Reopening Schools

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Rachel 98
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Ahh thanks! I don't think they had that when I was in school LOL!
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Rachel 98 said:

Ahh thanks! I don't think they had that when I was in school LOL!
me either, lol.
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Update - Commissioner Morath moved his Tuesday meeting to Thursday at 3.
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EdmondsWay said:

Update - Commissioner Morath moved his Tuesday meeting to Thursday at 3.
You got to be kidding!?! Can someone step up and be a leader? Stop "cuttin' bait."
3rd Generation Ag
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Parents, teachers, and administrators all need to know so plans can be made.
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I hear there is going to be some contention at the district level coming out of that Thursday superintendent meeting.
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Knucklesammich said:

I hear there is going to be some contention at the district level coming out of that Thursday superintendent meeting.

We are aware, hoping for the best possible measures to come about.
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Delay could be because governor is going to have something to day on Tuesday.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/children-are-only-half-as-likely-to-get-infected-by-the-coronavirus-research-shows/2020/06/16/be86aff4-afb6-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

Very positive news. Still doubt any administrator is going to be brave enough to propose 5 day a week in classroom school in the fall.
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amercer said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/children-are-only-half-as-likely-to-get-infected-by-the-coronavirus-research-shows/2020/06/16/be86aff4-afb6-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

Very positive news. Still doubt any administrator is going to be brave enough to propose 5 day a week in classroom school in the fall.


Haven't Houston isds done that? Just extended the day minutes and padded the breaks with extra weeks?
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Not living in Houston I'm not following proposals there very closely, but I expect that actual plans won't be decided on for a bit. When do most Texas schools start up? Aug 15ish? So I guess something concrete will have to come out soon.
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amercer said:

Not living in Houston I'm not following proposals there very closely, but I expect that actual plans won't be decided on for a bit. When do most Texas schools start up? Aug 15ish? So I guess something concrete will have to come out soon.


I'm in Boerne and we don't have a new calendar yet. But we usually follow the bigger districts so I've been watching. We currently are scheduled to start aug 12.

Here is Spring ISD info. Saw it posted here when it was published.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/05/31/spring-isd-reveals-revised-2020-21-instructional-calendar-that-includes-extended-breaks/
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I'm teaching Summer school online. I have two siblings on my roster. Received an email from a parent that the entire family has tested positive and her daughters are quite ill. She emailed me the positive test results. Girls are in elementary school. Spring ISD - family in Houston
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rojo_ag said:

EdmondsWay said:

Update - Commissioner Morath moved his Tuesday meeting to Thursday at 3.
You got to be kidding!?! Can someone step up and be a leader? Stop "cuttin' bait."
Apparently I was. Getting word he is moving back a week to next Tuesday. After the fairly positive news coming from Abbott I am surprised that there is a further delay.
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SpringAg92 said:

I'm teaching Summer school online. I have two siblings on my roster. Received an email from a parent that the entire family has tested positive and her daughters are quite ill. She emailed me the positive test results. Girls are in elementary school. Spring ISD - family in Houston


That's sad but brings up a larger point. If a family has it do you force all of them to stay home? What does that timeline look like? 2-3 weeks with remote learning while everyone is in school?

What about teachers that get it. Long term disability? 2 weeks of sick leave seems on the high end for the ISD.
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We get 5 days from the state each year and MOST not all districts give an additional 5. Some offer leave banks. And the fact is most districts really don't want you to ever use the days. It is by far worse to plan for and deal with the aftermath of having a sub in your classroom than it is to teach if you are just a "little bit" sick. Meaning short of being in the hosptial. I had one principal who expected me to teach with a diagnosis of walking pneumonia and bronchitis.

So even though in 2011 I broke my hip and had to use all my days due to the first repair job not working....I am back up to 58 saved days. I will lose them when I retire either at the end of this next year or midyear after that. I was going to make this my last year, but I really want it to be a real year, not some virtual hybrid so might try another year after this.

Most district will take the docked pay out of your summer checks, but if you don't have the days to cover being out, you lose a day's pay.

Many young teachers catch everything the kids have that first year and wind up losing some of the not very high pay for first year teachers.
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I have an employee that just took Long Term Disability. Don't think it would apply to teachers in this scenario. LTD means they are no longer employed by the company. Up until then, they may have Short Term Disability options though.
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Cy fair approved their calendar tonight

It is unchanged other than adding 15 minutes to the day for elementary and 10 for middle and high school. That gives them 8 days of school that don't need to be made up unless they shutdown for 9+ days. June can be used if that happens.

Just glad I'm working from home indefinitely. I will be interested to see if TEA try's for force crap like groups going every other day and stuff like that.
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88planoAg said:

amercer said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/children-are-only-half-as-likely-to-get-infected-by-the-coronavirus-research-shows/2020/06/16/be86aff4-afb6-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

Very positive news. Still doubt any administrator is going to be brave enough to propose 5 day a week in classroom school in the fall.


Haven't Houston isds done that? Just extended the day minutes and padded the breaks with extra weeks?
Our district (Tomball) left the calendar exactly the same...no extra days or added minutes. Others like Spring and CyFair have added days and/or minutes.

However, they have not said that the kids will be in school everyday. They floated the idea of alternating weeks in school/online learning, but no official announcement has been made.

The school calendar vs classroom/online learning are two different decisions.

