Reopening Schools

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Wearing a mask in enough a pain the the ass during a 45 minute stop at a grocery store. I can't imagine having to wear one all day if I was a teacher for 8+ hours. Eff that. And don't even get me started on kids trying to do that
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Comal ISD made announcement they will stick to original schedule and start Aug 25th unless an executive order changes it. https://www.kens5.com/article/news/education/comal-isd-sticking-to-their-calendar-for-next-year-despite-new-guidance-from-tea/273-09b66a73-43bb-42e6-8aee-95310fa1db50

NBISD has not made an official yet.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/18/no-coronavirus-spike-found-re-opening-schools-22-eu-countries/

No spike in cases in Europe after reopening schools
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https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-france-close-some-reopened-schools-covid-cases-flare-up-today-2020-05-18/
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Opening line says there was a flare up "linked to schools."

Then later in the article:

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Blanquer did not specify if the 70 cases of COVID-19 were among students or teachers.

Given that the incubation period for the virus is several days, people are "likely" to have been infected before the reopening of the schools, he said.


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I am sorry that I keep bumping this thread. I wanted to give an update on our district's plan. I am interested to hear about other districts' plans in Texas and out of state.

My district sent out a survey to parents that had the following choices:

1. Students attend either a.m. or p.m. classes.
2. Students will either go to class on M, W, F or T, R. After two weeks, students switch days. Blended learning for students when they are at home.
3. A group of students will attend traditional classes for nine weeks while the others will receive instruction online. The next nine weeks students involved with online instruction will attend classes face-to-face and the others will receive online instruction.

All these choices seem to be FUBARed in my opinion. Either open up like we have for over 100 years or go 100% online. Maybe. . .just maybe the findings by the WHO regarding asymptomatic spread will influence districts to open business as usual in the fall. We really need The Honorable Greg Abbott to take a stand and direct districts to get all students back to class. .
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rojo_ag said:

I am sorry that I keep bumping this thread. I wanted to give an update on our district's plan. I am interested to hear about other districts' plans in Texas and out of state.

My district sent out a survey to parents that had the following choices:

1. Students attend either a.m. or p.m. classes.
2. Students will either go to class on M, W, F or T, R. After two weeks, students switch days. Blended learning for students when they are at home.
3. A group of students will attend traditional classes for nine weeks while the others will receive instruction online. The next nine weeks students involved with online instruction will attend classes face-to-face and the others will receive online instruction.

All these choices seem to be FUBARed in my opinion. Either open up like we have for over 100 years or go 100% online. Maybe. . .just maybe the findings by the WHO regarding asymptomatic spread will influence districts to open business as usual in the fall. We really need The Honorable Greg Abbott to take a stand and direct districts to get all students back to class. .


All three are garbage.

Kids don't die from this and apparently asymptomatic aren't big spreaders.

Normal school year outside maybe starting a week early if the hospitals actually get overwhelmed (lol) and we have to return to at home
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My son in law shared the questionaire sent to parents in my grand daughter's district. She will be moving from pre k to kinder. None of the options said you are not worried and want regular school. Options mentioned were all online, half day and every other day. Supposedly with online expectations for the time they had off for half or every other.

As an educator this really bothers me. I want regular school. But if not then all online not hybird. I found online way more time consuming than most people think. I was at the computer grading work, giving feedback, answering questions, on zoom or the phone walking a kid through something step by step, or calling parents with informatin or updates, or reports when kids were not doing the work.

If I am in the classroom full time, even when only half of the kids at a time are there, when will there be time to do all the interactions with the kids not in class.

So I am hoping and praying for "real" school, with short time outs if there is an outbreak and it is really needed.

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3rd Generation Ag said:

My son in law shared the questionaire sent to parents in my grand daughter's district. She will be moving from pre k to kinder. None of the options said you are not worried and want regular school. Options mentioned were all online, half day and every other day. Supposedly with online expectations for the time they had off for half or every other.

As an educator this really bothers me. I want regular school. But if not then all online not hybird. I found online way more time consuming than most people think. I was at the computer grading work, giving feedback, answering questions, on zoom or the phone walking a kid through something step by step, or calling parents with informatin or updates, or reports when kids were not doing the work.

If I am in the classroom full time, even when only half of the kids at a time or there, when will there be time to do all the interactions with the kids not in class.

So I am hoping and praying for "real" school, with short time outs if there is an outbreak and it is really needed.


