Farmer1906 said:

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The petty things losers fight about.

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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mathguy86 said:

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If case you boys weren't paying attention, win 105 last night clinched the home field throughout the AL playoffs. You can stop losing on purpose to the Yankees.

And congrats to Farmer for correctly predicting that you would not have more wins at the end that we did back in mid August. 78 was the number and you can only tie it. Effectively you were eliminated August 16.

Offseason starts in 2 days, so better change the grips on your golf clubs this weekend.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Now the final question. Can Arlington keep it under 30 games back? It is currently @ 29 with 2 to play. Should be easy enough, right?

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mathguy86 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Now the final question. Can Arlington keep it under 30 games back? It is currently @ 29 with 2 to play. Should be easy enough, right?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. It will be 30 on the nose. The finish with 77 wins.

Bigger question is will they win more than 77 next year?

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PDEMDHC said:

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https://deadspin.com/red-sox-and-rangers-cast-aside-all-dignity-in-battle-ov-1838506027

Good read.

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I'm at a complete loss trying to figure this one out.

200 strikeouts (especially when you pitch 200 innings) isn't even that much of an accomplishment. There are now 23 pitchers that have done it this year alone.

The fact that this was something that was even on the Red Sox radar is just stupid. I can at least see the Rangers/ Minor side of it. They've known this was another wasted season since around the All-Star break, so little things like this are something to look forward to in a long season. Dropping the foul ball on purpose (in the 9th inning in a two-run game) just looks little league, though.

Just kind of embarrassing all around for everyone involved - even the umpire who called an obvious ball a strike just to get it over with.

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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Your mom got deposited over the wall.

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Oh look. Mom smack. How quaint.

I checked with Mom. She's 78 and a bit hard of hearing. Between that and you being 28 games back she said she can hardly hear you. She also said that coming from a Baylor Bear and Arlington supporter she expects that kind of low nonsense.

She also asked if you boys have decided what to do this weekend? If you win even one game against the Yankees we get home field for the AL playoffs. So she wants to know if you support tanking all three games in the hopes of sticking it to your rivals? She expects Guzman to drop a pop fly again so that Judge can get an extra swing.

And she wants to know what you think your chances are of beating Farmer's prediction of your team beating the Astros record back on August 18? That was 78 wins by the way. She doesn't think y'all have it in you.

Last thing she told me was to ask you to run along and go get your shine box and to remind you that your offseason starts in 3 days.

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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Your mom got deposited over the wall.

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Oh look. Mom smack. How quaint.

I checked with Mom. She's 78 and a bit hard of hearing. Between that and you being 28 games back she said she can hardly hear you. She also said that coming from a Baylor Bear and Arlington supporter she expects that kind of low nonsense.

She also asked if you boys have decided what to do this weekend? If you win even one game against the Yankees we get home field for the AL playoffs. So she wants to know if you support tanking all three games in the hopes of sticking it to your rivals? She expects Guzman to drop a pop fly again so that Judge can get an extra swing.

And she wants to know what you think your chances are of beating Farmer's prediction of your team beating the Astros record back on August 18? That was 78 wins by the way. She doesn't think y'all have it in you.

Last thing she told me was to ask you to run along and go get your shine box and to remind you that your offseason starts in 3 days.

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I hope she's ok. Do you always respond to a mom joke with a 5 paragraph rebuttal? I didn't even read it. Most people respond to a mom joke with a similar barb.

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Keeper of The Spirits said:

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I'll be there! You can email me user name at gmail dot com

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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Your mom got deposited over the wall.

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Oh look. Mom smack. How quaint.

I checked with Mom. She's 78 and a bit hard of hearing. Between that and you being 28 games back she said she can hardly hear you. She also said that coming from a Baylor Bear and Arlington supporter she expects that kind of low nonsense.

She also asked if you boys have decided what to do this weekend? If you win even one game against the Yankees we get home field for the AL playoffs. So she wants to know if you support tanking all three games in the hopes of sticking it to your rivals? She expects Guzman to drop a pop fly again so that Judge can get an extra swing.

