Reopening Schools

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EdmondsWay
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"Not going to happen" is no longer in our planning vocabulary.
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EdmondsWay said:

right now the 45 sq per student is greatly reducing overall class size.
So where are these reduced classes going? The schools in my district do not have empty rooms. People are already teaching on the stage, from a cart, in book rooms and other closets.
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Assigning a segment of students to campus via staggered schedule. For example 1/2 have the population assigned to campus 2 days a week other 1/2 at home and all at home one day week.
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EdmondsWay said:

"Not going to happen" is no longer in our planning vocabulary.
How do you plan to hire 1000s more teachers then?



No one wants to give more money to education. In fact the state just withheld money from the CARES Act that was previously supposed to go to districts in order to help balance the state budget.
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There is also talk about severely limiting electives as well to give over class room space to core classes as well.

There are so many layers to this from schools as social safety nets for the poor, to risk of older teachers, to how to handle transportation....complex enough that every choice will have a pluarality of people up in arms regardless of the choice made.
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Garland ISD just posted their plan:

Important announcement: Garland ISD families will select from two options for their children when returning to school in August:
Option 1: Full-time in-person on campuses, with heightened hygiene and disinfection protocols
Option 2: Full-time virtual eLearning with district-provided technology and internet hotspots, as needed.
GISD has been advocating with the Texas Education Agency and state leadership to be able to offer these two options.
Specific details on these two choices will be communicated once final guidance from the Texas Education Agency is shared; this is anticipated next Tuesday, June 23, 2020. We understand districts across the state have announced their plans. GISD has always done the right thing for its families at the right time, which will occur when we receive that final guidance.
Information will be coming soon about the process for parents to enroll students in the virtual eLearning option, as well as the school calendar with start/end times and transportation protocols.
As always, please check the district website for updated information on return-to-school plans and FAQs once developed, and be sure your contact information is correct in Skyward.

https://www.garlandisd.net/content/coronavirus-covid-19
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I do wonder at what grade level can a district just provide one high risk AP teacher for each subject for remote learning and let positive kids take from one central source rather than trying to negotiate a camera in each class.

Grading and things can be managed by the classroom teacher?

I feel like we are as a society underestimating how many people have no intention to send their kids back and how many teachers also are in that boat.
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Knucklesammich said:

There is also talk about severely limiting electives as well to give over class room space to core classes as well.

There are so many layers to this from schools as social safety nets for the poor, to risk of older teachers, to how to handle transportation....complex enough that every choice will have a pluarality of people up in arms regardless of the choice made.


I've been thinking about that for the past few weeks, and my coworker and I were talking about it today. TEA needs to step in and relax the PE/fine arts/foreign language/electives requirements for graduation.

If there is any online learning this year (and I expect there will be), the focus needs to be on the math, science, and English core subjects.
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And right now the students have to have endorsements that not only require serious electives, but also many that have to be taken in a certain sequence. That makes scheduling even more difficult. However in elementary in particular, if you don't give those kids the breaks of music, PE and Art , it is really bad for their social emotinal growth.
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Yeah, I was specifically referring to high school, where scheduling is going to be the most difficult. Especially if it's decided that kids have to stay in the same classroom all day. I don't think my kid had the exact same schedule as any other kid last year...and that was at a 5A (now 6A) school.

But if he's going to have to do online learning, I want him focusing on pre-calculus, chemistry, and English/writing. And I want the standards he was held to to be increased (which will make online learning harder/more time consuming).

French class, however, is not important right now.
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TXTransplant said:

Yeah, I was specifically referring to high school, where scheduling is going to be the most difficult. Especially if it's decided that kids have to stay in the same classroom all day. I don't think my kid had the exact same schedule as any other kid last year...and that was at a 5A (now 6A) school.

But if he's going to have to do online learning, I want him focusing on pre-calculus, chemistry, and English/writing. And I want the standards he was held to to be increased (which will make online learning harder/more time consuming).

French class, however, is not important right now.
It would be absolutely impossible to have the kids in the same room all day without basically getting rid of electives for both MS and HS. The amount of combinations when considering all the electives as well as AP/Honors/K level (whatever they call the advanced classes for core subjects) is basically infinite. Especially in schools with 2K+ kids.
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There are various ways districts can abide by the current guidelines without hiring more staff. Current guidelines will not allow for traditional school setting. It will involve a combination of in school and virtual learning for large percentage of students. It will be different than the norm for sure. Again, this is all predicated on current guidelines/restrictions. Hopefully districts will be given more flexibility after next Tuesday's conference from commissioner Morath.
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Hopefully there will be enough teachers willing to come back for in class settings.
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Fwisd released their plan

https://www.fwisd.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=1326&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=62128&PageID=1
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Matsui said:

Fwisd released their plan

https://www.fwisd.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=1326&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=62128&PageID=1


This sounds like the route most ISD are going to be taking.
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Looks like Abbott gave the go ahead. With options for parents that want their kids to learn remotely.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/18/texas-schools-reopening-fall/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Any excerpt from an email just received after the governor's announcement from the Superintendent of Spring Branch ISD in Houston:

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Please understand, the Texas Education Agency (TEA) has not yet provided guidance as to how schools will be allowed to reopen. In SBISD we will not make any assumptions or announce our plans for reopening until we receive TEA guidance which is expected next Tuesday afternoon.

