I'm not saying Buzz doesn't want to win.

The only names I can see from their forums (tough without a premium sub) are Tony Skinn, Luke Murray, Beard, Duane Simpkins and Buzz.

I think it was after one of the games. There was a video of it. If I remember correctly it made several news stories. You may be able to find it on here or you might try You Tube.

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Fat Bottom Squirrels said:

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This board is so funny. I told all of you on the day he made his speech about A&M being racist that two things would happen:

1. We'd lose to Michigan
2. He was leaving.

I was (as usual) called all sorts of names, banned, told off by bobinator for dare questioning anyone's loyalty to the program, etc, only to be proven exactly right.

I don't know how the rest of you can't see this stuff when it's unfolding right before your eyes. Our athletic program is absolutely toxic and headed for the doldrums and everyone who is anyone, is trying to get out while they can. You can thank the people who run our athletic department for the next 15 years of misery we are about to go through.

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And the last paragraph is the height of reactionary internet hyperbole.

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Yes, simply "reactionary hyperbole". We have so much to be excited about.

Good Lord.

Please find where I said any of that stuff you're saying I said

bobinator said:

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Please find where I said any of that stuff you're saying I said

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Here you go:

"For the most part your posts have been fine, but blanket saying our student athletes have no loyalty was a step too far unless you have some kind of evidence for that. Some of them do. They want to win more than we do I'm sure. Criticize their play, sure, but to criticize their loyalty is unnecessary when several of these athletes are really involved and successful students."

And

"The ship has sailed to you. It doesn't mean it's sailed to them. Maybe you consider this deal to be 100% transactional now, but that doesn't mean the other side does. "I don't expect loyalty, therefore I can say whatever I want" is a pretty self-centered approach when you have no idea if the other said is loyal to this school or not.

And again, nobody is saying don't criticize their play. We all criticize their play.

And

" okay, well if it's goaltending I'm going to keep doing it because hearing someone trash our players and say they have no loyalty annoys the **** out of me so you're going to have to toughen up too."

Now, I assume you're going to respond with "I'm talking about the players, not Buzz." But I expect that when a mass exodus leaves with him, my points will remain.

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Dimond1968 said:

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I was a massive Buzz Williams guy since Marquette. But I'm really kind of over it. The whole branding thing with Buzz. A basketball not being first approach etc. The exhausting way that it is with. Buzz. Getting a young hungry coach who is more interested in winning basketball games than TED TALKS and branding would be nice. A coach who is more interested in getting the best talent not just "fits."

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Buzz sure wins a lot of regular season games for not caring about winning.

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FTFY

I don't have to say it, it's very obvious I'm talking about the players. And your original post was that they'd leave if they could get a bigger bag. Not that they'd leave if the coach leaves, which is obviously different too.

My point was that I've heard from good sources that several of our players could have left for a bigger bag but didn't, so I'm going to call it out when people say otherwise.

But obviously the coach leaving is an entirely different situation, which isn't the situation those quotes were about.

You can believe whatever you want but even if this was the best run athletic department in the country I think he'd still be leaving.

Why?

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/board/53/contents/coaching-canidates-247832109

Terp fans have mixed thoughts on Buzz.

The Hefty Lefty said:

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https://247sports.com/college/maryland/board/53/contents/coaching-canidates-247832109

Terp fans have mixed thoughts on Buzz.

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Wow, it's blatantly obvious they've not zero grasp on our very mixed feelings on Buzz and have not been perusing our boards.

Trev is going to penny pinch anyway, Buzz would help us if he left.

Because this is what he does. He's done it twice before and it's no surprise now. He has talked openly about understanding that, eventually, all coaches get fired and so he has always tried purposefully to stay ahead of that.

It's talked about at length in that article from when he left Marquette to go to VTech.

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the most cool guy said:

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Buzz should leave

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He is trying. Just not finding a taker.

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Which is pretty telling.

If he was a slam dunk great coach schools would have been knocking down his door to hire him

The fact that so many openings came open and buzz was only mentioned once as a candidate for Indiana but down on the list, and now Maryland but seems like it's buzz creating the chatter, speaks to what others think of his coaching ability or his quirky personality.

Can't believe all the people that wanted Buzz can't wait to get rid of him now…oh wait…

This year and the last two were terrible years to fire football and basketball coaches that have guaranteed contracts.

We know in roughly March if the House settlement actually starts cos or not abd it probably will not even with congressional help.

always heard the sign of a healthy program is one that can retain coaches, but its probably more telling when no one even wants your coach.

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Even if you like him as a coach, as I do, why would any of us want a coach if he doesn't want to be here. That's not going to be good for anyone.

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This

I like him as a coach, but If he doesn't want to be here then adios man.

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greg.w.h said:

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We know in roughly March if the House settlement actually starts cos or not abd it probably will not even with congressional help.

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I'm fighting though this sentence

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Once you get through it, you find yourself inside a beautiful mind.