No district in the area has come out and said that all kids will be in the classrooms 5 days a week that I'm aware of.
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tylercsbn9 said:

Cy fair approved their calendar tonight

It is unchanged other than adding 15 minutes to the day for elementary and 10 for middle and high school. That gives them 8 days of school that don't need to be made up unless they shutdown for 9+ days. June can be used if that happens.

Just glad I'm working from home indefinitely. I will be interested to see if TEA try's for force crap like groups going every other day and stuff like that.


I spoke to a relative who is in leadership at TEA last night about this asking ifTEA is mandating district's open in certain ways, in certain times. Their answer was quick, TEA is mandating only the number of hours schools are required to spend educating students. The manner in which it is handled is up to each district.

As far as rbey knew the Thursday meeting was onand though vague about topics, had heard funding mechanisms were on the agenda.

The caveat here is executive order from Abbott of course.

Also on another note the purchase of PPE gear by the state using CARE funds was met with some pushback by districts who wanted those monies to be used at their discretion.
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Conroe ISD sent out a survey to parents asking a number of questions. One question asked: "If state law allowed school districts to give parents a choice about the type of schooling their child receives for the 2020-2021 school year, what type would you pick?"
A. Traditional in person school week and calendar.
B. A full-time rigorous distance learning/online model (a minimum of 420 minutes of daily instruction/activities).

The bolded language is so out of touch. My kids are elementary level, and they don't even get that much at school.
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Bassmaster said:

"A full-time rigorous . . ."


As an educator I hate the term "rigorous." Online learning for many, many students is neither rigorous nor learning.
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Moreover, elementary level kids don't do anything rigorously.
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TXTransplant said:




The school calendar vs classroom/online learning are two different decisions.

No district in the area has come out and said that all kids will be in the classrooms 5 days a week that I'm aware of.
Well that sucks.
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Bassmaster said:

Moreover, elementary level kids don't do anything rigorously.
Yep. Most elementary kids need levels of support that does not occur in the online setting. Without an adult mentor guiding them through the learning process, many students are not capable of acquiring and applying new information. They also lack the academic agency to seek out information on their own. Thus, in an online setting, young learners have to rely on their parents for guidance. At my level, (middle school), many students rarely read the instructions, were often confused, and produced work that was average at best, and I felt that we were very organized and prescriptive with our lessons and guidance.
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88planoAg said:

TXTransplant said:




The school calendar vs classroom/online learning are two different decisions.

No district in the area has come out and said that all kids will be in the classrooms 5 days a week that I'm aware of.
Well that sucks.


Saw this just a few minutes ago. FBISD is another Houston-area district. Headline is a bit misleading, as they haven't announced anything firm. Just floating the option of online school for those parents who don't feel comfortable sending their kids back - which I think is the same dilemma all the districts are facing.

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/sugarland/news/article/Fort-Bend-ISD-elementary-students-to-return-to-15343213.php?cmpid=trend
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There is a large group of FBISD parents that will insist on their kids going to school once they believe their children are falling behind relative to peers.

Yes, that's true to some extent everywhere. But FBISD has multiple Elementary schools that will send upwards of 100 kids to a 3rd-5th grade math contest. Very few places in America have that kind of competitive academic culture.
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Quote:

I spoke to a relative who is in leadership at TEA last night about this asking ifTEA is mandating district's open in certain ways, in certain times. Their answer was quick, TEA is mandating only the number of hours schools are required to spend educating students. The manner in which it is handled is up to each district.
Except TEA is very much mandating opening under certain guidelines.

As of today, it is true you can have up to a 22 to 1 student/teacher ratio with the caveat that each student needs 45 sq of space. Great if the classroom is 1,000 sq. Buildings built post 2000 will have rooms with avg sq of 700. Building prior to that will be someone where between 500 sq to 600 sq. Thus only allowing 12-15 kids in a room at a time, This is why districts are planning for alternative day schedules to accommodate total student populations.

Yes, districts can make their own plans so long as they align with current TEA guidelines. Those hoping for a back to normal start will be disappointed as of today. Hopefully things will progress to allow for more students.
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I typically have 28 to 33 students in each of my 5 classes daily. Something will have to give.
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Pediatricians in the UK are not staying quiet.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jun/17/children-need-back-to-school-plan-urgently-doctors-tell-boris-johnson
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A Day B Day approach. Would allow for you to have 15-17 a day.
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It's going to be tough...it is the very definition of moving goal posts in a game that nobody knows how to keep score in.

Guidelines come down from federal and state health agencies, governor that are often contradictory.

The nuance and white noise in all of this is pretty immense.

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We do A and B day already. 4 90 minute classes each day. I have six sections each day, a plc planning day and a conference period day. I have around 30 to 31 in the classes unless it is a coteach section. My largest coteach was 26. I don't anticipate having coteach next year but who knows.

So if we just had half of them come every other class and the class meets every other day, that would have them there about once a week. So glad I am not an adminsitrator.

We need better guides from TEA so we can have more kids in the rooms. My room only holds 30 desks so in the classes with 31 someone sits at teh coteach desk.
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right now the 45 sq per student is greatly reducing overall class size.
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We barely had enough teachers to cover sections last year. And 6 A schools will all have that same issue. Smaller classes would mean more teachers. Not going to happen.
 
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