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12:20p, 8/15/20
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When they quarantine all those that were directly exposed do they still "attend" virtually? It seems like the students obviously could.

I don't know the answer, but I'm a teacher and I wonder what will happen if one of my students tests positive. I suppose I could still teach remotely and have a sub as a supervisor in the unaffected classes. I think most high school teachers would tell you it's more work to have a sub.
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In reply to gvine07 • 12:27p, 8/15/20
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gvine07 said:
When they quarantine all those that were directly exposed do they still "attend" virtually? It seems like the students obviously could.

I don't know the answer, but I'm a teacher and I wonder what will happen if one of my students tests positive. I suppose I could still teach remotely and have a sub as a supervisor in the unaffected classes. I think most high school teachers would tell you it's more work to have a sub.
Yes, kids are auto switched to e-learning. exposure is considered less than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Idk/haven't heard if any teachers are affected by this incident.
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In reply to Charpie • 12:57p, 8/15/20
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RRISD. After 3 weeks, but we chose to keep the kid home for the full 9. The way the district is implementing back to school learning is stupid. They are keeping kids (High schoolers) in one classroom and parking them in front of a computer. They will take their classes virtually and not be allowed to move around campus. So she might as well stay home.

I am glad she chose to get a job. She's getting out of the house and socializing. She's doing much better now that she's out of the house more.


Makes sense. I'm hoping the Dripping board doesn't vote to extend the virtual to the first nine weeks, but signs all point to them doing so. With elementary aged kids that want to be back and teachers who want to be back not sure why this has become so damn political.
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3:34p, 8/15/20
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Plano is spot on.

Interesting stat: In school 80%, 20% home, the same split on political lines for Kendall county.
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In reply to gvine07 • 4:14p, 8/15/20
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gvine07 said:
When they quarantine all those that were directly exposed do they still "attend" virtually? It seems like the students obviously could.

I don't know the answer, but I'm a teacher and I wonder what will happen if one of my students tests positive. I suppose I could still teach remotely and have a sub as a supervisor in the unaffected classes. I think most high school teachers would tell you it's more work to have a sub.
In my district, students who are quarantined will "attend" classes remotely. They may have to be switched to a different teacher on a different campus for their remote learning, so we have been tasked as grade level and a subject to be aligned across campuses.

Also, I believe if a classroom is directly exposed, all students and the teacher will be sent into quarantine. Each campus has been assigned two permanent subs (this will not be enough) to use as the campus wishes. I don't think a teacher that is in quarantine will be required to teach their classes remotely. We will probably have to use our PTO and then get docked after we exhaust our leave.

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In reply to rojo_ag • 5:05p, 8/15/20
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I don't see districts making teachers take their sick/personal days for something they can't control. Some may have to with budget cuts coming, but I'd be surprised. I guess we'll see...
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In reply to gvine07 • 5:24p, 8/15/20
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gvine07 said:
I don't see districts making teachers take their sick/personal days for something they can't control. Some may have to with budget cuts coming, but I'd be surprised. I guess we'll see...
I hope you are right. I have enough days for 4 quarantine periods my wife (also a teacher) does not. I have asked HR and admin what is going to happen regarding days, and no one has been willing to answer. I have heard about the CARES Act and some compensation for days out for exposure or illness. Perhaps we will be given an additional two weeks, but I have not seen anything in writing. I also have been informed that if an employee is exposed elsewhere),you must use your days. It's such a murky situation that I think the best solution according to the HR department is praying it doesn't happen to our district.
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In reply to rojo_ag • 5:45p, 8/15/20
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I hope teachers are given extreme leniency on PTO...regardless of where caught...that would be a nightmare to prove. Whether forced quarantine due to exposure In schoolor a positive test....PTO should not be used
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In reply to gvine07 • 6:25p, 8/15/20
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gvine07 said:
I don't see districts making teachers take their sick/personal days for something they can't control. Some may have to with budget cuts coming, but I'd be surprised. I guess we'll see...


