regional jet crash? (American Airlines) at Reagan (DCA)

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ETFan said:

Flight path is directly on ILS for runway 1.

Heli screwed up.

Maybe…or maybe on purpose…

Unfortunately we can't rule anything in or out yet…
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I cant phantom, but I can fathom.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

DC police helicopter registered to the Department of Interior? How's that work?
I'm thinking the US Park Police?

edit - No, appears to have been military.
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drewser95 said:

Yeah CNN (I know) is saying Blackhawk

Nevermind. Looking at a different source.
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Still unclear about the type of helo and ownership of helo. See four different things all confidently reported from different sources.
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annie88 said:

titan said:

annie88 said:

From what the video shows it looks like the helicopter literally just ran into the plane.

How weird. How tragic.
More precisely, it looks like it crosses it path from right angles in clueless fashion and may have been rammed by the jet and then you see the explosion. You may be right, but to time to hit the jet is much narrower than fouling its path would be and that's my impression.
Well, that's true. It's really hard to tell. I wonder if If the pilot of the helicopter or even the plane had a medical event.
Nothing looks out of line with the jet on its approach. It would not see the helicopter in time to make any evasion if it "lunged into view" from their right across their path like it did.

Now for the chopper, if flying carelessly enough, would not necessarily see the big plane approaching from left either, but what was it doing in that air space flying so casually? It doesn't look out of control either but if there is an event its probably with it.
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The man clued in with proper cardinal directions.
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From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.
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Saying H-60 Military.
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BadMoonRisin said:

I cant phantom, but I can fathom.


That too.
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Harry Stone said:

From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.


That would take incredible skill, no?
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Harry Stone said:

From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.

I am no authority myself…but that what it looks like to my untrained eye…

Hope it's an accident…
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https://www.airnavradar.com/data/mode-s/AE313D
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The CRJ700 was lined up for runway 33 which is not used as often (shorter). Wondering if the helo thought it was staying clear of the normal inbound traffic and missed that the jet was cleared for the other runway.
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Could this be an error by air traffic control?
Wonder how long it will be before AI integrates into ATC systems and/or
takes more control of the traffic.
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Harry Stone said:

From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.
Not if it crossed its path and is "T-boned" which is what looks like to me. If its a ramming, its not the kind of
plane you would think would.

For the moment, lean 70% or much greater some kind of stupid accident. An air-space issue or the chopper to mulish about what it was doing (if govt on some mission)
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live feed of rescue personel


8 victms pulled from water per EMS radio feed. Doesnt say if live or dead. Just victims
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FAA is saying it's a Blackhawk…I'm thinking the FAA is probably the definitive source for the type of helo…
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Many variants of the H-60.
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I guess we're presuming no survivors from either craft considering the speed. So sad.
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Looking at Google Earth, the HQ for the Marine One squadron is just across the river to the northeast.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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P.U.T.U said:




Is that implying the helo is CIA?
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Another report said army vip
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Hmmm…
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DC Police denies that it's theirs. People looking at FlightAware saying different things and it's inconsitent with WH. WH saying it was military. Weird deal.
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Radio link posted above said someone was bringing in 8 or 9 bodies.
Another report sounded like they had 14.
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Harry Stone said:

From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.
Oh my Lord. Yes let's hope not.
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FireAg said:

Is it wrong that I'm hoping accident and not the alternative?
You never know these days… would be interesting to see who was on that flight ?
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This is going to be very bad.
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annie88 said:

Harry Stone said:

From the video it looks like that helicopter targeted the plane. Hope Im wrong. I hate this.
Oh my Lord. Yes let's hope not.
It is a blackhawk. So, I don't see that happening . God, I hope you are not right.
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akaggie05 said:

The CRJ700 was lined up for runway 33 which is not used as often (shorter). Wondering if the helo thought it was staying clear of the normal inbound traffic and missed that the jet was cleared for the other runway.


It's Class B airspace from the surface up to 10,000 ft. No way ATC wasn't involved.
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ATC is terrifying. Near misses are increasing
 
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