It actually seems like her brother would LOVE being a spartan.

Every look on Aimee Lou Wood's face during the **** conversation had me laughing out loud.

Like Bill Simmons, want a standalone episode (or webisode ) of Rick and Frank partying in Bangkok

The most boring penultimate episode in White Lotus yet.

The most interesting part of the episode was when I realized Greg/Gary is Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite

Does Belinda have something on HBO they dont want getting out? Her acting wouldn't pass a screen test for network TV

This season has been one giant troll

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Well, I guess that answers the question about the fate of the Chicago Samaritan couple. How many innocent folks are going to die in this season? Wait, wrong thread.


Did Glengary really want to watch Saxon **** his girl? Or is he after something else there? And is anyone else surprised Saxon didn't go for it?

I think Lochy enjoyed getting with one of his siblings, and is aiming for the other one now. She had her hand on his leg (innocently) and he was giving her a look.

I think Saxon ends up with Rick's girl somehow.

What is our security guard buddy going to do with his info. I think he probably just tells his boss. And then he and Mook both quit and start a detective agency.

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Not how I read that at all. Rather, IMO, Lochlan knows his brother is disgusted by him now and feels shame both for what he did (which her hand on his leg reminded him of) and for not being the hetero, dick-swinging alpha-male-wannabe his brother wanted him to. So, just like his sister, Lochlan is looking to bolt any way he can, clinging to the same escape plan his sister has. Except in Lochloan expressing a desire to join her, it's clear now that she actually doesn't give a **** about being a Buddhist or whatever, she just wanted to get away from her family (and everything they represent) as well. Turns out, she's not as resilient or enlightened as she thought, and it seems would miss the comforts of her privileged life too much, no matter how much she says she hates it.

Kill Belinda off. She's worthless and boring.

Team Gary

Gotta disagree.... to anyone calling this episode boring.

I thought it was great. amazing even. There was finally so much story actually pushed and putting people into position for the finale in effect. A lot of huge realizations and setup that will be important.


First of all Victoria was literally killing me I had several laugh out loud moments with her dialogue. "Ugh not the boat people!!!'" and then trying to save that chick at the party from her awful older man and finally praying to Jesus to save Piper from that Buddhist cult. So perfectly Victoria.

And the scene between Chloe, Saxon and Chelsea on the couches at the party was such gold. the second such sexual revelation that led to priceless reactions this time from Chelsea who was almost giddy about the twisted watching your parents ****/Gary scenario and reclaiming your mom from the womb - WTF. And Chelsea is just smiling and nodding enthusiastically and who thought Saxon would say no to that?

Laurie giving some comeuppance to Kate (fake and fronting like your life is perfect) and Jaclyn (vain and selfish) and then storming off to have her own fling to show them only to have it backfire as it was just a play for money. Makes you wonder if he asked the same of Jaclyn.

Piper I think realizes she does not want to stay at the monastery but then Lochlan F's it up by saying he does so now she is in a jam. She can't bail out now without looking stupid and admitting she just wants her comfortable life back home. More darkness prelude from Lochlan stating that he thinks that place can help him keep away the dark tendencies he has or whatever.

But more importantly at the fights Gaitok realizes who did the robbery and Valentin distracted him (and possibly Mook again serves to distract him from that?) while Laurie actually sees the loot stolen from the shop in her hasty escape.

Meanwhile Rick has his showdown with his fathers killer - but stupidly just leaves. I mean they know where you are staying which I think leads to the entire showdown in the end or relates to it. And Frank with the Sritala lady was hysterical not knowing anything about her career and just winging it. And then ditching the gun and going on an epic bender.


Some predictions of sorts - some of this setup seems obvious in a way but not the details of course.

So anyway I think this all leads to a scenario where some cops are going to raid the White Lotus - could be for Rick, could be for the heist, could be for Greg/Gary, could be for Tim's business fraud, etc. But most importantly ALL of them are going to think they are coming for them but leads to this chaotic shootout and someone dies accidentally basically.

I fear it is going to be poor Chelsea with more foreshadowing from her about her being Hope and Rick being Pain and one of them wins in the end. Ugh. That along with her near death experiences, snakes and bad things come in threes makes me very concerned for her. Gaitok may accidentally shoot her ending his security career.

I also think the poison fruit blender thing is a red herring, I think Tim (with the gun now missing) probably tries to kill himself that way and maybe causes the entire Ratliff family to experience some really bad violent diarrhea and vomiting on their trip to Thailand. But it turns out that plant is not poisonous really - I looked it up - only the seeds and really the kernel of the seeds is poisonous not the fruit flesh. So I doubt he includes the seeds and thus only gets them all really sick or something. I think Tim is the only one who ends up staying in Thailand at the monastery to escape the two things that drive him the most nuts (Victoria and Saxon) and evade the law of course.

I think the 3 girl friends make up of sorts and plan to get together again maybe in 5 years and just leave it at that.

I do think we also get the reveal that that dude is Ricks father. He recognized the name and seemed to be about to say something when Rick drew the gun on him. Plus they know where they are staying of course. But either way Rick was completely different after the encounter, Just facing him seems to have freed him up and I think he is happy now and ready to commit to Chelsea (but she dies tragically).