Almost positive cy fair gave teachers 10 or 14 days that don't count against them if they get COVID19
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7:15p, 8/15/20
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Some may have to with budget cuts
Why do you think budget cuts to be coming? I'm assuming you're in Texas maybe you aren't.
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7:36p, 8/15/20
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We've been told that if we get sick we will have 80 hours from the FFCRA and then we go to PTO. If we have to quarantine or we don't want to use sick days work from home. I suppose the real issue is if you get sick and you can't work for more than two weeks. One of my coworkers spent a month in the hospital for covid. Had it been during the school year his pay would have been docked.
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In reply to MasterAggie • 8:14p, 8/15/20
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Some may have to with budget cuts
Why do you think budget cuts to be coming? I'm assuming you're in Texas maybe you aren't.


The US GDP went down at an annual rate of 32.9% in 2Q 2020. The price of oil is down and I don't think the economists expect a huge improvement in the next 2.5 years. Texas revenues are going to be down big.

In January the Texas Legislature is going to have a (ballpark estimate) $20b+ projected shortfall for the biennium. Texans don't like to be taxed more, so not much more will come from that. The state government is so lean a lot of that shortfall will hit public ed and higher ed.

School districts will have the choice to raise taxes, but that all but ensures the school board members won't be re-elected in many places.

Budget cuts are coming Fall of 2021. Teachers - kick butt at your job this year.
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In reply to gvine07 • 8:39p, 8/15/20
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gvine07 said:
MasterAggie said:
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Some may have to with budget cuts
Why do you think budget cuts to be coming? I'm assuming you're in Texas maybe you aren't.


The US GDP went down at an annual rate of 32.9% in 2Q 2020.


Here's your problem.
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8:49p, 8/15/20
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In which the teachers unions admit it's politics.

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In reply to gvine07 • 8:51p, 8/15/20
gvine07 said:
MasterAggie said:
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Some may have to with budget cuts
Why do you think budget cuts to be coming? I'm assuming you're in Texas maybe you aren't.


The US GDP went down at an annual rate of 32.9% in 2Q 2020. The price of oil is down and I don't think the economists expect a huge improvement in the next 2.5 years. Texas revenues are going to be down big.

In January the Texas Legislature is going to have a (ballpark estimate) $20b+ projected shortfall for the biennium. Texans don't like to be taxed more, so not much more will come from that. The state government is so lean a lot of that shortfall will hit public ed and higher ed.

School districts will have the choice to raise taxes, but that all but ensures the school board members won't be re-elected in many places.

Budget cuts are coming Fall of 2021. Teachers - kick butt at your job this year.


It will be 2008 all over again except these layoffs will stick.
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9:11p, 8/15/20
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The US GDP went down at an annual rate of 32.9% in 2Q 2020. The price of oil is down and I don't think the economists expect a huge improvement in the next 2.5 years. Texas revenues are going to be down big.

In January the Texas Legislature is going to have a (ballpark estimate) $20b+ projected shortfall for the biennium. Texans don't like to be taxed more, so not much more will come from that. The state government is so lean a lot of that shortfall will hit public ed and higher ed.
I understand why you think this but no. Not going to work out this way.
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In reply to MasterAggie • 9:25p, 8/15/20
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You don't think there's going to be budget cuts in the 21/22 school year?!?!?? Where does that money come from?
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8:04p, 8/17/20
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And UNC calls it quits after one week and a couple hundred cases.

Not sure what they were expecting. Maybe this was a dog and pony show to justify tuition? Because they had to know that they would have cases.
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In reply to amercer • 8:15p, 8/17/20
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I think some places call this fraud
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In reply to amercer • 8:23p, 8/17/20
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amercer said:
And UNC calls it quits after one week and a couple hundred cases.

Not sure what they were expecting. Maybe this was a dog and pony show to justify tuition? Because they had to know that they would have cases.


