Buzz to Maryland?

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Where do I make my donation for Buzz to leave?

Look at Texas Tech. good lord
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t - cam said:

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If it ends up being true I guess Maryland's search isn't being run by some of the basketball savants on here, shocked they'd hire guaranteed mediocrity


So you think he'll kill it at Maryland if he goes? I'd take the other side of that bet.



He's been pretty much a sure thing hire everywhere he's been so I'd guess he'd do pretty well.
Lmao. WTF are you talking about?
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Ag1188 said:

t - cam said:

Ag13 said:

bobinator said:

If it ends up being true I guess Maryland's search isn't being run by some of the basketball savants on here, shocked they'd hire guaranteed mediocrity


So you think he'll kill it at Maryland if he goes? I'd take the other side of that bet.



He's been pretty much a sure thing hire everywhere he's been so I'd guess he'd do pretty well.
Lmao. WTF are you talking about?


What are you talking about?
He's a guaranteed winner. It could be debatable to what degree but he's going to field teams that are competitive at the top of his conference and are tournament worthy.
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Ag1188 said:

Where do I make my donation for Buzz to leave?

Look at Texas Tech. good lord


Much better NIL game than us because Lubbock cares about college basketball a ton more than College Station. Basketball is a distant #3 sports in College Station. Better facilities than us too.
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Been debatable since 2020
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InfoSecAg said:

Been debatable since 2020


What is remotely debatable? You guys are getting too emotional about a Texas tech game.
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rondis23 said:

It's not a "candy assistant loser mentality", it's Our Reality.

A&M has Not won National Championships in our Lifetime. I'm not ok with this.

Buzz has the opportunity for his 4th straight NCAA tournament appearance next year. In the History of Aggie Basketball, only 1 other guy has done this. I'm just saying I'm not ready to jump off the Buzz bandwagon.


Look at Tech. They went out and invested in hoops. All their ncaa greatness came this century but sure we are stuck in the suck forever and should thank our lucky stars Buzz is here to get us punked the first weekend!
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FTAG 2000 said:

rondis23 said:

It's not a "candy assistant loser mentality", it's Our Reality.

A&M has Not won National Championships in our Lifetime. I'm not ok with this.

Buzz has the opportunity for his 4th straight NCAA tournament appearance next year. In the History of Aggie Basketball, only 1 other guy has done this. I'm just saying I'm not ready to jump off the Buzz bandwagon.


Look at Tech. They went out and invested in hoops. All their ncaa greatness came this century but sure we are stuck in the suck forever and should thank our lucky stars Buzz is here to get us punked the first weekend!



Do you have any faith in our athletic department taking basketball seriously?

It's definitely a losers mentality but I know Buzz keeps us in the hunt for the tournament every year he's here. I'm just not confident at all that we will hire a worthy replacement and the idea of basketball going the way of the baseball program isn't worth the risk. If I had any faith in trev I'd maybe be excited about what's coming next but we are a cratering athletic department so I'd rather keep our best big 3 coach.
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I find it humorous that nobody has named any realistic replacements. They want buzz gone but have no idea who they're gonna replace him with. Be careful what you wish for
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Buzz is flawed but I still think he is the perfect embodiment of Texas A&M. Hope he sticks around.
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JJxvi said:

When talking about BCG, the more time has gone by the more it seems like the staff of Forbes, Williams, Brooks in the first two season were an all-star staff completely unlike any he put together afterward.


We've had quite a few former assistants who became HCs, although both Kyle Keller and Scott Spinelli were both relieved of their duties this year.
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FTAG 2000 said:

rondis23 said:

It's not a "candy assistant loser mentality", it's Our Reality.

A&M has Not won National Championships in our Lifetime. I'm not ok with this.

Buzz has the opportunity for his 4th straight NCAA tournament appearance next year. In the History of Aggie Basketball, only 1 other guy has done this. I'm just saying I'm not ready to jump off the Buzz bandwagon.


Look at Tech. They went out and invested in hoops. All their ncaa greatness came this century but sure we are stuck in the suck forever and should thank our lucky stars Buzz is here to get us punked the first weekend!



Tech has BEEN invested in hoops since they built their United Arena in '99. They absolutely made Basketball a priority, but it started 26 years ago. We are in 2025 and our commitment to Basketball still isn't to their level.
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FTAG 2000 said:

rondis23 said:

A Lot of people on here clearly don't remember the Dumpster Fire that Aggie basketball was for Decades.

The school has made 17 Tournament appearances in its history. We've never been relevant in mens basketball. We have never been a "basketball" school. We are a "Football" school, that doesn't even Consistently win at that either!

