottom feeder program. Sure Buzz tuned VT around. But athletic departments look at this as a very untenable situation we're in five or six years this guy will jump to whatever job he can find.

bobinator said:

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How is it lose/lose?

Buzz isn't any worse off and neither are we.

It's probably even a win for us. This is the first time I've ever really thought that maybe Buzz really does live as isolated a life as he says he does. I always thought that was mostly a bit, but if he really thought he'd be a top candidate at either Indiana or Maryland, and he's not, then he's going to have to think about why and make some changes if he wants to be.

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Yep. And I've actually be excited to see what he can do with some new blood in the portal and perhaps some self reflection. I absolutely loved the seniors in this team. Won a bunch of games and were awesome for our school. Wade is an all time great and Andy is probably my favorite player in years. But a "change" may be a good thing for Buzz. He needs to adapt a little

It seems like Buzz wants to return to a bigger stage. But hasn't done what is needed to do this. Buzz Williams used to be a pretty big deal around the game. Buzz isn't anymore. And hasn't been in more than a decade. I agree this should force him to make changes with this rejection.

bobinator said:

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JJxvi said:

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90% of the coaches in the country are trying to get a better job every year

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Yeah but they're not floating their names to reporters before jobs are even open. That was the only really bizarre thing here. "If Maryland opens, Buzz wants to be involved" is a strange report.

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I still don't understand how this isn't some kind of breach of his existing contract with us. Certainly not in a school's best interest for its head coach to be desperately seeking a different job.

You'd have to prove it if you wanted to fire him for cause.

Dimond1968 said:

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It seems like Buzz wants to return to a bigger stage. But hasn't done what is needed to do this. Buzz Williams used to be a pretty big deal around the game. Buzz isn't anymore. And hasn't been in more than a decade. I agree this should force him to make changes with this rejection.

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When was he ever a big deal?

Marquette and Virginia tech aren't exactly powerhouse names.

Marquette has some name recognition but not vtech.

At A&M he's in the best conference in the land and is on a national stage every week

I don't think he gets that even at Maryland

NyAggie said:

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Dimond1968 said:

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It seems like Buzz wants to return to a bigger stage. But hasn't done what is needed to do this. Buzz Williams used to be a pretty big deal around the game. Buzz isn't anymore. And hasn't been in more than a decade. I agree this should force him to make changes with this rejection.

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When was he ever a big deal?

Marquette and Virginia tech aren't exactly powerhouse names.

Marquette has some name recognition but not vtech.

At A&M he's in the best conference in the land and is on a national stage every week

I don't think he gets that even at Maryland

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Back in the old Big East Buzz Williams was a big deal. Marquette was a much bigger job back then.

You had Louisville, a good Georgetown, UConn, Villanova , Jamie Dixon Pitt, West Virginia with Bob Huggins,
Syracuse. That was a loaded league and Buzz Williams had Marquette right near the top.

bobinator said:

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How is it lose/lose?

Buzz isn't any worse off and neither are we.

It's probably even a win for us. This is the first time I've ever really thought that maybe Buzz really does live as isolated a life as he says he does. I always thought that was mostly a bit, but if he really thought he'd be a top candidate at either Indiana or Maryland, and he's not, then he's going to have to think about why and make some changes if he wants to be.

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I just mean lose/lose as it would be better if none of this had surfaced and buzz had made it obvious he was committed to TAMU for the long haul, rather than shopping around. I do agree, there could be some positives that come out of it...but I'm concerned that this unknown and what it will do to our portal and recruiting hopes will largely outweigh those positives

It's not an A&M situation it's a Buzz Williams. This is what he does. I thought at 52 he might've changed.