And she wants to know what you think your chances are of beating Farmer's prediction of your team beating the Astros record back on August 18? That was 78 wins by the way. She doesn't think y'all have it in you.

Last thing she told me was to ask you to run along and go get your shine box and to remind you that your offseason starts in 3 days.

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I hope she's ok. Do you always respond to a mom joke with a 5 paragraph rebuttal? I didn't even read it. Most people respond to a mom joke with a similar barb.

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Its a baseball team trash talking thread not a GB toss a barb at your mom thread. The GB mom response of "your mom left a wet spot last night" didn't seem appropriate. This thread is classier than that.

And since its a baseball trash talking thread, I might as well congratulate the Arlingtonians on getting to 78 wins. That's a big comeback Ya'll only finished 29 back this year. You are only a player or two from being in real contention next year. Hopefully your new plastic playing surface will entice a quality FA or two.

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You can't be serious. Appropriate? [edited out the trash comment] The casual mom joke is much lighter than the vitriol scattered all over this thread.

So the season's over for Texas. Texas finished a month's worth of games behind Houston. Are Rangers fans allowed to still post here? Or should we shut it down and reconnect in March?

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Marvin said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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Your mom got deposited over the wall.

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Oh look. Mom smack. How quaint.

I checked with Mom. She's 78 and a bit hard of hearing. Between that and you being 28 games back she said she can hardly hear you. She also said that coming from a Baylor Bear and Arlington supporter she expects that kind of low nonsense.

She also asked if you boys have decided what to do this weekend? If you win even one game against the Yankees we get home field for the AL playoffs. So she wants to know if you support tanking all three games in the hopes of sticking it to your rivals? She expects Guzman to drop a pop fly again so that Judge can get an extra swing.

And she wants to know what you think your chances are of beating Farmer's prediction of your team beating the Astros record back on August 18? That was 78 wins by the way. She doesn't think y'all have it in you.

Last thing she told me was to ask you to run along and go get your shine box and to remind you that your offseason starts in 3 days.

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I hope she's ok. Do you always respond to a mom joke with a 5 paragraph rebuttal? I didn't even read it. Most people respond to a mom joke with a similar barb.

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Its a baseball team trash talking thread not a GB toss a barb at your mom thread. The GB mom response of "your mom left a wet spot last night" didn't seem appropriate. This thread is classier than that.

And since its a baseball trash talking thread, I might as well congratulate the Arlingtonians on getting to 78 wins. That's a big comeback Ya'll only finished 29 back this year. You are only a player or two from being in real contention next year. Hopefully your new plastic playing surface will entice a quality FA or two.

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You can't be serious. Appropriate? [edited out the trash comment] The casual mom joke is much lighter than the vitriol scattered all over this thread.

So the season's over for Texas. Texas finished a month's worth of games behind Houston. Are Rangers fans allowed to still post here? Or should we shut it down and reconnect in March?

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You guys have certainly picked up the posting traffic. Y'all were MIA for most of September, and now the Rangers thread has darn near blown up with talk of 2020. I mean, I get it... it's all you guys have. Still, I'd recommend option B- shut it down and reconnect in March. Thanks for asking!

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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Farmer1906 said:

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I posted this in 07 and I'll update it slightly, but this is pretty spot on, still.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 29 games out of first. You decided not to trade away any of the veteran assets even though you didn't stand a chance in the division. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 130 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player could only stay on the field for 70 games and either hits a home run or strikes out. Your rotation is one of the worst in baseball after Minor and Lynn (they only have 1 year left each). You have no bullpen. Your farm system is middle of the pack even though you you've been sellers in 17 and 18 (but not 19 for some reason). This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend more than NY & LA or rebuild.

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South Platte said:

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Marvin said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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South Platte said:

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mathguy86 said:

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Ronald Guzman did a dumb ass thing and got away with it, because CB Bucknor called the next pitch a strike. It wasn't even close to a strike and good ol' CB bailed Guzman out. Y'all would be ripping Guzman to shreds if the next pitch had been deposited over the wall and Arlington had lost.

