Buzz to Maryland?

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Nate Oats doing what you should do when it comes down to squashing rumors. From Jeff Goodman:

Alabama head coach Nate Oats has no interest in the vacant Maryland job, source told @thefieldof68.

There's been some recent chatter about Oats and the Terps job.
No truth to it.

https://nitter.space/GoodmanHoops/status/1906711353999425811#m


So this might actually be good news for Buzz since highly touted coaches like Oats are not interested in the job. It is a bad job simply by the fact that there is no AD so you are jumping into a very unknown situation.
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the problem is the trash from the football board has rolled over to this site because the one things Aggies like, is coach bashing and coaching searches

You entire post is the most logical thing posted. Too bad Hop isn't here to argue it
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agtrevino07 said:

Nate Oats doing what you should do when it comes down to squashing rumors. From Jeff Goodman:

Alabama head coach Nate Oats has no interest in the vacant Maryland job, source told @thefieldof68.

There's been some recent chatter about Oats and the Terps job.
No truth to it.

https://nitter.space/GoodmanHoops/status/1906711353999425811#m


So this might actually be good news for Buzz since highly touted coaches like Oats are not interested in the job. It is a bad job simply by the fact that there is no AD so you are jumping into a very unknown situation.
Only way he'd wanna leave is if he had some perverse thing about being top dog at a school that isn't good in football. Now if UNC or KU called, that might be different.

But Nate has one of the best jobs in the country.
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The good thing is you can pick them out by how they reference things like recruiting rankings. Anyone worried about national high school recruiting rankings is already in trouble.
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Buzz motivated to leave because they terminated an assistant over financials, only to seek a job where the prior coach is leaving over a similar lack of financial commitment to his players? Interesting thought process. If you can even call it that.
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to follow up your point. Look at Pearl, i know that thread got bumped, but think about that situation. They could have fired him for some of those years. But he's really likeable, engaged with the fans and i'm sure the boosters. So I gotta think that bought him good will. And now it finally paid off.

Wouldn't the craziest thing ever is Buzz come back and actually change up some and then take us on a run

Maybe Trev has no emotion in this and says come back and we'll make it and move on.

This is the craziest **** i've ever seen. This might top Schloss leaving.
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bobinator said:

The good thing is you can pick them out by how they reference things like recruiting rankings. Anyone worried about national high school recruiting rankings is already in trouble.


You can pick them out because they almost never post here.
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EKUAg said:

Saw this morning that Oats is interested in the Maryland job. Doesn't like the funding model nor the emphasis on football at Bama.
See how this works?
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Impossible buddy, Have you seen Auburn's recruiting rankings? Going back from '24 they've been ranked 22, 74, 16, 79. That's an average of 48! Terrible!

But yeah, you're exactly right. Auburn is the perfect example. Now they got a little lucky and made a Final Four run as a 5 seed in his fifth season to really kick things off. But you get a coach that fires up the fan base, attendance gets better, more money starts flowing in, they get even better, the tide keeps rising.

They made the Final Four run in 2019 but then otherwise they've been eliminated in the first weekend or didn't make the field every other year he's been there until this one. Some of these posters would say that he was lucky in 2019 and then showed his real ceiling the next five seasons, but of course that's not the truth. They had a couple of really good seasons in there, including the 2022 season when they were a 2 seed.
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bobinator said:

Impossible buddy, Have you seen Auburn's recruiting rankings? Going back from '24 they've been ranked 22, 74, 16, 79. That's an average of 48! Terrible!

But yeah, you're exactly right. Auburn is the perfect example. Now they got a little lucky and made a Final Four run as a 5 seed in his fifth season to really kick things off. But you get a coach that fires up the fan base, attendance gets better, more money starts flowing in, they get even better, the tide keeps rising.

They made the Final Four run in 2019 but then otherwise they've been eliminated in the first weekend or didn't make the field every other year he's been there until this one. Some of these posters would say that he was lucky in 2019 and then showed his real ceiling the next five seasons, but of course that's not the truth. They had a couple of really good seasons in there, including the 2022 season when they were a 2 seed.