I am so with you on this! The amount of work required while negotiating the needs of a four year old daughter and a 10 month old son was extremely difficult. We NEED interaction with our students. For them and for us. I'm praying with you.
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I have heard from 2 different teachers that we (Georgia) will not have "regular" school. MS and HS will be online for 1st semester. There is talk of using HS campuses for grade school so they can social distance easier.

This is insanity and the parents will revolt at some point.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

My son in law shared the questionaire sent to parents in my grand daughter's district. She will be moving from pre k to kinder. None of the options said you are not worried and want regular school. Options mentioned were all online, half day and every other day. Supposedly with online expectations for the time they had off for half or every other.

As an educator this really bothers me. I want regular school. But if not then all online not hybird. I found online way more time consuming than most people think. I was at the computer grading work, giving feedback, answering questions, on zoom or the phone walking a kid through something step by step, or calling parents with informatin or updates, or reports when kids were not doing the work.

If I am in the classroom full time, even when only half of the kids at a time or there, when will there be time to do all the interactions with the kids not in class.

So I am hoping and praying for "real" school, with short time outs if there is an outbreak and it is really needed.




Yeah hybrid is frankly a nightmare.

Either normal school or online. None of this in between crap. The hybrid model basically does nothing to help working parents.

Also frankly Abbott needs to make a damn executive order. All these districts doing different things is going to make it hell for employers. At least get everyone in the same boat regarding school.

My job has been WFH since March. And will remain so for the foreseeable future. They're even investigating making it permanent. So I'm in a good position but many are not. They need consistency across the state. And if it gets really bad in areas return to online.
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I heard the last two weeks that public schools have failed minority children. Well now they apparently are looking to up the ante and fail all children.

They are operating like it is March 15 and we know noting about covid but are assuming the worst. It is insanity. Remember, two week to flatten the curve.
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As a parent. Hybrid >>> all online
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Aggie95 said:

I have heard from 2 different teachers that we (Georgia) will not have "regular" school. MS and HS will be online for 1st semester. There is talk of using HS campuses for grade school so they can social distance easier.

This is insanity and the parents will revolt at some point.

Where in GA? We are in Cobb and not even teachers we know seem to know anything. The state laid out guidelines but it seems every district will make their own choices.
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To take it even further....its not one or the other...they just need to get all kids back in school.

Online learning does not work.

Hybrid will not work.

Regardless if both parents work from home and are "able" to make it work....95% of parents are not teachers and remote learning is not as effective.
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planoaggie123 said:

To take it even further....its not one or the other...they just need to get all kids back in school.

Online learning does not work.

Hybrid will not work.

Regardless if both parents work from home and are "able" to make it work....95% of parents are not teachers and remote learning is not as effective AT ALL.
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planoaggie123 said:

To take it even further....its not one or the other...they just need to get all kids back in school.

Online learning does not work.

Hybrid will not work.

Regardless if both parents work from home and are "able" to make it work....95% of parents are not teachers and remote learning is not as effective.

Uhh... my wife and I are both teachers and I can assure you my 5 year old got absolutely nothing out of remote learning. It's hard to teach your kid when you are constantly on Zoom meetings or emailing kids that don't turn in work.
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LOL i accept your edit!
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Fair points.

I wanted to say "parents are not teachers" as a blanket statement but i figured someone would chime in and say "...but i am a teacher and i did ok..."
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Hoping there is an option - all or home. If parents think there is a risk, they can choose to go online. For those that aren't worried, go to school. Maybe if teachers are concerned, they are the ones that teach online and others show up to school.
I do think parents will revolt. And if it affects Friday Night Lights - look out.
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As bad as they all are I would prefer the third option if that is all we have. Regular kids with one teacher teaching in class, and a second doing the online part. Switch at nine weeks.. Then after that insane period be in regular school.
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Big Al 1992 said:

Hoping there is an option - all or home. If parents think there is a risk, they can choose to go online. For those that aren't worried, go to school. Maybe if teachers are concerned, they are the ones that teach online and others show up to school.
I do think parents will revolt. And if it affects Friday Night Lights - look out.


Umm...

Open up schools as normal. If you don't like that just home school them.

That has been an option since forever.

Not sure why you need a government entity to make that decision for you.
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I 100% agree.

The only thing I am not sure how to account for is Teachers Unions and if they provide some big push-back on going back to in-class instruction. I would like to think it would be "either come back and work or find other employment" like the rest of the world but I assume its not that easy....
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planoaggie123 said:

I 100% agree.