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Your mom got deposited over the wall.

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Oh look. Mom smack. How quaint.

I checked with Mom. She's 78 and a bit hard of hearing. Between that and you being 28 games back she said she can hardly hear you. She also said that coming from a Baylor Bear and Arlington supporter she expects that kind of low nonsense.

She also asked if you boys have decided what to do this weekend? If you win even one game against the Yankees we get home field for the AL playoffs. So she wants to know if you support tanking all three games in the hopes of sticking it to your rivals? She expects Guzman to drop a pop fly again so that Judge can get an extra swing.

And she wants to know what you think your chances are of beating Farmer's prediction of your team beating the Astros record back on August 18? That was 78 wins by the way. She doesn't think y'all have it in you.

Last thing she told me was to ask you to run along and go get your shine box and to remind you that your offseason starts in 3 days.

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I hope she's ok. Do you always respond to a mom joke with a 5 paragraph rebuttal? I didn't even read it. Most people respond to a mom joke with a similar barb.

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Its a baseball team trash talking thread not a GB toss a barb at your mom thread. The GB mom response of "your mom left a wet spot last night" didn't seem appropriate. This thread is classier than that.

And since its a baseball trash talking thread, I might as well congratulate the Arlingtonians on getting to 78 wins. That's a big comeback Ya'll only finished 29 back this year. You are only a player or two from being in real contention next year. Hopefully your new plastic playing surface will entice a quality FA or two.

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You can't be serious. Appropriate? [edited out the trash comment] The casual mom joke is much lighter than the vitriol scattered all over this thread.

So the season's over for Texas. Texas finished a month's worth of games behind Houston. Are Rangers fans allowed to still post here? Or should we shut it down and reconnect in March?

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You guys have certainly picked up the posting traffic. Y'all were MIA for most of September, and now the Rangers thread has darn near blown up with talk of 2020. I mean, I get it... it's all you guys have. Still, I'd recommend option B- shut it down and reconnect in March. Thanks for asking!

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That's lame. Anybody who is still posting here RE: Rangers baseball is likely an genuine MLB fan, like myself. October is the best sports month of the year, no question.

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Farmer1906 said:

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I posted this in 17 and I'll update it slightly, but this is pretty spot-on, still.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 29 games out of first. You decided not to trade away any of the veteran assets even though you didn't stand a chance in the division. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 130 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player could only stay on the field for 70 games and either hits a home run or strikes out. Your rotation is one of the worst in baseball after Minor and Lynn (they only have 1 year left each). You have no bullpen. Your farm system is middle of the pack even though you you've been sellers in 17 and 18 (but not 19 for some reason). This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend more than NY & LA or rebuild.

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AccidentProne said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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I posted this in 17 and I'll update it slightly, but this is pretty spot-on, still.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 29 games out of first. You decided not to trade away any of the veteran assets even though you didn't stand a chance in the division. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 130 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player could only stay on the field for 70 games and either hits a home run or strikes out. Your rotation is one of the worst in baseball after Minor and Lynn (they only have 1 year left each). You have no bullpen. Your farm system is middle of the pack even though you you've been sellers in 17 and 18 (but not 19 for some reason). This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend more than NY & LA or rebuild.

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Do you work in the Rangers front office and have knowledge of what the payroll will be in 2020? Because I do, and I know it will be north of $175M.

I actually like the young kids behind Minor and Lynn. And I think we are going to grab a premium TOTR pitcher in the offseason. We have decent bullpen arms, too.

The Rangers will make the playoffs in the next two years.