Good job. I was going to make a similar post ON the Pearl Hotseat thread that was bumped last week - which alluded to his "decent" recruiting rankings.

Bottom line: much like a troubled couple that has to spend a little time talking to their pastor or a counselor, if Buzz and the AD can get together and formulate a "get better" plan with contributions and work commitment from BOTH sides, then maybe we can all get to work - on the Transfer Portal AND recruiting trails - and begin to build the next "legacy class" in Texas A&M Men's Basketball that might get the Aggies back to contending for and making the NCAAT every year- knowing that, one of those years, we might just break through - like Scott Drew did at Baylor and Bruce Pearl at Auburn.
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bobinator said:

Impossible buddy, Have you seen Auburn's recruiting rankings? Going back from '24 they've been ranked 22, 74, 16, 79. That's an average of 48! Terrible!

But yeah, you're exactly right. Auburn is the perfect example. Now they got a little lucky and made a Final Four run as a 5 seed in his fifth season to really kick things off. But you get a coach that fires up the fan base, attendance gets better, more money starts flowing in, they get even better, the tide keeps rising.

They made the Final Four run in 2019 but then otherwise they've been eliminated in the first weekend or didn't make the field every other year he's been there until this one. Some of these posters would say that he was lucky in 2019 and then showed his real ceiling the next five seasons, but of course that's not the truth. They had a couple of really good seasons in there, including the 2022 season when they were a 2 seed.
Pearl is a better BCG in terms of engaging and building a fanbase. There aren't many of those types in college hoops, but I certainly hope the next guy has A LOT more of that than buzz

Developing a true home advantage is pretty low hanging fruit...hell, I'd say BCG, Turge, BK and Buzz have all had that. Reed is not an easy place to play, even without having a Pearl-like coach to fan ambassador.
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I wonder if Buzz might become more attractive to Maryland because he can probably guarantee bringing over at least a decent start to a roster. I assume they're about to have a Kentucky-esque exodus.
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agtrevino07 said:

Nate Oats doing what you should do when it comes down to squashing rumors. From Jeff Goodman:

Alabama head coach Nate Oats has no interest in the vacant Maryland job, source told @thefieldof68.

There's been some recent chatter about Oats and the Terps job.
No truth to it.

https://nitter.space/GoodmanHoops/status/1906711353999425811#m


So this might actually be good news for Buzz since highly touted coaches like Oats are not interested in the job. It is a bad job simply by the fact that there is no AD so you are jumping into a very unknown situation.
yeah Buzz could have easily tried so save face and squash these rumors, instead reports are that he's trying extremely hard to keep his name tied to these jobs which is absolutely hilarious and embarrassing
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bobinator said:

I wonder if Buzz might become more attractive to Maryland because he can probably guarantee bringing over at least a decent start to a roster. I assume they're about to have a Kentucky-esque exodus.
They seem to think they're keeping their #2 and 3 dudes
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Off topic question but I don't remember the specifics


Was turgeon a similar situation when he left?


I remember hearing rumors at the time that he wanted out & we wanted him out....



But was he publicly looking for a new jobs while we sat around waiting for him to leave?
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Pichael Thompson said:

Off topic question but I don't remember the specifics


Was turgeon a similar situation when he left?


I remember hearing rumors at the time that he wanted out & we wanted him out....



But was he publicly looking for a new jobs while we sat around waiting for him to leave?
i think somebody said he was flirting with Oregon maybe? Maybe he flirted with others. But Maryland job came open very very late, so it hurt our timing on replacement. Most coaches had moved already to new gigs
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No. Not the same situation. Turgeon was much more your standard basketball coach. I honestly think he liked it here just fine, but the right situation came along and he felt like it was the best move for his career to go to Maryland.

I definitely don't think we wanted him out. Like ten people on the internet were over Turgeon but overall I think the vibe was that maybe it was starting to get a little stale, and his recruiting was definitely starting to look shaky, but nowhere near "want him out" level.
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BQ_90 said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Off topic question but I don't remember the specifics


Was turgeon a similar situation when he left?