The only thing I am not sure how to account for is Teachers Unions and if they provide some big push-back on going back to in-class instruction. I would like to think it would be "either come back and work or find other employment" like the rest of the world but I assume its not that easy....


Teacher unions in Texas are basically nonexistent. Shouldn't be a problem here.
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planoaggie123 said:

I 100% agree.

The only thing I am not sure how to account for is Teachers Unions and if they provide some big push-back on going back to in-class instruction. I would like to think it would be "either come back and work or find other employment" like the rest of the world but I assume its not that easy....

Yep... there are no unions in Texas. I can also guarantee you that 95% (if not more) of teachers are ready to get back in the classroom.
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Ahh. Ok. I know very little clearly. I just assumed.

I would assume most teachers are ready to go back but I could easily see a strong making a strong stance in favor of a few elderly or others who dont feel comfortable.

Ready to get these kids back in school and everyone back to a more normal life....
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Not sure about other districts but the days of teaching until you are a little old lady/man are done. Maybe at the elementary school, but at the high school it's a young persons game when it comes to teaching.
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I noticed that with my oldest who is just in Kinder so not much recent publice education exposure....walking the halls of her elementary most of the teachers definitely seemed on the younger end.

Granted its all perspective but it feels like i had a lot more "later in life" teachers when I was growin up...
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planoaggie123 said:

I noticed that with my oldest who is just in Kinder so not much recent publice education exposure....walking the halls of her elementary most of the teachers definitely seemed on the younger end.

Granted its all perspective but it feels like i had a lot more "later in life" teachers when I was growin up...

I agree. Now teachers are my age and it's kinda weird because I know there were a lot of teachers that were older than my parents were when I was in school.
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In addition to the education aspect (which was awful for my kids - their teachers did the best job they could and gave 110% but you can't turn a classroom textbook curriculum into an online class on a dime), I am really concerned for my oldest son. He's autistic and until the lockdown, Cy Fair has done an amazing job providing us with resources and tools, helping him interact with peers, and learning how to be social. He really thrives in school.

Watching his regression the last 3 months has been agonizing. We've done our best, but the social interactions were what brought him out the most and those get lost when you're at home. If we don't have normal school in the fall i don't know what we'll do.
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tylercsbn9 said:

planoaggie123 said:

I 100% agree.

The only thing I am not sure how to account for is Teachers Unions and if they provide some big push-back on going back to in-class instruction. I would like to think it would be "either come back and work or find other employment" like the rest of the world but I assume its not that easy....


Teacher unions in Texas are basically nonexistent. Shouldn't be a problem here.
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Texas is a Right to Work state. No teacher unions. . .organizations yes.
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A poster on another thread reported that in Missouri students will be given the option to go to school or participate in 100% online learning. Students in the classroom will remain in the same classroom for the entire school day. Students will also eat in the same classroom. She did not say anything about extracurricular activities, field trips, or buses. I don't know if these restrictions are statewide or only for her public school system. I cannot imagine students staying in one classroom all day. Feels like it would be a prison.
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rojo_ag said:

A poster on another thread reported that in Missouri students will be given the option to go to school or participate in 100% online learning. Students in the classroom will remain in the same classroom for the entire school day. Students will also eat in the same classroom. She did not say anything about extracurricular activities, field trips, or buses. I don't know if these restrictions are statewide or only for her public school system. I cannot imagine students staying in one classroom all day. Feels like it would be a prison.
That's like a standardized testing model but every day. Every time I have to monitor a test for just one day I want to gouge my eyes out. At the high school level kids would just stop coming to school... give it a month or so and you'd have nobody left in class.
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We are in Tomball ISD, and I just got an email saying they will NOT be making any changes to the 2020/21 school calendar.

They do "expect the instructional setting within our schools to look different" - whatever that means.

I already completed a survey asking my opinion of a week on/week off schedule where the kids alternate going to school and doing online learning. I rated it as "We will do it if there is no other option". It wouldn't be ideal, but my son will be in 10th grade, so we could make it work. It would be terrible for families with younger kids and two working parents, though.
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Yes, just because they keep the same school start and end dates, that does not mean regular school. TEA has some tough guidelines for summer school and most districts are hoping they relax those for fall. Otherwise school won't be really regular school. And teachers want regular school.
 
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