At the Board of Trustees Regular meeting on Monday, June 22, district leaders will provide an update to the SBISD Board of Trustees. Included in this update will be the results of our recent employee and family surveys as well as the feedback received from nearly 200 stakeholders through a series of Zoom feedback sessions conducted last week.


So I have a serious question: are they truly independent or so they have to follow TEA guidance? I'm not sure how this works.
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Abbott said today that when Texas schools resume in-person teaching in the Fall, that school districts will not be required to mandate that students wear masks or test them for Covid-19. He then went on to say that there would be many more health related safety precautions than in the past, but he didn't expand on that.

I assume he's doing this so that the state doesn't have to pay for masks, face shields, and other PPE gear.

3rd Generation Ag
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Yes, TEA has much power over schools. The areas of local control have been restricted over and over. TEA will say exactly how.

The one concern in my teacher groups is that if there is an outbreak, and teachers have to quarantine for 14 days, will subs be willing to go into classrooms that remain. Or will their have to be short term shut downs. I guess that is why TEA was sort of pushing for flexible schedules.
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Already posted on the Houston board...

Grand Oaks HS (Conroe ISD) football player has tested positive. The kids were in groups of 15 apparently. No word on where he was exposed.

Cy Ridge Volleyball players have tested positive. Friend did not say how many.

Texas had 13 football players test positive and now another 10 in self quarantine.

I posted earlier about two elementary age students testing positive as well. We were made aware because they could no longer attend summer school online. They are quite ill and their entire family is sick. (Spring ISD - kids live in Houston)
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murphyag said:

I assume he's doing this so that the state doesn't have to pay for masks, face shields, and other PPE gear.
Think it is more about kids won't wear them correctly or take them off (more specifically elementary aged).
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Absolutely none of this suprises me or most people.

Let individuals / families choose what they want to do. There is 100% a higher chance of infection being active and out and among others vs hunkering down in a basement.

It stinks but we have a virus with no cure. Make your choice on how you want to handle.
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Now tell us how many total kids in sports there are. Then do division and other mathematics. Multiply that by job losses and tell us why teeny numbers of athletic teenagers getting the Rona matters. I'll hang up and listen.
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I'm curious about how schools are encouraged to react when a student tests positive?
culdeus
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Smokedraw01 said:

I'm curious about how schools are encouraged to react when a student tests positive?


Gotta assume they ask them to stay home two weeks and maybe get a negative test.
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Smokedraw01 said:

I'm curious about how schools are encouraged to react when a student tests positive?
Hopefully the same way they do when a kid has lice...or strep...or flu...

Send a damn email from the nurse making everyone aware and keep it moving.
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Smokedraw01 said:

I'm curious about how schools are encouraged to react when a student tests positive?


And I'm curious what will happen regarding the rest of he school? Will they be forced to close for a number of days? If they don't close the school, then will there be a lot of kids absent because parents don't want to send them due to Covid positive(s) at the school? Schools get money based on student attendance.
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Me just guessing....kids wont be moving around much in the schools most likely so....

If a kid gets sick, they may just require the entire room to quarantine for 2 weeks and not return until they get negative COVID tests. They will have to do some basic learning while under quarantine unless sick...
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planoaggie123 said:

Me just guessing....kids wont be moving around much in the schools most likely so....

If a kid gets sick, they may just require the entire room to quarantine for 2 weeks and not return until they get negative COVID tests. They will have to do some basic learning while under quarantine unless sick...
That doesn't work for junior high.
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CypressCPAg said:

Smokedraw01 said:

I'm curious about how schools are encouraged to react when a student tests positive?
Hopefully the same way they do when a kid has lice...or strep...or flu...

Send a damn email from the nurse making everyone aware and keep it moving.


Why are you so eager not to be safe? You understand that if we are not careful there are dozens of teachers in this area that are over 50 and have health issues and could very easily die and their spouse along with them.

This is not the flu - history has proven it. 120,000 dead and another 80,000 by October.

Let me know if the flu ever kills that many that quickly.

We have already doubled people in the hospital in 3 weeks... even with discharges and there are still not an additional 60,000 young idiots and another 10,000 12 years and younger running to school getting something and then coming home to an unhealthy mom and dad and grandma...
that is how you overwhelm the system. The doctors must be crapping their pants come September. All because - a few people don't care what they do and who they do it to.
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It's more contagious and less deadly than the flu.
cc_ag92
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That will be a new strategy because public schools don't send those emails anymore.
Keegan99
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Every study that has examined children transmitting it to adults has found minimal risk.

Moreover, the European countries that have reopened schools have seen no significant issues as a result.
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Beat the Hell said:

It's more contagious and less deadly than the flu.


So if more people can get it ... unlike the flu that means that even if it spread like fire it can still kill more people than the flu.

Flu infects 10 people kills one
COVID can infect 20-30 people and kill 2-3 depending on comobides.

You Are defeating you own logic. The faster it can spread it raised the death total. Hence 120,000 dead ... with now another 80,000 to go. Facts are facts. The flu does not kill 200,000 people in 9-10 months.

Like I said - some people are so eager to see everyone else burn and I just do not know why. We can be safe and open... but some people see being safe and being weak or ... being intelligent and for some reason it makes them very angry.
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dead... with now another 80,000 to go. Facts are facts.


I laughed.
 
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