This article gives a somber but not too deflating assessment of the situation.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19489274/deron-williams-re-signs-with-the-nets-where-do-the-mavericks-go-now

From listening to the Ticket this morning, it sounds like they are going to try to resign Kidd and West, and give West more time at PG (keep Kidd to less than 25 min). They might as well try to resign Mahimi, but I don't know if they will.

That would give us something like:

1) Kidd/West/Beaubois
2) West/Carter/Cunningham/Jones
3) Marion/Carter/Crawford
4) Dirk/Wright
5) Mahimi/Haywood/Wright/James

Eh, nothing to get too jazzed about. Pretty much the same as last year but without Jet and with the rookies. Who knows, maybe we make it to the first round again. Oh well, at least there will be flexibility in the future.

I think the Mavs have to sit out another year and keep under the cap in hopes of getting someone next year. I don't think there are enough pieces they could get to make them competitive this year. Only other option I see is to blow it up.

At this point we need to go for young talent. There are a couple guys still out there I would like to see us go after.

One being Jerryd Bayless. He's no world beater but he's not a spare like Ramon Sessions, and it could be a snag him before he breaks out type of situation. He's a RFA with the Raptors, who are hot on Kyle Lowry. We could try and sign him as a FA or be a 3rd team in a trade between the Rockets and Raptors, taking on someone like Calderon's stupid contract with a S&T on Bayless.

They remind me of the Cowboys in Aikman's final days. They still could be a 500 team, or slightly better and sneak into the playoffs this year though.

However, they know they need to start looking at building blocks for the future. Williams wasn't it. Maybe Paul will be next year. They also need to be more opportunistic. Chandler fell into their lap last year and they let him walk. Good PGs and Cs are hard to come by.

This is how their 3D plan worked out.

That team has no offense outside of Dirk. I don't think there is a right decision at this point. That ship sailed when they let Chandler go. There is no reason for Howard/CP3 to show up next year to play with a 35 year old Dirk. So what is the point now of all the financial flexibility they saved up? They don't have any trade assets and they don't draft in the lottery. How can they get better? I think they are now in NBA purgatory until they tank but Dirk is still too good for that.

Either that or we shut down Dirk with an "injury" 10 games in and go for Nerlens Noel.

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One being Jerryd Bayless. He's no world beater but he's not a spare like Ramon Sessions, and it could be a snag him before he breaks out type of situation. He's a RFA with the Raptors, who are hot on Kyle Lowry. We could try and sign him as a FA or be a 3rd team in a trade between the Rockets and Raptors, taking on someone like Calderon's stupid contract with a S&T on Bayless.

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I haven't heard anything on Bayless, but I have heard that there is interest in Aaron Brooks out of Phoenix. I guess he played in China last year and is now a FA for all practical purposes. Brooks was pretty good in '09-10. Not sure what happened in '10-11.

Lowry, Kidd, Delonte, CJ Miles, Camby, A Randolph

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I think they are now in NBA purgatory until they tank but Dirk is still too good for that.

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I agree. That's why I think they are much like the Cowboys in the late 90s under Aikman. Dirk might be able to get them to the playoffs (like Aikman did before the concussions in 2000) but not much more.

Phoenix extended a qualifying offer to Aaron Brooks. Depends on how much we want to pay there. You know what you're getting with Brooks... Bayless is more of gamble in the sense that he could break out or be a career backup. FWIW Kevin Love said the player he most expects to break out is Bayless - just too talented.

Anthony Randolph I would be on board with, UFA. Would like to see Delonte get re-signed as well.

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Bayless is more of gamble in the sense that he could break out or be a career backup. FWIW Kevin Love said the player he most expects to break out is Bayless - just too talented.

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Interesting.

I like Randolph and West as well. Randolph has a ton of potential. West, because if nothing else he is a nut that can lighten the mood. Plus he is of the hybrid PG-SG mold that is the fad these days.

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I would much rather they blow it up and start rebuilding now then stay on the current path. Even in the summer of 2013 the Mavs wont be able to land Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. Outside of pure $$ alone why would they go to an aging Mavs core whos best days are behind them?

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I would much rather they blow it up and start rebuilding now then stay on the current path. Even in the summer of 2013 the Mavs wont be able to land Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. Outside of pure $$ alone why would they go to an aging Mavs core whos best days are behind them?

