Amphibs (LHD/LHA) are slow and generally aren't attached to CVN's. I also doubt subs are slowing them down. I think the speed is mostly dictated by the economical (efficient) speed of the destroyers/cruisers and the carrier's need to launch and recover planes
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USAF also is still positioning.
Eight USAF C-17A Globemasters are currently flying between Ramstein, Spangdahlem, Lakenheath, Al-Udeid & Muwaffaq Salti air bases.
— Mehdi H. (@mhmiranusa) January 22, 2026
Three from Lakenheath (RCH876, RCH869, RCH842) two from Ramestein (RCH467, RCH417), two from Al-Udeid (RCH839, MOOSE93) & one from Spangdahlem… pic.twitter.com/pIvetUbDyC
I want to know what those guys are carrying.
GE said:
I want to know what those guys are carrying.
Probably patriots and other AA missiles.
ETA: Interesting that one of the C-17s appears to be headed from Doha to India now. Also an RQ-4 patrolling the Strait of Hormuz.
TxAg82 said:
The post right above explains all the American equipment being moved over. Seems like we may still be loading the cannons.
If it takes us 10 days to hit iran months after the IDF decimated their ADA, we have serious issues that need correction ASAP.
Prayers to the Persians who want to go back to wearing bikinis.
Edit as called out by ABATTBQ11 below, on who took out ADA.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
We didn't. The Israelis did. We just bombed their nuclear facilities.
Burnsey said:
Welp. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now. Iranian people enjoy your ayatollahs and the occasional Israeli ass whooping.
Check back in a day or three and you may want to revise your assessment.
I just hope we dont leave the Iranians out to dry after all that bluster and encouragement.
That would be one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of Trump's administration, by far.
That would be one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of Trump's administration, by far.
I suspect that nothing will happen before Trump is back stateside. After that, I think it's imminent.
BadMoonRisin said:
I just hope we dont leave the Iranians out to dry after all that bluster and encouragement.
That would be one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of Trump's administration, by far.
100%.
IMO thats why JFK was terminated after leaving all those rebels in cuba to die after promising support.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
JFABNRGR said:BadMoonRisin said:
I just hope we dont leave the Iranians out to dry after all that bluster and encouragement.
That would be one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of Trump's administration, by far.
100%.
IMO thats why JFK was terminated after leaving all those rebels in cuba to die after promising support.
LHO was certainly ticked about this and other things.
LHO would be anti-fa today, what are you talking about, he was a Marxist
My comment was poking fun at the concept that JFK was "terminated" by anything other than a deranged LHO.
Ah, I missed that
flown-the-coop said:
My comment was poking fun at the concept that JFK was "terminated" by anything other than a deranged LHO.
Not trying to derail the thread, and I don't mean this negatively, but you were real active on the JFK thread a couple months ago weren't you? You seem to have done your research and went deep down that rabbit hole.
"If you are reading this, I have passed on from this world — not as big a deal for you as it was for me."
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I posted a couple times but don't recall exploring rabbit holes. Probably should leave any other debate on JFK to that thread. I was simply making the reply as not everyone has been sold on JFK being killed for XYZ reason / group, etc.
Back to Iran. I think the poster saying Trump will delay any action until he is back stateside is likely on point.
Hopefully we do start seeing some action. We know Trump is not afraid to strike but he has strong preferences for off-ramps prior to taking those actions.
Back to Iran. I think the poster saying Trump will delay any action until he is back stateside is likely on point.
Hopefully we do start seeing some action. We know Trump is not afraid to strike but he has strong preferences for off-ramps prior to taking those actions.
Ahh. Apologies for getting you mixed up with another poster.
Agreed on Trump being back stateside before a major operation happens. I wonder if that is something the SS would insist on at this point?
Agreed on Trump being back stateside before a major operation happens. I wonder if that is something the SS would insist on at this point?
"If you are reading this, I have passed on from this world — not as big a deal for you as it was for me."
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TacosaurusRex said:
Ahh. Apologies for getting you mixed up with another poster.
Agreed on Trump being back stateside before a major operation happens. I wonder if that is something the SS would insist on at this point?
