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nomad2007 said:

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There is so much misinformation and outright fake stuff coming out from this on both sides, that I don't think we'll see the truth until the trial.

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stabbed and dead, what other truth are we looking for?

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I think there's an awful lot the investigators are looking for right now that go well past "person stabbed, person dead".

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Street Fighter said:

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Im sure its true the twins jumped and beat the crap out of him and FAFO. Totally believable.

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Eye witness accounts say they were pushing him out of their tent. They were probably aggressive but it doesn't sound like they were "jumping" him. Dick move, but not grounds for murder.

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Seems like there's more facts coming out slowly and that no one HERE knows what actually happened. Because it now appears a good bit of what was discussed on this board before the thread disappeared isn't factual accounting.

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What we know if that a 2 kids got into a skirmish under a team tent at a track meet and one kid pulled and knife and stabbed the other kid and killed him.

There is NO reason (unless the deceased pulled a weapon first) that he should have been stabbed.

They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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stabbed and dead, what other truth are we looking for?

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I think there's an awful lot the investigators are looking for right now that go well past "person stabbed, person dead".

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Maybe put it in the Conspiracy Theory thread.

Everything I have seen that describes the scene and the incident has been consistent. There have been people not on scene who have said all sorts of things to defend the murderer, but they have been wild speculation and lies.

nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

Im Gipper said:

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nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

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I'm not investigating the crime, so how can I 'suggest' facts? I only suggested they investigate and parse through the speculation and misinformation.

The investigators are absolutely looking for more than is publicly available which we will find out at a trial.

Saying we'll know the truth at a trial isn't a weird thing to say. Or it didn't used to be.

I read a report that said the police were talking to 20-30 witnesses. The truth is going to come out but a big part of me thinks that if there was any real evidence that this was self defense, that "them twins was bullying Karmello," or that he was anything other than the instigator, his bond would have been dropped below the initial $1,000,000 and we would have heard something.

The kid is going to prison, almost certainly for over a decade. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen.

It's outrageous (and typical) that there's a group of people defending the kid. Always victim mentality, always willing to excuse violence when it goes against the race they don't care about. Tale as old as time.

But at the end of the day, this kid is going to jail. There were tons of witnesses there who will all tell the same story and that part will be interesting. If the kid was getting pushed around first it could definitely mean less years.

But there's no clean get out free card here. Whether he was pushed or not, this is an overreaction in every sense of the word. The only question is will he get his chance at parole in 10-15 years or 25-30 years

Again, we already know the truth of what happened. Unless you think the police report has lies in it. I don't think you are saying that.

What you want are details behind the incident. Most of which just paint a picture. They aren't going to move the needle on his guilt or any self-defense claim.

nomad2007 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

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I'm not investigating the crime, so how can I 'suggest' facts? I only suggested they investigate and parse through the speculation and misinformation.

The investigators are absolutely looking for more than is publicly available which we will find out at a trial.

Saying we'll know the truth at a trial isn't a weird thing to say. Or it didn't used to be.

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I don't think you need to be an investigator to suggest what facts you would be interested in determining.

From what I've seen, the facts have mostly lined up with the original communications. Guy was sitting where he shouldn't, told to leave, refused, white kid puts hands on him, black kid pulls a knife and stabs him, tosses the knife and runs.

The only thing I've seen differently is from sympathy grifters trying to get money out of the white guilt crowd. I've seen zero evidence of their claims. Have you?

People dont bring a knife big enough to kill someone when they are what society calls "well rounded model citizens." Trouble makers looking to inflict damage bring knives to track meets.

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nomad2007 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

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I'm not investigating the crime, so how can I 'suggest' facts? I only suggested they investigate and parse through the speculation and misinformation.

The investigators are absolutely looking for more than is publicly available which we will find out at a trial.

Saying we'll know the truth at a trial isn't a weird thing to say. Or it didn't used to be.

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I don't think you need to be an investigator to suggest what facts you would be interested in determining.

From what I've seen, the facts have mostly lined up with the original communications. Guy was sitting where he shouldn't, told to leave, refused, white kid puts hands on him, black kid pulls a knife and stabs him, tosses the knife and runs.

