Protests Erupt across Iran

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Ferg said:

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Dave Robicheaux said:

Come on Vance. The time has come

Vance is such a disappointment on many levels.

Should have been Rubio!~

No, Rubio is getting the best experience/preparation for 28 right where he is.
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Raiderjay said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-cancels-all-meetings-iran-calls-protesters-take-over-country

Trump cancels all meetings with Iran, calls on protesters to 'take over' the country

Here we go.....
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TAMUallen said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

Yes. And, Trump has promised to 'do something' and I suspect he is not playing around with this much longer. But don't take my word for it:



Good Trump.


What will he do though?

My two-cents, the White House is riding a high wave following two very successful operations that were done totally covertly.

The posturing these last few days has been anything but covert and the element of surprise is essentially impossible for conventional targets unless unconventional methods are used. Very little is gained and sooo much can be lost by putting US air forces in play and possibly shot down because the regime is actively looking at the skies.

I'm inclined more to believe there could be a cyber attack disabling regime surveillance and communication systems or distributed missile (or drone?) launch disabling military stations, or possibly supporting Israeli aerial combatants. Actions which do not upend the ability of a new government to take back the reins of power and engender more calamity if/when the regime falls and a political transition happens.

The reality is there's very little that can be meaningfully done by one-off strikes given the whole of government needs to come down for the protestors to win out, so psychological support and undercutting the regime's ability to apply force would be the biggest 'bang for your buck' in my opinion.

Last note: I really do wonder what was loaded in all those C-17 transport planes which crossed the Atlantic a week ago. Seems like a lot just to take the ghost tanker fleeing Venezuela.


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What-a-doodle doing whack-a-doodle things. Not that shocking.


It's best to be skeptical of @sentdefender when Trump administration is involved though. Severe case of TDS. Not many folks in Iran are looking to VOA broadcasts, either. And no, I don't think I really think Lake is 'great' at this but I am just dubious about this claim on X.
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Regardless of the accuracy of these numbers, it appears that Iranians are earning their freedom the hard way. But they must win the initial revolution by themselves if they want full ownership of whatever rises from the ashes.

"With phone lines opening back up for calls from inside the Islamic Republic, two sources, including one inside Iran, told CBS News on Tuesday that at least 12,000, and possibly as many as 20,000 people have been killed."

DEATHS
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This loser fake historian has gone off the deep end. First he's mad about how immigration does its job, now mad Trump supports the protestors in Iran

Guess he forgot Trump pardoned all of these J6 people as one of his first acts in office.


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LMCane
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the same people who were whining the USA could never stop the Iranian nuclear program

are the same ones whining the USA cannot end a 78 year old Muslim dictator who literally hated by 80% of his own population!
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By "glass" I assume you mean nuclear weapons? That would be a huge mistake from a pr perspective. Leave the new country to be with large potholes of nuclear no man's land and also there would be significant and long term collateral damage . It's also imo not necessary. Khameini and his evil gang are at best going to lose power and probably are going to get eliminated one way or another as well. Iranian people need some help to close the deal but not that.
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Raiderjay said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-cancels-all-meetings-iran-calls-protesters-take-over-country

Trump cancels all meetings with Iran, calls on protesters to 'take over' the country

Here we go.....

THAT is how you instigate an insurrection!
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Fitch said:




Last note: I really do wonder what was loaded in all those C-17 transport planes which crossed the Atlantic a week ago. Seems like a lot just to take the ghost tanker fleeing Venezuela.





Bacon, lots of bacon.....



I kid, I kid
halfastros81
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Don't waste the bacon. Just take the useless pig guts.
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nortex97 said:

Rossticus said:

AtticusMatlock said:




What-a-doodle doing whack-a-doodle things. Not that shocking.


It's best to be skeptical of @sentdefender when Trump administration is involved though. Severe case of TDS. Not many folks in Iran are looking to VOA broadcasts, either. And no, I don't think I really think Lake is 'great' at this but I am just dubious about this claim on X.


I'll qualify it as "If true". To your point, normally they wouldn't be listening to info through those channels but with all data and communications having been severed within Iran, I think it would have excellent opportunity as a valuable info op to provide updates and communications to the protesters (hell, revolutionaries at this point) which they will undoubtedly be seeking out via every potential source. Again, IF this is true.
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halfastros81 said:

Don't waste the bacon. Just take the useless pig guts.