As of a few mins ago AF1 was airborne over northern France on the way home. Lincoln should be on station soon as well. I really think most of this is a pressure operation to get the mullahs to go ahead and bail out to Russia before they get entombed by a JDAM, but I assume we will eventually go after them and particularly the heads of the IRGC if they don't leave voluntarily.
MouthBQ98 said:
The speed limit is the fuel efficiency of the turbine/diesel powered escort vessels and support ships. Possibly also the unseen attack submarine that is likely lurking around the carrier group as well, as it will want to travel without making too much noise, though I suppose they can hand off to another SSN already near the operations area. Just a bit on conjecture there but my understanding is there's usually an attack boat in the vicinity of a carrier group on station.
The guided missile destroyers, frigates, maybe a cruiser have a long range but not at near flank speed. Same with any support ships or attached amphibious elements.
I was Air Force and not Navy
but I would imagine that the submarine attached to the Lincoln Battle Group would actually have made faster time -
because it could go under water through the Malacca Straits
while the surface warships have to wait in line in one of the most crowded sea lanes
flown-the-coop said:
I posted a couple times but don't recall exploring rabbit holes. Probably should leave any other debate on JFK to that thread. I was simply making the reply as not everyone has been sold on JFK being killed for XYZ reason / group, etc.
Back to Iran. I think the poster saying Trump will delay any action until he is back stateside is likely on point.
Hopefully we do start seeing some action. We know Trump is not afraid to strike but he has strong preferences for off-ramps prior to taking those actions.
Trump does seem to be very risk averse until EVERYTHING possible is deployed/ready for action
so that means not until Friday night at the earliest
USS Gerald Ford likely just approaching Gibraltar right now still too far away to provide any support.
Hopefully Trump understands and this may be helped by Hegseth understanding that leaving any of the IRGC in place will ultimately lead to more death and a longer transition of power. Kill all mullahs, ayatollahs and all the IRGC you can find.
But killing those "religious" leaders will not be supported by our friends in the ME, at least not publicly. But i think we need to do it anyways. The ayatollahs believe they are "reincarnation" of old Muslim prophets. To say they are fanatical does not seem sufficient.
But killing those "religious" leaders will not be supported by our friends in the ME, at least not publicly. But i think we need to do it anyways. The ayatollahs believe they are "reincarnation" of old Muslim prophets. To say they are fanatical does not seem sufficient.
flown-the-coop said:
Hopefully Trump understands and this may be helped by Hegseth understanding that leaving any of the IRGC in place will ultimately lead to more death and a longer transition of power. Kill all mullahs, ayatollahs and all the IRGC you can find.
But killing those "religious" leaders will not be supported by our friends in the ME, at least not publicly. But i think we need to do it anyways. The ayatollahs believe they are "reincarnation" of old Muslim prophets. To say they are fanatical does not seem sufficient.
Our "friends in the ME" want Iran's oil to stay sanctioned and off the market and any popular uprising to fail. A free and prosperous Iran means a glut of oil on the market and an example of what might be possible for other populations living under oppressive rulers in the region if they rise up against their own governments.
Live now.
It's more of a case that they are considerably more quiet at 20Kn vs 30kn. Subs don't like to make noise that might give away their presence, position, or detectable acoustic data about themselves unless it is necessary. I'm sure they probably just hand off responsibility to a boat in the region and do major relocation without a shadowing attack boat in transit. I was just saying there are reasons that -15-20 knots transit is more the norm instead of a faster speed. Lots of factors have to be adjusted for to go faster. They'll get there with more fuel to operate on station while logistics are adjusted to accommodate.
MouthBQ98 said:
It's more of a case that they are considerably more quiet at 20Kn vs 30kn. Subs don't like to make noise that might give away their presence, position, or detectable acoustic data about themselves unless it is necessary. I'm sure they probably just hand off responsibility to a boat in the region and do major relocation without a shadowing attack boat in transit. I was just saying there are reasons that -15-20 knots transit is more the norm instead of a faster speed. Lots of factors have to be adjusted for to go faster. They'll get there with more fuel to operate on station while logistics are adjusted to accommodate.
