Buzz to Maryland?

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zgolfz85 said:


Saw this comment on the MD boards and I think this is a pretty common opinion in that location. Not sure if there's any place more satanic than the DC area:

"I did not realize Buzz is a religious freak. Praying with players etc. Don't like that at all"


You just have to pray about every city and take notes as to which feels more satanic. At least that's what has worked for my rankings.
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Ag1188 said:

taylorswift13_ said:

Looks like we're stuck with the soft coach who tried quitting on his school and players, and was forced to come back because nobody else wanted him yay us…
His other option is getting fired next offseason. The fact he's trying to save us a buyout is reason enough to not cry about Buzz trying to get out. He's doing us a favor.

Of course, he also could get his ass in gear, get some good transfers and have a relatively big season next year. It's not entirely out of the question.
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So a coach can't test the transfer portal for coaches? (without hurtin' 'fans' feelings?) It's now a business more than ever. Can't find a player that rips him. Now if that starts, things change.

He'll build a roster, others will hate to play him; less than 20 posters will keep *****in' about not being a basketball school if the school would just do such and such. And he'll still piss in a few cheerios of those wanting to be on TB1.

All because of a poor 5 minute stretch in March; all the good is forgotten. If he wants to be here, he will be. Good position.
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But he doesn't want to be here. He wants to be at Maryland.
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85AustinAg said:

But he doesn't want to be here. He wants to be at Maryland.


*anywhere else*
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85AustinAg said:

But he doesn't want to be here. He wants to be at Maryland.


It's not even Maryland. He wants to be somewhere that isn't A&M. Maryland is just the latest opening
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justsomeguy said:

That is nothing to our BOR. They could raise that with 2 phone calls. We have money pouring out of us. We just spend it like a teenager.
Sure, we have wealthy former students that COULD pay off the contract. But, I don't think we have anyone that is so enamored with our basketball program that WILL do it, and chip in for what would likely be a more expensive coach too. Idk, it's a mess.

Most coach contracts have clauses that allow termination of the coach for doing things that are detrimental to the school. Too bad lobbying for another job doesn't qualify, cause it does damage our program.
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bobinator said:

Save face to who is my question. Anyone that cares knows the real story, and most people probably don't care.

If he has to come back you just move on and pretend it didn't happen.


Yep, we got our own Mark Stoops.
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Good ol fashioned Mexican standoff
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Saw this morning that Oats is interested in the Maryland job. Doesn't like the funding model nor the emphasis on football at Bama.
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EKUAg said:

Saw this morning that Oats is interested in the Maryland job. Doesn't like the funding model nor the emphasis on football at Bama.


I don't believe that for a second
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Nate Oats could have UNC or Kansas down the road if he wants it. No way he's going to MD
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EKUAg said:

Saw this morning that Oats is interested in the Maryland job. Doesn't like the funding model nor the emphasis on football at Bama.


If I was the Bama AD I'd laugh in Oats agent's face
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X posting

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If Nate Oats is in play Buzz is not. Maybe bama will take Buzz.
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That's an Auburn insider trolling. How many more of yall are gonna fall for that?
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Oats is on track to get a job much better than Maryland if he wants it someday. That account is trolling.
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One of the best teams in the country in the best conference and he's going to leave that situation to go to a no longer relevant school whose coach left over having no NIL and no AD.

Sure.
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Account is prob trolling, but a common theme amongst several SEC schools....NIL funding for BBall programs.

A reason SEC brass didn't fully think about tu entrance....Austin will afford them more money and oppty (size of city) vs. practically the rest of SEC teams in 'smaller towns'. LSU is in a sort of a comparable city (from LA perspective, 2nd largest city), but majority of the teams are in smaller-midsize cities/college towns (almost precisely across the Conference -- exception is tu now).
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EKUAg said:

Saw this morning that Oats is interested in the Maryland job. Doesn't like the funding model nor the emphasis on football at Bama.


WJOX-FM in Birmingham were just talking about the run Alabama has had in basketball and how (since Oats has been there) they've put more resources into basketball and how it gets people interested in the university from out of state. Several big-time donors putting money into it, etc and realizing they can't just throw it all to football.
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Arkansas, Kentucky, Miss St, Bama, Auburn, LSU & UGA all signed top 20 HS recruiting classes this past year.

Arkansas, Kentucky, Bama, Missouri,UT, tu, Ole Miss all signed top 20 transfer classes in 2024.

The SEC has all the talent, yet I'm supposed to believe coaches are upset because they don't have the resources to compete for said talent?
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YouBet said:

One of the best teams in the country in the best conference and he's going to leave that situation to go to a no longer relevant school whose coach left over having no NIL and no AD.

Sure.

If Buzz isn't happy at A&M he sure as hell wouldn't be happy at Maryland.
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Dear Maryland,


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE BUZZ
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Now seeing more people doubtful on X that Buzz is in play. Sounds like his desperation is a turn off for Maryland and now the fit is in doubt
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theloneranger said:

Now seeing more people doubtful on X that Buzz is in play. Sounds like his desperation is a turn off for Maryland and now the fit is in doubt
It's probably more about the lack of tournament success. No way a fanbase that has seen their team only make 3 sweet 16's since their national title run almost 25 years ago is too impressed with Buzz's overall resume especially at A&M.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Arkansas, Kentucky, Miss St, Bama, Auburn, LSU & UGA all signed top 20 HS recruiting classes this past year.