Nobody spends more than NY & LA

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Catchers
Yasmani Grandal (31 years old, 3.9 WAR) -- $16 million mutual option for 2020 ($2.25 million buyout)
Jason Castro (33, 1.6)
Tyler Flowers (34, 1.6) -- $6 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Robinson Chirinos (36, 1.5)
Travis d'Arnaud (31, 1.1)
Brian McCann (36, 1.0)
Alex Avila (33, 1.0)
Russell Martin (37, 0.8)
Austin Romine (31, 0.5)
Martin Maldonado (33, 0.1)
Yan Gomes (32, 0.0) -- $9 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Jonathan Lucroy (34, -0.2)
Francisco Cervelli (34, -0.2)
Matt Wieters (34, -0.3)
Nick Hundley (36, -0.3)
Chris Iannetta (37, -0.6)
Welington Castillo (33, -0.9) -- $8 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
First Basemen
Anthony Rizzo (30 years old, 3.1 WAR) -- $14.5 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Eric Thames (33, 1.3) -- $7.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
David Freese (37, 1.2)
Jose Abreu (33, 0.7)
Justin Smoak (33, 0.6)
Matt Adams (31, 0.5) -- $4 million mutual option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Logan Forsythe (33, 0.5)
Mitch Moreland (34, 0.3)
Neil Walker (34, 0.3)
Ryan Zimmerman (35, -0.1) -- $18 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Yonder Alonso (33, -0.8)
Mark Reynolds (36, -0.8)
Steve Pearce (37, -0.9)
Lucas Duda (34, -0.9)
Second Basemen
Howie Kendrick (36 years old, 1.7 WAR)
Brian Dozier (33, 1.4)
Brock Holt (32, 1.1)
Jason Kipnis (33, 1.0) -- $16.5 million club option for 2020 ($2.5 million buyout)
Jonathan Schoop (28, 0.8)
Wilmer Flores (28, 0.6) -- $6 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brad Miller (30, 0.4)
Gordon Beckham (33, 0.2)
Ben Zobrist (39, 0.0)
Scooter Gennett (30, -0.2)
Starlin Castro (30, -0.2) -- $16 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Yangervis Solarte (32, -0.3)
Josh Harrison (32, -0.6)
Chris Owings (28, -0.8)
Eduardo Nuez (33, -1.0)
Third Basemen
Anthony Rendon (30 years old, 5.0 WAR)
Josh Donaldson (34, 3.7)
Mike Moustakas (31, 2.7) -- $11 million mutual option for 2020 ($3 million buyout)
Asdrubal Cabrera (34, 1.0)
Todd Frazier (34, 0.9)
Pablo Sandoval (33, 0.9)
Jedd Gyorko (31, -0.2) -- $13 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Martin Prado (36, -0.9)
Jung Ho Kang (33, -1.0)
Shortstops
Elvis Andrus (31 years old, 1.7 WAR) -- can opt out of 3 years, $43 million remaining on contract
Freddy Galvis (30, 1.6) -- $5.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Jose Iglesias (30, 1.5)
Didi Gregorius (30, 0.6)
Adeiny Hechavarria (31, 0.1)
Jordy Mercer (33, -0.1)
Left fielders
Brett Gardner (36 years old, 2.9 WAR)
Marcell Ozuna (29, 2.0)
Hunter Pence (37, 1.8)
Corey Dickerson (31, 0.7)
Alex Gordon (36, 0.7) -- $23 million mutual option for 2020 ($4 million buyout)
Gerardo Parra (33, 0.1)
Peter Bourjos (33, -0.5)
Carlos Gonzalez (34, -0.6)
Matt Kemp (35, -0.8)
Curtis Granderson (39, -1.1)
Center fielders
Starling Marte (31 years old, 2.6 WAR) -- $11.5 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Jarrod Dyson (35, 1.5)
Billy Hamilton (29, 0.3) -- $7.5 million mutual option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Carlos Gomez (34, -0.1)
Juan Lagares (31, -0.9) -- $9.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Leonys Martin (32, -0.6)
Austin Jackson (33, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Right fielders
Adam Eaton (31 years old, 2.2 WAR) -- $9.5 million club option for 2020 ($1.5 million buyout)
Kole Calhoun (32, 1.9) -- $14 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Nicholas Castellanos (28, 1.6)
Avisail Garcia (29, 1.6)
Jason Heyward (30, 1.6) -- can opt out of 4 years, $86 million remaining on contract if he has 550 plate appearances in 2019
Cameron Maybin (33, 1.4)
Yasiel Puig (29, 1.3)
Nick Markakis (36, 0.1) -- $6 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Adam Jones (34, 0.3)
Melky Cabrera (35, -0.7)
Jon Jay (35, -0.8)
Lonnie Chisenhall (31, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Designated hitters
Nelson Cruz (39 years old, 3.2 WAR) -- $12 million club option for 2020 ($300,000 buyout)
J.D. Martinez (32, 2.6) -- can opt out of 3 years, $62.5 million remaining on contract
Edwin Encarnacion (37, 2.2) -- $20 million club option for 2020 ($5 million buyout)
Kendrys Morales (37, -0.8)
Hanley Ramirez (36, -0.2)
Mark Trumbo (34, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Starting pitchers
Gerrit Cole (29 years old, 4.5 WAR)
Hyun-Jin Ryu (33, 4.1)
Stephen Strasburg (31, 4.0) -- can opt out of 4 years, $100 million remaining on contract
Zack Wheeler (30, 3.6)
