Where do the Mavs go now?

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3 William 56
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AG
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Isn't everyone in the league? Seriously, one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on this board.


Really, because I could say the same thing about your post.

While I realize that everyone in the NBA turned a year older, do you not see that turning 34 is a bit different than turning 24? or even 28? If you don't understand the difference in 24 vs 34 than I can't help you.
awinlonghorn
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preppyag, tim duncan is turning 37. how does that help the spurs?
Guitarsoup
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Tim Duncan turned 36 a couple months ago.
AgBeliever
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No, not at all. The Mavs want him. Bringing him back would be a very good thing for the Mavs.



I heard they are looking at using one of their exceptions for 2.5 mil. I don't remember the exact name of the exception though.
AgBeliever
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You and Internetfan have a fool-proof way to argue...you make things up then argue against them completely ignoring what was actually said. Where did I saw the Mavs could be 5th? They have no shot at 5th...the best they can come up with will be 7 or 8 if they get a few lucky bounces and timely injuries on other teams.



Keep telling yourself that pal. Outside of OKC, LA and the Clippers, the Mavs now have as much talent as anyone else in the West. It's quite possible that Carlisle pulls a Pop and puts all these pieces together to make a bad ass team, especially if Kaman can play like he did in '10, and Mayo and Collison play with a chip on their should showing that they deserve to start in the NBA.
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You some how left out the team that had the best record in the west and didn't lose anyone while gaining depth.

[This message has been edited by guitarsoup (edited 7/20/2012 11:03a).]
Judge
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This might be a Mavs thread, but what about the Spurs!

Don't let him get away with that clearly intentional disrespect
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If list img teams worth more talent than the Mavs, the spurs become relevant.
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Outside of OKC, LA and the Clippers, the Mavs now have as much talent as anyone else in the West.

Add San Antonio and Memphis to that list.

[This message has been edited by Ryan34 (edited 7/20/2012 11:34a).]
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preppyag, tim duncan is turning 37. how does that help the spurs?


The same as it affects Dirk...at some point you don't gain experience, but instead start to lose productivity. Duncan had a resurgence this year in the playoffs, but his stats are a far cry from what he used to be, or even up to his career averages. Same with Dirk.

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Keep telling yourself that pal. Outside of OKC, LA and the Clippers, the Mavs now have as much talent as anyone else in the West. It's quite possible that Carlisle pulls a Pop and puts all these pieces together to make a bad ass team, especially if Kaman can play like he did in '10, and Mayo and Collison play with a chip on their should showing that they deserve to start in the NBA


Ok now I've hard it all...so the mavs are now better than San Antonio and Carlisle could "pull a pop"? You do know that Pop is one of the best coaches in the game today, if not the very best. By your own post you admit that Kamen has to revert back to his 2010 and prior form and mayo and collison have to "play with a chip on their shoulder."

The mavs at best will be no better than 7th, ad more than likely fighting to stay in the playoffs by year's end. Spin this offseaons all you want to.

[This message has been edited by prepyag03 (edited 7/20/2012 12:06p).]
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You do know that Pop is one of the best coaches in the game today, if not the very best


Yes, and carlisle is a damn good coach himself.

It's been proven time and time again that the only joy you get is by watching the mavs struggle, you try and deny their success at every turn, and even winning the title didn't shut you up.

Why can't you just move on? I'm sorry Dallas controls so much space in your puny little dome of a head, but maybe if you could get over that every once in a while you would actually enjoy watching your own team play.
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once in a while you would actually enjoy watching your own team play.

She doesn't have a "team". That one time some ever-specific "Mavs fan" called her a frumpy frontrunner in her stitched-together Kobe/Lebron jersey and her little feelings were hurt then and forever.

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The mavs at best will be no better than 7th

These additions by no means make the Mavericks a title contender. But "at their best", the ceiling is as high as the 3rd or 4th seed. The west will be a crap-shoot.

[This message has been edited by Judge (edited 7/20/2012 12:25p).]
3 William 56
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Yes, and carlisle is a damn good coach himself.

It's been proven time and time again that the only joy you get is by watching the mavs struggle, you try and deny their success at every turn, and even winning the title didn't shut you up.

Why can't you just move on? I'm sorry Dallas controls so much space in your puny little dome of a head, but maybe if you could get over that every once in a while you would actually enjoy watching your own team play.


If you'd like me to stop posting on Mavs threads you can do one of the following:

1) Stop starting them

2) Stop making stupid statements like "carlisle could pull a pop" or "Dirk is better than Bird" or "The mavs will sign (insert big name free agent here even though there's no shot at actually signing them)"

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She doesn't have a "team". That one time some ever-specific "Mavs fan" called her a frumpy frontrunner in her stitched-together Kobe/Lebron jersey and her little feelings were hurt then and forever.