We are finally somewhat relevant again, and we think we're going to be able to find a better coach than Buzz? Buzz Williams basketball, and making the NCAA tournament Consistently may be the best we ever have/get.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, we haven't won a National Title in Football in 86 years. When is the last time we were "In the Hunt" in football?


Quit with the loser mentality of looking back thinking nothing can ever change and we can never be great.

It's even more pathetic when trying to act like we could never do better than a coach who can't get us out of the first weekend.

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TheDecadeSapling said:

I find it humorous that nobody has named any realistic replacements. They want buzz gone but have no idea who they're gonna replace him with. Be careful what you wish for
Yup. A lot of people would rather hire an unproven mid-major type of guy and while that works out sometimes, we'd also run the risk of having the basketball equivalent of Michael Earley and that doesn't sound like a fun gamble to me.
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I believe Buzz will take the Maryland job and we will politely let him go. The rumors have around for week or two.
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agtrevino07 said:

I think Buzz will definitely use the noise/rumors he got this season to push for certain things (e.g. , increase asst coaches salaries).


He should clean house on the assistants. The fact no one has tried to hire them away is a huge red flag. If he wants to advance this program he needs to hire some assistants that challenge him rather than dress like him and step out of the way while he does his sideline thing.
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Amaze72 said:

I believe Buzz will take the Maryland job and we will politely let him go. The rumors have around for week or two.
Ii don't.
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jja79 said:

agtrevino07 said:

I think Buzz will definitely use the noise/rumors he got this season to push for certain things (e.g. , increase asst coaches salaries).


He should clean house on the assistants. The fact no one has tried to hire them away is a huge red flag. If he wants to advance this program he needs to hire some assistants that challenge him rather than dress like him and step out of the way while he does his sideline thing.


After the McNeilly thing, Buzx's priority is having loyalists on his staff. They are all part of the cult of Buzz. Nothing will change in that front and it's part of why we have seen the ceiling this year of a Buxx squad.


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Zachary Klement said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

I find it humorous that nobody has named any realistic replacements. They want buzz gone but have no idea who they're gonna replace him with. Be careful what you wish for
Yup. A lot of people would rather hire an unproven mid-major type of guy and while that works out sometimes, we'd also run the risk of having the basketball equivalent of Michael Earley and that doesn't sound like a fun gamble to me.


I don't think we'd hire an assistant who has never been a HC should buzz leave.
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zgolfz85 said:

EKUAg said:

Ag13 said:



This is the referenced tweet. If this goes down like the tweet says - and we take more than a few days/weeks to hire a new coach that nobody has ever heard (or a current assistant coach) because we didn't see this coming and were not prepared - I'll be very upset.


He is also saying Turgeon to A&M.


Can you post that tweet?
Guy said the Turgeon tweet was a joke but the Buzz Williams to Maryland was not.

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FTAG 2000 said:

jja79 said:

agtrevino07 said:

I think Buzz will definitely use the noise/rumors he got this season to push for certain things (e.g. , increase asst coaches salaries).


He should clean house on the assistants. The fact no one has tried to hire them away is a huge red flag. If he wants to advance this program he needs to hire some assistants that challenge him rather than dress like him and step out of the way while he does his sideline thing.


After the McNeilly thing, Buzx's priority is having loyalists on his staff. They are all part of the cult of Buzz. Nothing will change in that front and it's part of why we have seen the ceiling this year of a Buxx squad.





What? Since McNeilly? McNeilly was "cult of Buzz" too. Jamie McNeilly played for Buzz Williams at New Orleans, was with him at Marquette, Virginia Tech, to A&M.


I guess cult of Buzz assistants dont get hired away, except the ones that do.
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Zachary Klement said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

I find it humorous that nobody has named any realistic replacements. They want buzz gone but have no idea who they're gonna replace him with. Be careful what you wish for
Yup. A lot of people would rather hire an unproven mid-major type of guy and while that works out sometimes, we'd also run the risk of having the basketball equivalent of Michael Earley and that doesn't sound like a fun gamble to me.
That's not true, we will not hire a bench coach that's never had HC experience to be the MBB here
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Maryland basketball program is without a doubt a better program than A&Ms. It shouldnt shock anyone if they offer and he takes that job.

We'll yet again take a flyer on some coach looking to use A&M as a stepping stone to make it big. All you have to do is see the trend over the last 20 years.
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How confident are you of that?
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TheDecadeSapling said:

How confident are you of that?
Very confident.

When was the last time we hired a bench coach without any experience as MBB HC?