I think the cops were coming for Gary in reality. I don't know though it could be Tim. I can't see them both getting away with their respective crimes. But I also don't think both are caught. This really could still go so many ways of course but those are my thoughts.


But anyway I actually really enjoyed it. Several things made me laugh out loud and I thought it set the table perfectly for the finale. Whatever happens I'm glued.

Laurie hooked up with one of Valentin's Russian connections though, not Valentin

****er got slapped in the dick by the hot Russian Margot Robbie look alike

Sign me up

I don't think anything. She's pilled up and not a fan of being around folks she doesn't know. So Bibb was probably a blur just like the "boat people". Just some forgettable NPC to Posey

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Not how I read that at all. Rather, IMO, Lochlan knows his brother is disgusted by him now and feels shame both for what he did (which her hand on his leg reminded him of) and for not being the hetero, dick-swinging alpha-male-wannabe his brother wanted him to. So, just like his sister, Lochlan is looking to bolt any way he can, clinging to the same escape plan his sister has. Except in Lochloan expressing a desire to join her, it's clear now that she actually doesn't give a **** about being a Buddhist or whatever, she just wanted to get away from her family (and everything they represent) as well. Turns out, she's not as resilient or enlightened as she thought, and it seems would miss the comforts of her privileged life too much, no matter how much she says she hates it.

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Yeah she does. She seems to read Buddhist books and regularly meditates. Her meeting with the monk seemed genuine too.

I think you are right about her wanting to leave her family and life behind though. And her brother is ruining that.

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I have a feeling that all of you who are obsessed with the idea of "everything is intentional and important" are going to be disappointed.

Though I doubt would admit it

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He's tied things together pretty neatly both of the last 2 seasons. Is everything a clue? No. Is everything deliberate? Yes.

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TCTTS said:

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Not how I read that at all. Rather, IMO, Lochlan knows his brother is disgusted by him now and feels shame both for what he did (which her hand on his leg reminded him of) and for not being the hetero, dick-swinging alpha-male-wannabe his brother wanted him to. So, just like his sister, Lochlan is looking to bolt any way he can, clinging to the same escape plan his sister has. Except in Lochloan expressing a desire to join her, it's clear now that she actually doesn't give a **** about being a Buddhist or whatever, she just wanted to get away from her family (and everything they represent) as well. Turns out, she's not as resilient or enlightened as she thought, and it seems would miss the comforts of her privileged life too much, no matter how much she says she hates it.

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Yeah she does. She seems to read Buddhist books and regularly meditates. Her meeting with the monk seemed genuine too.

I think you are right about her wanting to leave her family and life behind though. And her brother is ruining that.

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Yea I think she was just pissed that suddenly he decided he wants to tag along on the spiritual journey and that has ruined the appeal for her, even if he is her favorite sibling/family member

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TCTTS said:

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Not how I read that at all. Rather, IMO, Lochlan knows his brother is disgusted by him now and feels shame both for what he did (which her hand on his leg reminded him of) and for not being the hetero, dick-swinging alpha-male-wannabe his brother wanted him to. So, just like his sister, Lochlan is looking to bolt any way he can, clinging to the same escape plan his sister has. Except in Lochloan expressing a desire to join her, it's clear now that she actually doesn't give a **** about being a Buddhist or whatever, she just wanted to get away from her family (and everything they represent) as well. Turns out, she's not as resilient or enlightened as she thought, and it seems would miss the comforts of her privileged life too much, no matter how much she says she hates it.

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Yeah she does. She seems to read Buddhist books and regularly meditates. Her meeting with the monk seemed genuine too.

I think you are right about her wanting to leave her family and life behind though. And her brother is ruining that.

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Reading Buddhist books and meditating in her mansion in North Carolina/on the five-star trip daddy paid for - vs actually living the Buddhist life - are two completely different things. My point is, when push comes to shove, it's increasingly appearing as if she's not going to be able to walk the walk, i.e. it was all talk. There was a reason her last scene of the episode was her in bed, warily looking around her ****ty, sparse room, at the cobwebs on the ceiling, listening to the dripping water, etc. That ain't the life for her, and deep down she knows it.

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Gig em G said:

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TCTTS said:

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Not how I read that at all. Rather, IMO, Lochlan knows his brother is disgusted by him now and feels shame both for what he did (which her hand on his leg reminded him of) and for not being the hetero, dick-swinging alpha-male-wannabe his brother wanted him to. So, just like his sister, Lochlan is looking to bolt any way he can, clinging to the same escape plan his sister has. Except in Lochloan expressing a desire to join her, it's clear now that she actually doesn't give a **** about being a Buddhist or whatever, she just wanted to get away from her family (and everything they represent) as well. Turns out, she's not as resilient or enlightened as she thought, and it seems would miss the comforts of her privileged life too much, no matter how much she says she hates it.

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Yeah she does. She seems to read Buddhist books and regularly meditates. Her meeting with the monk seemed genuine too.

I think you are right about her wanting to leave her family and life behind though. And her brother is ruining that.

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Yea I think she was just pissed that suddenly he decided he wants to tag along on the spiritual journey and that has ruined the appeal for her, even if he is her favorite sibling/family member

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It's like the person that stops liking a band just because they made it big and became popular. That's the way I took it at least. When it wasn't just her thing anymore she lost interest.