The only thing I've seen differently is from sympathy grifters trying to get money out of the white guilt crowd. I've seen zero evidence of their claims. Have you?

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No white guiters are donating to this. It's all white-hating black people who will literally justify anything violent happening against a white person by a black person, no matter what the evidence is. Full stop.

our degenerate society has made it way too easy to justify murder over any argument or confrontation. ...no one knows or wants to know how to problem solve.... either that, or killing is now an acceptable solution to any problem.

we have lost god. we have lost morality. we have lost a sense of right vs wrong. we have lost so much value for human life. ...and all of that seems exponentially more prevalent in one subculture of this country. blame progressive liberalism for all but completely removing god and religion as well as dads and nuclear families from society. blame socialist democrat policies for incentivizing laziness, entitlement, free stuff for all, and people justifying all their mistakes and bad actions with woe-is-me victimhood. blame a degenerate subculture that adores and glorifies violence, murder, disrespect, and selfishness as if that is what a man is supposed to be.

it's not going to change. it can't go back in the box. it can only get worse.

hug your children every day and pray for and with them. you never know what sort of sick, ignorant, degenerate souls they might encounter at any time or how quickly and easily one could snap without any consideration for their lives.

I say let em spend their money. The vast majority of it will probably be grifted away. Unless there is something I'm missing, this kid is not being acquitted and will likely spend the next 20+ years in prison.

I only wish general deterrence worked and that this would reduce crime. But the fact is, nobody will learn a thing about this. The only thing that might change is an erosion of privacy and we will be subject to more searches at events.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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nomad2007 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

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I'm not investigating the crime, so how can I 'suggest' facts? I only suggested they investigate and parse through the speculation and misinformation.

The investigators are absolutely looking for more than is publicly available which we will find out at a trial.

Saying we'll know the truth at a trial isn't a weird thing to say. Or it didn't used to be.

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I don't think you need to be an investigator to suggest what facts you would be interested in determining.

From what I've seen, the facts have mostly lined up with the original communications. Guy was sitting where he shouldn't, told to leave, refused, white kid puts hands on him, black kid pulls a knife and stabs him, tosses the knife and runs.

The only thing I've seen differently is from sympathy grifters trying to get money out of the white guilt crowd. I've seen zero evidence of their claims. Have you?

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No white guiters are donating to this. It's all white-hating black people who will literally justify anything violent happening against a white person by a black person, no matter what the evidence is. Full stop.

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Just a reminder, only 53% of blacks agree with the statement "it's ok to be white"

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/poll-finds-over-a-quarter-of-black-americans-dont-think-its-okay-to-be-white-scott-adams-dilbert

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The poll asked whether respondents agreed or disagreed with the statement and found that only 53% of the Black Americans said they agreed, while 47% indicated they either disagreed or were not sure.

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Im Gipper said:

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nomad2007 said:

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They'll use a lot more than the police report in the trial. Some of y'all are so sensitive you think anyone who wants to know more is defending Anthony. Not the case. Relax.

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Stop projecting.

I do not think you are defending him. I also want to know more.

But stop with the "there are so many more facts we need to know." There really aren't. And when I asked you to suggest some, you could not.

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Yeah, the kid went where he went with a knife for a reason. I don't care if the "facts" show that he was called names, abused as a child, teased at school, is mentally ill, nor how old he is. He took a life and I wish he had to forfeit his, and in short order.

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I say let em spend their money. The vast majority of it will probably be grifted away. Unless there is something I'm missing, this kid is not being acquitted and will likely spend the next 20+ years in prison.

I only wish general deterrence worked and that this would reduce crime. But the fact is, nobody will learn a thing about this. The only thing that might change is an erosion of privacy and we will be subject to more searches at events.

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And most will say he never had a chance at a fair trial and was unjustly convicted by a racist society. People who have decided it was self defense have already made up their minds and no amount of facts coming out will change that. Witnesses lied; evidence was withheld. He didn't do anything wrong.

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People dont bring a knife big enough to kill someone when they are what society calls "well rounded model citizens." Trouble makers looking to inflict damage bring knives to track meets.