Even Byrne hired head coaches for MBB.

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Batty said:

So over on the 247 Maryland forum there is a 4 page Buzz Williams discussion on going. I don't have access but curious minds go Mmmmm?

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/board/67/contents/buzz-williams-247788069/
This page is starting to grow again, up to 6 pages this morning. Anyone have insight?
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Timberwolf said:

Maryland basketball program is without a doubt a better program than A&Ms. It shouldnt shock anyone if they offer and he takes that job.

We'll yet again take a flyer on some coach looking to use A&M as a stepping stone to make it big. All you have to do is see the trend over the last 20 years.

That is true. But did not work out for Turge.

And the stepping stone thing didn't work out for BCG.

Be careful what you wish for. Not sure Maryland fans will eat up the rah rah stuff if they aren't consistently competitive with Duke/UNC (their std).
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Yeah, I can't imagine us hiring a guy with no head coaching experience at all. That would be a wild risk.
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JJxvi said:

FTAG 2000 said:

jja79 said:

agtrevino07 said:

I think Buzz will definitely use the noise/rumors he got this season to push for certain things (e.g. , increase asst coaches salaries).


He should clean house on the assistants. The fact no one has tried to hire them away is a huge red flag. If he wants to advance this program he needs to hire some assistants that challenge him rather than dress like him and step out of the way while he does his sideline thing.


After the McNeilly thing, Buzx's priority is having loyalists on his staff. They are all part of the cult of Buzz. Nothing will change in that front and it's part of why we have seen the ceiling this year of a Buxx squad.





What? Since McNeilly? McNeilly was "cult of Buzz" too. Jamie McNeilly played for Buzz Williams at New Orleans, was with him at Marquette, Virginia Tech, to A&M.


I guess cult of Buzz assistants dont get hired away, except the ones that do.
ONE coach peeling off in 6 years (to a lateral job and apparently part of some package player deal) is not reflective of growing a coaching tree.
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McNeilly was also more or less fired wasn't he?
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Timberwolf said:

Maryland basketball program is without a doubt a better program than A&Ms. It shouldnt shock anyone if they offer and he takes that job.

We'll yet again take a flyer on some coach looking to use A&M as a stepping stone to make it big. All you have to do is see the trend over the last 20 years.



I agree but no idea how to gauge Buzz. He could leave for Maryland, and it might not have anything to do with a program comparison. Otherwise, why leave Marquette in the first place? My very personal opinion if he leaves, it's simply because he doesn't want to be a lifer anywhere.
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Quote:

ONE coach peeling off in 6 years (to a lateral job and apparently part of some package player deal) is not reflective of growing a coaching tree.
I'm not saying it is. There was a clear implication in that post that Buzz Williams decided to go insular with only his guys "after the Jamie McNeilly thing" but it just doesn't logically fit the argument. Jamie McNeilly was "his guy" too, brought along to every stop after playing for him.
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It helps Trev shed a large contract and buyout if natives get restless. He can then bring in a mid-major up and coming coach to appease enough donors and the coach will think our NIL pockets are great (vs. program he'll be coming from), but will learn they are sparse vs. SEC teams.

Trev is managing a budget first, wins second....esp with NIL growing by leaps and bounds in Football.
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90ags said:

It helps Trev shed a large contract and buyout if natives get restless. He can then bring in a mid-major up and coming coach to appease enough donors and the coach will think our NIL pockets are great (vs. program he'll be coming from), but will learn they are sparse vs. SEC teams.

Trev is managing a budget first, wins second....esp with NIL growing by leaps and bounds in Football.

It seems so but it's a recipe for starting a swirl downward. You can't maintain financial success if you let the product deteriorate.
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Agree, but still TBD all of Trev's motives and marching orders to shore up the financials.

Ultimately, he'll sell the public regarding the balancing act underway of rev streams and ever increasing NIL demands of football (it is out of control), but something has to give as we aren't as deep pocketed as many seem to believe on this site (donors aren't as free-giving of funds due to Jimbo fiasco plus the constant outcry of need to see winning before funding; NIL opportunities aren't a plentiful in smaller towns vs. big cities).

Winning will open up some coffers (across the men's sports), but it's the irony of the scenario. tu's war chest has quadrupled after winning and there's definitely a correlation to coaching hires (as other than men's bball which still managed to make the tourney (thanks due to A&M losing twice to them IMO), they are prob in top of almost ever sport they compete in as think many are top 10 across the board w women's bball, vball, softball, but now include men's baseball, M & W's swimming/diving, etc....unsure of track/field).
 
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