Jose Quintana (31, 3.1) -- $11.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Madison Bumgarner (30, 3.0)
Jake Odorizzi (30, 2.8)
Kyle Gibson (32, 2.6)
Cole Hamels (36, 2.4)
Tanner Roark (33, 2.2)
Michael Pineda (30, 2.1)
Adam Wainwright (38, 1.9)
Wade Miley (33, 1.8)
Homer Bailey (34, 1.7)
Brett Anderson (32, 1.6)
Andrew Cashner (33, 1.6) -- $10 million option for 2020 vests with 340 IP combined over 2018-19; becomes player option with 360 IP over '18-19
Martin Perez (29, 1.6) -- $7.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Yu Darvish (33, 1.5) -- can opt out of 4 years, $81 million remaining on contract
Ivan Nova (33, 1.4)
Julio Teheran (29, 1.4) -- $12 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Jason Vargas (37, 1.4) -- $8 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Rick Porcello (31, 1.3)
Jake Arrieta (34, 1.0) -- can opt out of 1 year, $20 million remaining on contract unless Phillies exercise 2-year, $40 million option
Gio Gonzalez (34, 0.8)
Rich Hill (40, 0.8)
Chris Archer (31, 0.7) -- $9 million club option for 2020 ($1.75 million buyout)
Corey Kluber (34, 0.6) -- $17.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Matt Moore (31, 0.5)
Dallas Keuchel (32, 0.3)
Felix Hernandez (34, 0.2)
Jhoulys Chacin (32, 0.1)
Clay Buchholz (35, 0.0)
Tyson Ross (33, 0.0)
Alex Wood (29, -0.1)
Jeremy Hellickson (33, -0.1)
Drew Pomeranz (31, -0.1)
Edinson Volquez (36, -0.1)
Marco Estrada (36, -0.2)
Wade LeBlanc (35, -0.2) -- $5 million club option for 2020 ($450,000 buyout)
Shelby Miller (29, -0.2)
Clayton Richard (36, -0.2)
Matt Harvey (31, -0.3)
Ervin Santana (37, -0.4)
Michael Wacha (28, -0.4)
Drew Smyly (29, -0.6)
Trevor Cahill (32, -0.8)
Edwin Jackson (36, -0.8)
Derek Holland (33, -0.9)
Relief pitchers
Aroldis Chapman (32 years old, 1.9 WAR) -- can opt out of 2 years, $30 million remaining on contract
Will Smith (30, 1.2)
Kenley Jansen (32, 1.0) -- can opt out of 2 years, $38 million remaining on contract
Yusmeiro Petit (35, 0.9) -- $5.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Jake Diekman (33, 0.8) -- $5.75 mutual option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Will Harris (35, 0.7)
Brandon Kintzler (35, 0.7)
Sean Doolittle (33, 0.6) -- $6.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Yoshihisa Hirano (36, 0.6)
Matt Albers (37, 0.6)
Chris Martin (34, 0.6)
Collin McHugh (33, 0.5)
Oliver Perez (38, 0.5) -- $2.75 million club option becomes guaranteed with 55 appearances in 2019; increases to $3 million with 60 appearances in '19
Juan Nicasio (33, 0.4)
David Hernandez (35, 0.4)
Jeremy Jeffress (32, 0.4) -- $4.3 million club option for 2020
Brad Brach (34, 0.4)
Sergio Romo (37, 0.4)
David Phelps (33, 0.3) -- $1 million club option for 2020; club option becomes $3 million with 30 games pitched, $5 million with 40 games pitched, $7 million with 50 games pitched in '19.
Tony Sipp (36, 0.3)
Hector Rondon (32, 0.2)
Tommy Hunter (33, 0.2)
Cory Gearrin (34, 0.2)
Steve Cishek (34, 0.1)
Joe Smith (36, 0.1)
Fernando Rodney (43, 0.1)
Luke Gregerson (36, 0.1)
Shawn Kelley (36, 0.1) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Aaron Loup (32, 0.1) $2 million club option for 2020
Hector Santiago (32, 0.1)
Mike Dunn (35, 0.0)
Pedro Strop (35, -0.1)
Craig Stammen (36, -0.1)
Greg Holland (34, -0.1)
Jared Hughes (34, -0.1) -- $3 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Nate Jones (34, -0.1) -- $5.15 million club option for 2020 ($1.25 million buyout)
Tony Barnette (36, -0.1) -- $3 million club option for 2020
Tyler Thornburg (31, -0.1)
Arodys Vizcaino (29, -0.1)
Dan Otero (35, -0.2) -- $1.5 million club option for 2020 ($100,000 buyout)
Pat Neshek (39, -0.3) -- $7 million club option for 2020 ($750,000 buyout)
Seunghwan Oh (37, -0.3)
Trevor Rosenthal (30, -0.3)
Wily Peralta (31, -0.4)
Zach Duke (37, -0.4)
Jonny Venters (35, -0.4)
Tony Watson (35, -0.5) -- $2.5 million player option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Anthony Swarzak (34, -0.6)
Cody Allen (31, -0.7)
Adam Warren (32, -0.8) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brandon Morrow (35, N/A) -- $12 million club/vesting option for 2020 ($3 million buyout); hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Dellin Betances (32, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Josh Fields (34, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Bud Norris (35, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Darren O'Day (37, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Addison Reed (31, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Tony Cingrani (30, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019
Brian Duensing (37, N/A) -- hasn't appeared in MLB in 2019