Yea, I don't get it. What did they think was going to happen?
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9:23a, 8/18/20
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the HISD plan for virtual learning of elementary school kids is absolutely unworkable

good job everyone
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In reply to cone • 9:52a, 8/18/20
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What is the plan?
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In reply to cone • 11:19a, 8/18/20
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the HISD plan for virtual learning of elementary school kids is absolutely unworkable

good job everyone
You are an engineer, problem solve and have a can-do attitude.
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In reply to cone • 11:31a, 8/18/20
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cone said:
the HISD plan for virtual learning of elementary school kids is absolutely unworkable

good job everyone


Nice recap. Thanks.
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11:40a, 8/18/20
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Pretty sure if you poll most students in big districts, me included, virtual learning is an absolute disaster.

The school board got bombarded last night with some high quality commentary from parents regarding the extension of the four week virtual learning. They're voting next week and if extended (West Austin) then this community will riot.
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12:07p, 8/18/20
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In reply to Keegan99 • 12:11p, 8/18/20
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Keegan99 said:


If you can't trust Professor Snape, who can you trust?
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In reply to Bruce Almighty • 1:42p, 8/18/20
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amercer said:
And UNC calls it quits after one week and a couple hundred cases.

Not sure what they were expecting. Maybe this was a dog and pony show to justify tuition? Because they had to know that they would have cases.


Yea, I don't get it. What did they think was going to happen?

They thought they would get the checks in the bank before students and parents realized they were paying five figures plus room and board to get zero college experiences and networking opportunities.
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1:45p, 8/18/20
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Know someone who is one of the UNC cases. She's sick for sure, but not dying.
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In reply to gvine07 • 5:13p, 8/18/20
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Just following up a post from last week - the "academy" daycare that watches school district employees' kids had 3 positive cases on the 13th. I assumed they had to be closed for 2 weeks, but it turns out they're opening tomorrow. I take it as a positive.

Unrelated, I'm a high school teacher and we just had 2 days of school 100% online. We split into block scheduling (4 A Day classes, and 4 B Day classes) and have 95 minutes per class/day. To my amazement I had 100% attendance in 3 classes (30, 29, and 19 students). Obviously it's tough to assess how much learning is happening after one class, but it's going smoother than any of us hoped.

Let's hope we can all safely return to the classroom soon.
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5:37p, 8/18/20
Notre Dame closes classes and moves everything to remote learning for 2 weeks due to 149 cases since opening Aug 3, for a population of 12k students. Over that same period the US saw 700k cases.

Anyone else think the expectations of college administrators is a bit unrealistic???
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In reply to NASAg03 • 5:49p, 8/18/20
NASAg03 said:
Notre Dame closes classes and moves everything to remote learning for 2 weeks due to 149 cases since opening Aug 3, for a population of 12k students. Over that same period the US saw 700k cases.

Anyone else think the expectations of college administrators is a bit unrealistic???


Did you compare 149/12000 (maybe need to add staff population too) to 700000/330000000?

Not saying I agree with their decision, just don't think you used the best reasoning.
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In reply to Complete Idiot • 6:39p, 8/18/20
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NASAg03 said:
Notre Dame closes classes and moves everything to remote learning for 2 weeks due to 149 cases since opening Aug 3, for a population of 12k students. Over that same period the US saw 700k cases.

Anyone else think the expectations of college administrators is a bit unrealistic???


Did you compare 149/12000 (maybe need to add staff population too) to 700000/330000000?

Not saying I agree with their decision, just don't think you used the best reasoning.
10X the rate, but you can't really compare the entire US population since those cases are centered in areas of high population density (like a university).

10 cases / day out of a population of 12k doesn't seem excessive. Just wondering what their expectation was.
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In reply to NASAg03 • 6:50p, 8/18/20
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NASAg03 said:
Notre Dame closes classes and moves everything to remote learning for 2 weeks due to 149 cases since opening Aug 3, for a population of 12k students. Over that same period the US saw 700k cases.

Anyone else think the expectations of college administrators is a bit unrealistic???


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7:59p, 8/18/20
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The risk assessment is mind boggling

Can we keep a scoreboard on college campuses of strep throat, UTIs, and STDs

I don't want anyone to get Covid, but damn it the college ecosystem is perfect for these healthy people to keep it there and not home where they will be out doing the same things they would at college
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