I'm a he, but nice try. It might be difficult for you to understand since you have your head so far up Dirk's rear end and say "we" when referring to an organization that could care less about you, but you don't have to have a team to be a fan of basketball.

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These additions by no means make the Mavericks a title contender. But "at their best", the ceiling is as high as the 3rd or 4th seed. The west will be a crap-shoot.


Ok, so now you're saying that at their best the mavs, as currently constructed could be better than one of San Antonio, OKC, LA, and/or LA? Seriously? I should add that to the "if you stop making stupid statements" section of my post...Holy Moly. Prime example
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Looks like I made her angry. Dispose and replace that tampon, stupid b-tch.
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Looks like I made her angry. Dispose and replace that tampon, stupid b-tch.


You didn't...you made me laugh. You really are a good fan of the mavs sir...holding the rope despite all the garbage you're about to endure. I admire you staying on a sinking ship.

Oh, and stupid is calling Carlisle Pop, saying the mavs will be 3-4 seed in the west, and still thinking you have a shot at any big name free agents. It's almost sad, but you're good for a laugh.
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Man, you REALLY get your $11.99 worth of laughing/crying icons each month.
Judge
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prepyag03
posted 10:28a, 05/12/11


And I don't have a team, I just enjoy basketball.

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prepyag03
posted 3:37p, 05/26/11


And for the record, I'm a heat fan so thanks for playing.

Just another fan of basketball.
Goldie Wilson
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Wait...Prepyag is a chick? That actually explains a lot.
3 William 56
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I'm just glad I could give you guys a distraction from how bad the mavs did this offseason and how bad they'll be in 2012. You can focus on me instead how bad your team is.

Shouldn't you be thanking me instead of getting all bent out of shape? I don't understand...
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stitched-together Kobe/Lebron jersey


Oh god I really need the laugh/cry emote right now for this!!!
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stefny5
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I do think this was an upgrade.

I think Dirk moves to his natural 3 position with Brand at 4 and Kama.n at 5. Marion and carter come off bench.
MW03
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Dirk guards the 3 worse than the 4, and that was when he was 7 years younger.
Goldie Wilson
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Dirk guarding a 3. I need to borrow a laugh/cry from prepy
JerryAg
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Why not bring in Greg Oden to guard the point while we're at it?
PatAg
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I was extremely depressed for a while there, then they pulled all these nice moves out their butt. I think we would have to have dirk go insane again to do anything in the playoffs, but at least we will play good basketball most likely.
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I think Dirk moves to his natural 3 position

Wow
jeffdjohnson
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The only reason LeBron hasn't been shut down yet is because Dirk hasn't guarded him before.
TheMasterplan
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Lebron was shut down in last years 2011 NBA Finals.

By Shawn Marion.



[This message has been edited by TheMasterplan (edited 7/22/2012 11:12a).]
stefny5
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You save Marion for the bench. Who has the ability to stop 3 big men like that? In the 4th quarter, when 99% of games are still tight, you bring have the ability to out score a team or play defense. Very versatil team. The hole is a true 3 like Marion 5 years ago.
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Dirk can't play the 3, end of story. Not only can he not guard the 3 AT ALL, but what do you do with Kaman and Brand when Dirk posts up? He'd be getting doubled every time. Dirk can shoot, but he's not a perimeter player. Playing him at the 3 is absurd.
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No no I see where stefny is going with this. While the rest of the NBA goes small, the Mavs should focus on playing PF/C at 1-5. Who could match up against 5 bigs like that? Dirk at the point, Kaman at the 2, Wright at the 3, Brand at the 4, and James at the 5.
Goldie Wilson
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Good plan SA09. Now that you lay out the strategy like that, I'm really glad we didn't sign Deron.
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You some how left out the team that had the best record in the west and didn't lose anyone while gaining depth.




I was speaking on talent. Not on results. I think we all know that talent wise the Spurs are 4th in the West at best. Pop gets the most out of his system and players.

[This message has been edited by AgBeliever (edited 7/23/2012 8:35a).]
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Add San Antonio and Memphis to that list.


I really think with the additions of Collison, Mayo, Kaman and Brand, the Mavs are on the same level talent-wise as both the Spurs and Memphis, or at least very very close.

The Mavs now have 5 starters all capable of putting up double digit points on a consistent basis, as well as 2 or 3 coming off the bench. The Mavs also have 2 All Stars in the Summer League (Do Jo and Crowder) and that is without Cunningham (who GS says was the steal of the draft).

We'll see how Carlisle puts together the team. We all know he is a great coach. Like Judge said, with the talent they have and Carlise coaching, the Mavs could be one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the West. OKC and LA are loaded so it will be hard to compete with those two. The Clippers less so but they still have Paul and Griffin.
 
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