Maybe a sub that snuggles up to an entire carrier group it can make as much noise as it wants.
TheGifGuy said:
Tehran is a fun show, I would recommend it and they just came out with a 3rd season.
I remember watching homeland with my parents back in the day and it started good but I never finished it.
Can confirm that both are fun to watch.
Good show but Mossad can't get anything right in the show. Every plan they try fails almost to the point the show becomes unwatchable
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74OA said:
Massive ongoing surge of US military assets into the Middle East. Something's about to go down.
IRAN?
CONTINUING
I think Trump talk of negotiations is just a smoke screen, which not many really believe at all.
I don't think CSG-3 is an 'armada' either, but at this point it should be in the area very shortly.
🚨 Breaking: Iran's Chief Prosecutor denied that the execution of 800 protesters has been cancelled. He called the claim “completely false” and referred to Trump's statements as “nonsense”.
— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) January 23, 2026
They will soon find out 💥 pic.twitter.com/ESHSUKT2eT
If a senior Iranian diplomat at the UN just defected, that’s not just one person switching sides—it’s a canary in the coal mine for regime stability.
— Vishwesh S Deshmukkh (@VishweshIndia) January 23, 2026
Diplomats defect when they:
1.See internal collapse coming and want out before it’s too late
2.Have access to intelligence that…
I don't think CSG-3 is an 'armada' either, but at this point it should be in the area very shortly.
Defecting means almost certain death for that man's family. Hell, the IRGC killed a frenchy bulldog without hesitation in Tehran. They are worse than ruthless, they are evil.
For reference, the 8lb bulldog had more in him than 10,000 frenchmen. Just sayin…
For reference, the 8lb bulldog had more in him than 10,000 frenchmen. Just sayin…
Squadron7 said:MouthBQ98 said:
It's more of a case that they are considerably more quiet at 20Kn vs 30kn. Subs don't like to make noise that might give away their presence, position, or detectable acoustic data about themselves unless it is necessary. I'm sure they probably just hand off responsibility to a boat in the region and do major relocation without a shadowing attack boat in transit. I was just saying there are reasons that -15-20 knots transit is more the norm instead of a faster speed. Lots of factors have to be adjusted for to go faster. They'll get there with more fuel to operate on station while logistics are adjusted to accommodate.
Maybe a sub that snuggles up to an entire carrier group it can make as much noise as it wants.
Not likely. Each ship makes its own acoustic signature. Anything out of the ordinary could be documented or tracked if anyone is paying attention. Of course, subs aren't perfectly quiet, they are just more quiet than the ambient noise around them.
Pretty credible reporting source.
Israel leading military commentator, Amos Harel, writes today that Israel military (mostly airforce, intel and home command) finished its preparations for a possible U.S. strike and an Iranian retaliation against Israel. The assessment in Israel is that Trump will decide to…
— Nadav Pollak (@NadavPollak) January 23, 2026
The only way I see strikes against Iranian targets accomplishing anything is if the CIA coordinated some kind of Bay of Pigs type of operation with Iranian opposition militia training somewhere to put boots on the ground. The only other scenario I could see is if we are working with a rogue General in their military that sees the regime crumbling and wants to be on the winning side and can get troops to follow him
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bonfarr said:
The only way I see strikes against Iranian targets accomplishing anything is if the CIA coordinated some kind of Bay of Pigs type of operation with Iranian opposition militia training somewhere to put boots on the ground. The only other scenario I could see is if we are working with a rogue General in their military that sees the regime crumbling and wants to be on the winning side and can get troops to follow him
If Mossad is involved with coordinating intelligence, I suspect we will have very good target information. Did you forget how thoroughly effective Israel was at this just a short time ago?
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
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In Europe: Left wing, right wing...same bird.
We can kill a high number of our targets but what then? You won't kill them all and there will likely be enough hardliners left to keep the regime going by escalating the violence. There has to be some kind of strong opposition on the ground after any strikes for it to have a lasting effect.
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The only issue would be how many assets they burned during the previous actions. I am confident Mossad has this covered, but I could see maybe where their local sources took a hit, pun intended, from Israeli actions over the past couple years.
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