I remember hearing rumors at the time that he wanted out & we wanted him out....



But was he publicly looking for a new jobs while we sat around waiting for him to leave?
i think somebody said he was flirting with Oregon maybe? Maybe he flirted with others. But Maryland job came open very very late, so it hurt our timing on replacement. Most coaches had moved already to new gigs
Not Oregon, Oklahoma State. Oregon job has been secure under Altman for a while now.
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There were some rumors the year before on Oregon, 2010 is when they got Altman.
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Turgeon whined about A&ms basketball support quite a bit. I'm sure you can still find videos of him waving arms in disgust at the crowd. It wasn't as obvious with Turg, but he definitely wanted a way out.
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Turgeon whined about A&ms basketball support quite a bit. I'm sure you can still find videos of him waving arms in disgust at the crowd. It wasn't as obvious with Turg, but he definitely wanted a way out.
I think people have somewhat either misinterpreted or misremembered Turgeon and his relationship with the fan base. He whined sometimes, but it came from a place of wanting it to get better. I don't think he really approached in the best way, but I don't think he was "in disgust" of the crowd. More like trying to fire it up.

And he did come in at a tough time. Everyone loved BCG and his style, and it was always going to be impossible for Turgeon to keep that kind of upward trajectory going.
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bobinator said:

No. Not the same situation. Turgeon was much more your standard basketball coach. I honestly think he liked it here just fine, but the right situation came along and he felt like it was the best move for his career to go to Maryland.

I definitely don't think we wanted him out. Like ten people on the internet were over Turgeon but overall I think the vibe was that maybe it was starting to get a little stale, and his recruiting was definitely starting to look shaky, but nowhere near "want him out" level.
He was still pretty good on the court and the team was still pretty good, but people were starting to get tired of his constant complaining. I don't remember too many complaints about on-the-court stuff from the fans.

I read an article the other day about Maryland and they mentioned he complained a lot there too.

I think he is the kind of guy that thinks because he wins some games, the school should treat him like KU, UK, or NC.

But mostly his personality is just a serial complainer.
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bobinator said:

There were some rumors the year before on Oregon, 2010 is when they got Altman.
nevermind...delete post, murder user. I mixed this thread up with another one...I thought yall were talking about who buzz was flirting with last year
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I think the problem is he sees hismelf as a "truth teller" and he wasn't overly concerned about messaging, and people are too sensitive. But that's why you need someone who understands these things.

The way you complain about a fan base is you praise the people that were there, and then figure out how to get more there.

"This atmosphere today was great, the people that have been coming out to support us are incredible, imagine what it would be like if this place were packed." or whatever. You couch your negative in a positive. Buzz actually is fairly good at that part. Turgeon wasn't at all.
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Quote:

One name the staff has identified as a potential target on the Maryland basketball coaching hot board is George Mason head coach Tony Skinn. Skinn played at George Mason and was part of the famous 2006 Final Four squad. After playing internationally until 2012, Skinn worked his way up in coaching with assistant stops at Louisiana Tech, Seton Hall, Ohio State and Maryland before landing the head job at his alma mater.

Skinn has produced back-to-back 20-win seasons at George Mason and reached the second round of the NIT this season after guiding the Patriots to a 15-3 mark in A-10 play. With his ties to Maryland, a reputation as an ace recruiter and success as a head coach, Skinn is viewed as a legitimate candidate in the Maryland basketball coaching search.
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Pumpkinhead said:


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One name the staff has identified as a potential target on the Maryland basketball coaching hot board is George Mason head coach Tony Skinn. Skinn played at George Mason and was part of the famous 2006 Final Four squad. After playing internationally until 2012, Skinn worked his way up in coaching with assistant stops at Louisiana Tech, Seton Hall, Ohio State and Maryland before landing the head job at his alma mater.

Skinn has produced back-to-back 20-win seasons at George Mason and reached the second round of the NIT this season after guiding the Patriots to a 15-3 mark in A-10 play. With his ties to Maryland, a reputation as an ace recruiter and success as a head coach, Skinn is viewed as a legitimate candidate in the Maryland basketball coaching search.
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He's also got the endorsement from the former coach.