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Precisely what knife size is "big enough to kill someone"? I carry a knife with a 4" blade on a daily basis. I guarantee I could kill with it. I can also open a beer bottle, bottle of wine, or junction box with it. Your argument is ridiculous, even if Anthony is guilty of premeditated murder.

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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People dont bring a knife big enough to kill someone when they are what society calls "well rounded model citizens." Trouble makers looking to inflict damage bring knives to track meets.

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Precisely what knife size is "big enough to kill someone"? I carry a knife with a 4" blade on a daily basis. I guarantee I could kill with it. I can also open a beer bottle, bottle of wine, or junction box with it. Your argument is ridiculous, even if Anthony is guilty of premeditated murder.

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I carry a small pocket knife that isn't going to kill anyone (wihtout me putting in serious effort). Anything over 3 inches will definitely kill someone. It is one thing to carry a small folder. I am guessing KA had a good sized knife that he knew he could kill with. Flame away.

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Precisely what knife size is "big enough to kill someone"? I carry a knife with a 4" blade on a daily basis. I guarantee I could kill with it. I can also open a beer bottle, bottle of wine, or junction box with it. Your argument is ridiculous, even if Anthony is guilty of premeditated murder.

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People with good intentions don't bring one to school. Kids with knives at school get arrested these days, and rightfully so.

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How long before melo says he was called n word?

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Can you imagine the chaos in the streets and how many people would die in America each year if you were allowed to stab to kill another for having your feelings hurt with language?

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The kid is going to prison, almost certainly for over a decade. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen.The kid is going to prison, almost certainly for over a decade. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen.

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It is all about not getting his respek.

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The kid is going to prison, almost certainly for over a decade. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen.The kid is going to prison, almost certainly for over a decade. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen.

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It is all about not getting his respek.

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He has Aretha for his ring tone.

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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chickencoupe16 said:

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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People dont bring a knife big enough to kill someone when they are what society calls "well rounded model citizens." Trouble makers looking to inflict damage bring knives to track meets.

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Precisely what knife size is "big enough to kill someone"? I carry a knife with a 4" blade on a daily basis. I guarantee I could kill with it. I can also open a beer bottle, bottle of wine, or junction box with it. Your argument is ridiculous, even if Anthony is guilty of premeditated murder.

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I carry a small pocket knife that isn't going to kill anyone (wihtout me putting in serious effort). Anything over 3 inches will definitely kill someone. It is one thing to carry a small folder. I am guessing KA had a good sized knife that he knew he could kill with. Flame away.

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Nikolai Miu used this knife to kill one and seriously wound another in less than a minute. You underestimate how dangerous even a "small folder" is. If you're unfamiliar with Nikolai Miu, watch the video of the Apple River stabbing.

I'm not saying Anthony was a Boy Scout and had the knife for legitimate reasons but he could have.

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Precisely what knife size is "big enough to kill someone"? I carry a knife with a 4" blade on a daily basis. I guarantee I could kill with it. I can also open a beer bottle, bottle of wine, or junction box with it. Your argument is ridiculous, even if Anthony is guilty of premeditated murder.

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People with good intentions don't bring one to school. Kids with knives at school get arrested these days, and rightfully so.

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I carried a pocket knife to school and had plenty of friends that did as well. It often wasn't even a conscious decision but rather a habit the same as putting my keys or phone into my pocket when getting dressed in the morning.

What kind of knife did he have?

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I'm not saying Anthony was a boy scout and had the knife for legitimate reasons but he could have.

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He did NOT have a knife on school property for legitimate reasons.

He absolutely didn't go sit under another team's tent for legitimate reasons.

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I carried a pocket knife to school and had plenty of friends that did as well. It often wasn't even a conscious decision but rather a habit the same as putting my keys or phone into my pocket when getting dressed in the morning.

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Today is not 20 years ago. It is an arrestable offense today.

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I'm not saying Anthony was a boy scout and had the knife for legitimate reasons but he could have.

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He did NOT have a knife on school property for legitimate reasons.

He absolutely didn't go sit under another team's tent for legitimate reasons.

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I'm guessing you're correct and I'd even bet a small sum on it, but I'd challenge you to prove it.