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It's amazing that I said the same thing, but because I'm not a mavs fan I get the angry, pissy mav fan response. In fact, I said this when they didn't bring back Chandler and the crew for another title run, which was so stupid. Try to rationlize it all you want w/ the "financial flexibility" argument; what's that flexibility doing for them now?

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It's amazing that I said the same thing, but because I'm not a mavs fan I get the angry, pissy mav fan response. In fact, I said this when they didn't bring back Chandler and the crew for another title run, which was so stupid. Try to rationlize it all you want w/ the "financial flexibility" argument; what's that flexibility doing for them now?

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Okay, that has to be one of the dumbest posts I have read on this board.

Yeah, blow up a team right after it wins a championship. Great thinking.

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They remind me of the Cowboys in Aikman's final days. They still could be a 500 team, or slightly better and sneak into the playoffs this year though.

However, they know they need to start looking at building blocks for the future. Williams wasn't it. Maybe Paul will be next year. They also need to be more opportunistic. Chandler fell into their lap last year and they let him walk. Good PGs and Cs are hard to come by.

This is how their 3D plan worked out.

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This is absolutely the complete opposite of the late 90s Cowboys. Jerry kept hanging on to the triplets and the glory days of Jimmy Johnson trying to extend his time in the sun. And all it did was drive the organization into the ground.

Cuban and Donnie looked at this team last year and said, "Great! We won a title! But what's next?" Dirk is on the back side of his career and what does the post-Dirk era look like? So they got flexible so they can start moving towards the future in a post-Dirk world. And while it might "sacrifice" the rest of Dirk's career, the Mavericks franchise has to look past the next 3 and look at the next 15.

I fully believe that if the Mavericks would have brought back Tyson and JJ and all the rest they wouldn't have won the title this year. I'm not sure they would have even gotten to the WCF. Hell, I bet if you re-ran the 2011 playoffs again, the Mavs don't win the title in more than about 30% of the trials. But that's sports. Resigning Chandler would have handicapped this team in the long term while not making you THAT much better in the short term.

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This is absolutely the complete opposite of the late 90s Cowboys. Jerry kept hanging on to the triplets and the glory days of Jimmy Johnson trying to extend his time in the sun. And all it did was drive the organization into the ground.

Cuban and Donnie looked at this team last year and said, "Great! We won a title! But what's next?" Dirk is on the back side of his career and what does the post-Dirk era look like? So they got flexible so they can start moving towards the future in a post-Dirk world. And while it might "sacrifice" the rest of Dirk's career, the Mavericks franchise has to look past the next 3 and look at the next 15.

I fully believe that if the Mavericks would have brought back Tyson and JJ and all the rest they wouldn't have won the title this year. I'm not sure they would have even gotten to the WCF. Hell, I bet if you re-ran the 2011 playoffs again, the Mavs don't win the title in more than about 30% of the trials. But that's sports. Resigning Chandler would have handicapped this team in the long term while not making you THAT much better in the short term.

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As far as a vision. Yes. As far as results. Not likely.

Cuban obviously got ahead of himself. Dirk isn't getting any younger, and you don't pass up on quality centers. That's just stupid.

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Okay, that has to be one of the dumbest posts I have read on this board.

Yeah, blow up a team right after it wins a championship. Great thinking.

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You must've missed the part where I said "...WHEN THEY DIDN'T BRING BACK CHANDLER AND THE CREW."...In essence, when Cuban didn't bring back perhaps the most important piece of the team that won said championship, he did start to blow it up...what I said was to finish the job.

But good job looking completely stupid. Next time, try and read the post before commenting on it.

The blue print for franchise stability and success is here locally...but I doubt Cuban, Carlisle, and Dirk have the patience to pull off what Nolan and JD have done in Arlington.

1) Realize you aren't a true contender, even with two prime years left of Dirk.

2). Get younger and athletic through drafting and scouting young talent

3) Set a 3-4 year goal: ie top 3 seed in the West by 2015 or 2016.

4) Execute rebuilding plan...it will hurt early...but won't hurt long if you accept it early

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2). Get younger and athletic through drafting and scouting young talent

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That will be a huge issue for the mavericks moving forward. They draft horribly. I'm not sure if they jsut don't depend on the draft, or are incapable of utilizing it properly, but for whatever reason they miss more than hit in the NBA draft. Time will tell if they can start to change that, but if history is any indication, they'll have a hard time using the draft ala the Rangers.