Arkansas, Kentucky, Bama, Missouri,UT, tu, Ole Miss all signed top 20 transfer classes in 2024.

The SEC has all the talent, yet I'm supposed to believe coaches are upset because they don't have the resources to compete for said talent?


Been thinking about this a lot in trying to theorize our pitch to potential coaches. What are the pros and cons of being A&M's head coach?

Pros: we have more money than God.
Cons: a very tiny fanbase

???: the SEC has become a premier basketball conference in the last 5-10 years, largely because big time football schools like Alabama and Auburn have put money and effort into it.

There's always going to be up and coming coaches looking to take a leap to lead a program like ours. I don't see us money-whipping the top couple of tiers (the championship level guys or the almost championship level guys) but there's a lot of potential here. There's also a definite ceiling as far as fan support goes.
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It's a very easy sell (this is assuming Buzz takes the Maryland job or similar level job):

  • We're going to pay you a very competitive salary
  • The expectations aren't outrageous and if you're even close to them we'll keep giving you money
  • It's obvious you can win here. This isn't a program where good coaches come to die. Three of our last four coaches have been hired away to "better" jobs and even the other one had a couple of tournament seasons including a 3 seed season despite some extenuating circumstances.
  • We're close to some talent-rich areas. (this one doesn't matter for all coaches but could matter for some)
  • A high potential for investment in the program. Maybe it's not at high level now, but the potential is obviously there if you get the fan base fired up and on your side. There's literally no reason we can't dial up our basketball support like an Alabama or an Auburn for the right coach.
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SOMEONE TAKE BUZZ, PLEASE!!!
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bobinator said:

It's a very easy sell (this is assuming Buzz takes the Maryland job or similar level job):

  • We're going to pay you a very competitive salary
  • The expectations aren't outrageous and if you're even close to them we'll keep giving you money
  • It's obvious you can win here. This isn't a program where good coaches come to die. Three of our last four coaches have been hired away to "better" jobs and even the other one had a couple of tournament seasons including a 3 seed season despite some extenuating circumstances.
  • We're close to some talent-rich areas. (this one doesn't matter for all coaches but could matter for some)
  • A high potential for investment in the program. Maybe it's not at high level now, but the potential is obviously there if you get the fan base fired up and on your side. There's literally no reason we can't dial up our basketball support like an Alabama or an Auburn for the right coach.



Yep

It's clear that you can have success here as a coach
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Just saw that.
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bobinator said:

It's a very easy sell (this is assuming Buzz takes the Maryland job or similar level job):

  • We're going to pay you a very competitive salary
  • The expectations aren't outrageous and if you're even close to them we'll keep giving you money
  • It's obvious you can win here. This isn't a program where good coaches come to die. Three of our last four coaches have been hired away to "better" jobs and even the other one had a couple of tournament seasons including a 3 seed season despite some extenuating circumstances.
  • We're close to some talent-rich areas. (this one doesn't matter for all coaches but could matter for some)
  • A high potential for investment in the program. Maybe it's not at high level now, but the potential is obviously there if you get the fan base fired up and on your side. There's literally no reason we can't dial up our basketball support like an Alabama or an Auburn for the right coach.

Appreciate the optimistic (and realistic) take on the men's basketball program at A&M. Get real tired of hearing "Have you seen our history? This is the best we can do!"
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There's too many posters that just want some kind of binary thing, that Buzz is either good, or he sucks. And in fact, there are a few randos on here on both ends of the spectrum. You've got BuzzFan24 acting like Buzz is basically John Wooden but we've giving him the resources of Ranger Junior College and then a few crazies on the other end saying he's terrible, can't coach, can't recruit, etc and that we should hire a coach with a proven ability to win a major conference or land top 20 recruiting classes.

The reality is, of course, much more complicated than that.

The idea that we'd fire a coach coming off of back to back tournament win seasons is so detached from reality that it's not even worth discussing. The idea that we'd pay $15M to do it is so crazy those people should go see someone.

So you have people like me saying that Buzz's results have been good enough that his job isn't in jeopardy, it's not because we think Buzz is absolutely incredible or that we could never be better. That's what it sometimes gets mistaken for, "oh we should just be happy with making the tournament because we've never been better, you're accepting mediocrity."

No, it's because some of us actually like college basketball, and enjoy a good season. And this was an objectively good season for us. It was one of our best 5 or so seasons of all time! If you didn't enjoy any of this season then you either like being miserable or you just don't actually like Aggie basketball.

But it doesn't mean those people don't want us to be even better. You can have an understanding of what our history is and what our limitations are but also want to see improvements. For example, I think the way Buzz treats the fan base is a limitation on how successful we can be, and that's now ten times as true as it was last week when I posted it. If a program like ours is going to rise above our historical station, it's going to take a massive across-the-board effort to do it. And treating the fans like they aren't a part of the program is a major hurdle to that happening.
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Well said
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bobinator said:

I said a month ago it felt like he was leaving. Keep up bud.


It's hard with how you spam the board
"I don't care about your feelings OP. I'm not going to let fandom replace reason, thought, and history"
 
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