Birth rates would skyrocket. Maybe pigs feat and ears?
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I would think by the 16th the Ayatollah will be in Russia with Bashar Al Assad
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TommyBrady said:

I would think by the 16th the Ayatollah will be in Russia with Bashar Al Assad

Khameini is 78 and the last of the true believers

he will not leave Iran alive.

hopefully some of his henchmen are heading for the exits now before we take out all their runways.
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No prisoners. All members of the IGRC have to be eliminated, along with all clerics, mullahs, ayatollahs, etc.

Its the only way.
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The new blood now leading the IRGC (after Israel took out most of the leadership last summer) have spent half of their training in religious studies. Any abdication by the mullahs would still result in a new government fighting off jihadi militias led by these guys. It's a crappy situation.
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Let's invade Eye-Ran and make it Great Again!
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Would imply stuff.
Rossticus
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This is quite interesting, yet not at all surprising. I wonder if we've seen any impact on US X influence accounts.

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Man I like him. Now?


He out of all people should know this has to be done. He knows it could have been prevented. He should know it was intentionally done by the communists. Not Iran, this stuff here on our own soil.

No more respect for him. Ugh.
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nortex97 said:


Would imply stuff.


Regardless it's massive signaling.
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You gotta think the Ayatollah and his cronies have seen the Qaddafi video.
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"The end game is to win."
Quote:

Trump: "I haven't heard about the hanging. If they hang them, you're going to see some things that - I don't know what your, where you come from and what your thought process is - but you'll perhaps be very happy."

Dokoupil: "What do you mean by that?"

Trump: "We will take very strong action. If they do such a thing, we will take very strong action."

Dokoupil: "And this strong action you're talking about, what's the end game?"

Trump: "The end game is to win. I like winning. And we're winning."

Dokoupil: "How do you define that in Iran?"

Trump: "Well, let's define it in Venezuela. Let's define it with al-Baghdadi. He was wiped out. Let's define it with Soleimani. And let's define it in Iran, where we wiped out their Iran nuclear threat in a period of about fifteen minutes once the B-2s got there. And that was a complete obliteration, as it turns out, which is what I said initially. Then some questioned it, and they said, you know, Trump was right. So we've been right about everything. We don't want to see what's happening in Iran happen. And, you know, if they want to have protests, that's one thing. When they start killing thousands of people, and now you're telling me about hanging, we'll see how that works out for them. It's not going to work out good."

I mean, yeah, that is true.
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It will very interesting to see how the US military tries to help the Iranian people? Im ready to see what we do? do they go directly after the regime? I would think most of their leaders are deep deep down inside bunkers somewhere by now?
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fullback44 said:

It will very interesting to see how the US military tries to help the Iranian people? Im ready to see what we do? do they go directly after the regime? I would think most of their leaders are deep deep down inside bunkers somewhere by now?


I hope their bunkers are better than their top secret, no one can touch, nuclear facilities. If I was them, I wouldn't trust a bunker
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I don't post this guy's tweets as necessarily gospel, he does have some opinions. But he's a pretty good news aggregator.



Seeing some other reports that Trump stayed late in the Oval Office today.
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TacosaurusRex said:

fullback44 said:

It will very interesting to see how the US military tries to help the Iranian people? Im ready to see what we do? do they go directly after the regime? I would think most of their leaders are deep deep down inside bunkers somewhere by now?


I hope their bunkers are better than their top secret, no one can touch, nuclear facilities. If I was them, I wouldn't trust a bunker

Fake News said that we cannot be sure of the damage and Iran may have moved the enriched uranium and Trump lied about it and wasted money.
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Also seeing a lot of things floated around X that Saudi Arabia and Qatar do not want the US to launch strikes but UAE and Bahrain haven't voiced opposition. All of it is chatter from random accounts that I'm not sure are reliable. Unlikely Saudi Arabia would allow the US to use their airspace.

Israel has already made public statement saying they would not be involved in any offensive operation but would be prepared to defend and respond if Iran chooses to attack Israel.
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Rossticus
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I can certainly understand a decision not to launch strikes or get involved. The problem is that Trump has continued to strongly imply incoming US support for the Iranian people. It will be a terrible look if we back off and allow the regime to continue slaughtering people until they regain control.

If you want to see a world where everyone, including allies, becomes hyper cynical of American motives and trustworthiness then that's one way to get the snowball rolling downhill. Not saying what actions are right, wrong, or otherwise for us to take. Just what I expect to happen if we choose that course.
 
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