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You must've missed the part where I said "...WHEN THEY DIDN'T BRING BACK CHANDLER AND THE CREW."...In essence, when Cuban didn't bring back perhaps the most important piece of the team that won said championship, he did start to blow it up...what I said was to finish the job.

But good job looking completely stupid. Next time, try and read the post before commenting on it.

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lol. Maybe if you weren't so obnoxious and could articulate your thoughts more clearly people wouldn't laugh at you.

Just a thought.

1. Trade Dirk as a package of other junk for Dwight Howard.

2. Pray Dwight re-signs.

3a) If he does, build around him.

3b) if he doesn't, suck and go back to the draft.

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The blue print for franchise stability and success is here locally...but I doubt Cuban, Carlisle, and Dirk have the patience to pull off what Nolan and JD have done in Arlington.

1) Realize you aren't a true contender, even with two prime years left of Dirk.

2). Get younger and athletic through drafting and scouting young talent

3) Set a 3-4 year goal: ie top 3 seed in the West by 2015 or 2016.

4) Execute rebuilding plan...it will hurt early...but won't hurt long if you accept it early

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They definitely get #2. And if they could of pulled off the DWill thing and brought in a 5, they could have been a contender (#1). But they swung and missed so that boat has left.

Although I do agree. Now they need to start looking at bringing in the building blocks for the future. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening until after '13-14 because of #1.

Cuban really misplayed the CBA imo. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets tired of the whole thing and sells the team in the next couple of years. At that point there will be a wholesale rebuilding effort.

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Where do the Mavs go now?

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Probably to the bottom of the SW standings.

People that say we should trade Dirk

He has a no trade clause. Dirk isn't going anywhere unless he wants too.

Although, maybe he wouldn't mind retiring in Florida. Lord knows many have.

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lol. Maybe if you weren't so obnoxious and could articulate your thoughts more clearly people wouldn't laugh at you.

Just a thought.

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Um...

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It's amazing that I said the same thing, but because I'm not a mavs fan I get the angry, pissy mav fan response. In fact, I said this when they didn't bring back Chandler and the crew for another title run, which was so stupid. Try to rationlize it all you want w/ the "financial flexibility" argument; what's that flexibility doing for them now?

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Please inform me of a better, more articulate, less obnoxious way to say that so you'd have understood it better. Better yet, please indicate which part was confused you the most...

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The blue print for franchise stability and success is here locally...but I doubt Cuban, Carlisle, and Dirk have the patience to pull off what Nolan and JD have done in Arlington.

1) Realize you aren't a true contender, even with two prime years left of Dirk.

2). Get younger and athletic through drafting and scouting young talent

3) Set a 3-4 year goal: ie top 3 seed in the West by 2015 or 2016.

4) Execute rebuilding plan...it will hurt early...but won't hurt long if you accept it early

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I agree with this plan. Unfortunately it would need to start with trading Dirk for young players/draft picks to get it started. That alone would shorten the rebuilding curve by 1-2 years.

Dirk needs to pull a David Robinson and fake an injury.

Lowry to the Raptors.

Unless Calderon gets amnestied, Bayless (RFA) is in play. At the very least the Mavs need a backup PG, so this is about as low risk high reward as it can get. We'll probably sign Raymond Felton or some stupid sh-t though.

All focus should still be on acquiring a max level superstar player to complement Dirk - and now forget about cap space. It has to be a trade. So get assets that can be used in a Dwight Howard trade and convince him to stay. As long as we have Dirk it's possible. I dont give a **** what role players are signed as long as they are decent contracts that can be quickly traded. Probably better to miss the playoffs and get a good lottery pick as another asset like Boston 07 when they made their trades.

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Kidd will re-sign with the Mavs. 3 year 9 mil.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8131387/sources-jason-kidd-close-new-deal-stay-dallas-mavericks

I look for them to re-sign West next.

Whatever happened to Roddy? Is it just a matter on inconsistency? Some days he looks really good. Others...

Still talented as hell but plays out of control and he's a turnover machine. Two things that are not conducive to running Carlisle's offense.

You would think Kidd would be an ideal mentor for him. Maybe he is late bloomer.

Twitterverse exploding with rumors that Jason Kidd changed his mind and will now sign with the Knicks.