I just posted this so Jeff Goodman can add this to his X post that he uses as insider information. Read into that what you want. He's been doing that from info he reads on Texags for years.

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bobinator said:

I think the problem is he sees hismelf as a "truth teller" and he wasn't overly concerned about messaging, and people are too sensitive. But that's why you need someone who understands these things.

The way you complain about a fan base is you praise the people that were there, and then figure out how to get more there.

"This atmosphere today was great, the people that have been coming out to support us are incredible, imagine what it would be like if this place were packed." or whatever. You couch your negative in a positive. Buzz actually is fairly good at that part. Turgeon wasn't at all.
Agree with that.

If a coach came in and truly embraced the students it would make a huge difference:

Show up at Midnight Yell during the fall with the Bball team,

Attend Breakaway or any other large student gatherings,

Go to Big Event (if not playing that weekend),


Have a Basketball Kickoff event with:

A) 3 on 3 Basketball Tourney for the Students with Good Prizes,
B) Free Food
C) 3 Point Shoot Out against Players
D) Student Slam Dunk Contest where the players are the judges,

Offer Crazy Contests for the kid that attends the most games (Punch-Card or Scan ID) and you win X or Free Pizza

Fun Halftime Contests for the Students to win prizes or scholarships

There are a million things you could do to engage the students that NO Coach has even attempted here.

Get the kids to love you as a coach, embrace the students, get them involved with the team, and they will WANT to come to the games.
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You say no coach has attempted but there have been some interesting ideas with various levels of success.

BCG did the midnight madness thing at Northgate. I thought that was a cool idea. We also did a midnight madness event at Kyle Field with a court on the field a couple of times, I didn't think that was terribly well executed but it was a good idea. And then with Turge we had the event with Soulja Boy at Reed Arena which was an interesting idea too.

There has been SOME efforts to come up with some fun ideas to engage fans, we just need more of them.
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bobinator said:

You say no coach has attempted but there have been some interesting ideas with various levels of success.

BCG did the midnight madness thing at Northgate. I thought that was a cool idea. We also did a midnight madness event at Kyle Field with a court on the field a couple of times, I didn't think that was terribly well executed but it was a good idea. And then with Turge we had the event with Soulja Boy at Reed Arena which was an interesting idea too.

There has been SOME efforts to come up with some fun ideas to engage fans, we just need more of them.
True, True, and True...

Forgot about the Soulja boy Maroon Madness :<)

But what has that been 10+ years since it last happened?

Just looked it up... Soulja Boy came in 2007, so my fish would have been 1 years old when that happened.

Buzz doesn't have time for it, so nothing will change under his watch.
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it wouldn't take much to become worshipped as a bball coach here. play the game more with the fans and local community. you have 80k students to draw from and 2 huge alumni bases within 90 mins in Austin and Houston. You have to win, but just be a relatable human first and foremost....
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Between his large staff and the marketing dept., it all could be done if Buzz wanted!
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New idea with an NIL bonus, get a local print shop to get a couple of players to do a social media segment called "posterized" where fans can send in people they think should get posterized, and then you set it up so that a member of the basketball team shows up and posterizes them on a little portable basketball hoop.

You can send in your professor, your roommate, nobody is safe from getting posterized.

Can't believe I'm just giving this idea out for free.
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bobinator said:

New idea with an NIL bonus, get a local print shop to get a couple of players to do a social media segment called "posterized" where fans can send in people they think should get posterized, and then you set it up so that a member of the basketball team shows up and posterizes them on a little portable basketball hoop.

You can send in your professor, your roommate, nobody is safe from getting posterized.

Can't believe I'm just giving this idea out for free.
Sort of like this ???

Smack Talk-A-Pella-Grams

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cool!
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Turgeon whined about A&ms basketball support quite a bit. I'm sure you can still find videos of him waving arms in disgust at the crowd. It wasn't as obvious with Turg, but he definitely wanted a way out.
So did BGC, yet we revere him and hate Turge.

It's all in the messaging.
 
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