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Farmer1906 said:

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I posted this in 17 and I'll update it slightly, but this is pretty spot-on, still.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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Do you work in the Rangers front office and have knowledge of what the payroll will be in 2020? Because I do, and I know it will be north of $175M.

I actually like the young kids behind Minor and Lynn. And I think we are going to grab a premium TOTR pitcher in the offseason. We have decent bullpen arms, too.

The Rangers will make the playoffs in the next two years.

Nobody spends more than NY & LA

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Farmer1906 said:

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I posted this in 17 and I'll update it slightly, but this is pretty spot-on, still.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 23 games out of first. You traded away your ace midseason who is now a FA. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 110 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player will be 39 and either busted for roids and start to decline like all aging players do. You have one of the worst rotations in baseball. You have no bullpen. Your farm system is bottom 10 in the league even though you were sellers at the deadline. This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend like NY & LA or rebuild.

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You just finished 6 games under .500 and 29 games out of first. You decided not to trade away any of the veteran assets even though you didn't stand a chance in the division. You have no major plans to spend decent new money this year with a payroll approaching 130 M. Your young core is not all that good. Your best player could only stay on the field for 70 games and either hits a home run or strikes out. Your rotation is one of the worst in baseball after Minor and Lynn (they only have 1 year left each). You have no bullpen. Your farm system is middle of the pack even though you you've been sellers in 17 and 18 (but not 19 for some reason). This is all done by the architect that is Jon Daniels. Things will not be significantly better next year or the one after that or the several after that. You're stuck in 83 wins or fewer zone unless you spend more than NY & LA or rebuild.

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