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***Game Of Thrones - Ssn 2 (4 Those That Havent Read The Book NO SPOILERS)**

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For whomever asked about Theon, that is exactly how you are meant to feel. Alfie Allen has actually done a better job that what is written in the books of projecting the exact feeling that you have. IMO he has actually been a stronger actor than Peter Dinklage (Tyrion) this season because Tyrion is so well written. It takes some true acting skill to be able to do what Alfie Allen has done, Theon is an incredibly complex character that is torn between doing what he feels is right based on how he was raised at Winterfell vs doing what he feels he is supposed to do as an Ironborn. All he really wants is to be accepted.
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I found watching the episodes with the Closed Captioning in helps with the dialogue.
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I found watching the episodes with the Closed Captioning in helps with the dialogue.

I always watch it CC as well. Started doing that when watching the Sopranos and Deadwood....it served me well with Sons of Anarchy and Justified too.
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I literally have no idea what to expect next with Daenerys' storyline. Speculations on the guy walking off with the dragons? New character or someone we already know?


Did we see Ser Jorah in the episode? I'm wondering if he is taking them to prevent someone else from trying to do it. He has a rather rocky past and there seems to be ample allegiance changes so I think it might be him. He was also under the employ of Lord Varys last season.
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How many episodes left?
BillOnCapitolHill
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4 episodes left this season.
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We did not see Ser Jorah at the end of the episode when she found her people slain and the dragons missing. Not sure if he would do it, but him and Dany have been having a little tension between them the last two episodes. I also think there had to be multiple people to kill all the Dothraki people.
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Didn't they say those Warlocks lived in a tower drinking stuff that made their lips blue? Looked like a skinny dude walking to a tower, didn't it? I can't remember for sure.
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I don't know how you guys know all these people names.

Just when i'm starting to get a hold on people's names, they introduce a whole new city/group of people. After S1 i was getting comfortable with all the names, then they introduced Stannis's camp. Now that i'm learning who all those people are they introduce Qarth and a zillion more names to learn..
BillOnCapitolHill
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Its fairly easy, there are only a few handfuls per character:

Stannis scenes (4):
Stannis: Robert's next in line.
Melisandre: the Red Priestess.
Davos: Stannis' right-hand, former pirate.
Sallador Saan: black pirate who's ships fuel Stannis' navy.

Dany scenes (3):
Xaro: black dude, richest man in Qarth.
Spice Merchant: fat dude, received Dany at the gates.
Pyat Pree: bald warlock with blue mouth.

Jon Snow scenes (3):
Craster: incestuous wildling that occasionally helps the Nights Watch.
Quorin 'Half-hand': ranger that takes Jon out to kill the "King-Beyond-the-Wall."
Ygritte: red-headed wildling female.

Theon Greyjoy scenes (3):
Balon Greyjoy: Theon's father, king.
Yara Greyjoy: Theon's sister, vying for heir to Iron Islands.
Dagmar: Theon's first-mate.

Arya scenes (2):
Jaqen H'ghar: former prisoner to be sent to the Wall, now a Lannister sword and murderer for Arya.
The Tickler: torturer, sadist, interrogator.

Catelyn scenes (3):
Margery Tyrell: Renley's wife.
Ser/Lady Brienne: huge b-tch, knight of Renley's Kingsguard.
Roose Bolton: Robb Stark's bannerman, 2nd largest/populated lord in the North, sent his illegit son to reclaim Winterfell for Robb


I hope that helps.
Say Chowdah
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At the risk of being accused of political correctness, why are the people of Sub Sahara Africa orgin called "the black dude" when the European aren't called "the White Dude?"
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Probably because there's only been two black characters and that's a pretty easy way to describe them so everyone knows who they are. It would be pretty redundant if he wrote, "that white dude" next to every new white character because everyone is white except for those two new guys.
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In this case, I think it has to do with the fact that the cast is mostly white. If the cast was predominantly black, I would think you would see "the white dude" used as a reference.

That's how I read it at least
redeyefry
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nevermind.

Singer10 and Gumbles type faster than I do.

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BillOnCapitolHill
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Somehow saying "black dude" is taboo but "huge b-tch" perfectly fine. Buncha sexists...
Trident 88
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In case you folks are interested, someone I know writes a summary like the one below after each episode. I have read all the books, but I still enjoy his summaries and find them helpful in remembering the story and all the various characters.

Just a copy/paste from my email, so if it's TLDR, so be it.

Game of Thrones Scorecard (episode 6):
I find it interesting how the dynamics of filming a story, trying to turn something incredibly complex into an hour of TV, must start to influence the story itself. The fact is, Arya was never Lord Tywin's cupbearer in the books. However, I find the most compelling screen time of late is that when Maisie Williams and Charles Dance are doing their thing. Riveting stuff. So for those who might bemoan some diversions from the book - I understand it, but you have to look at it fairly and give these guys credit for turning storytelling concessions into strengths.

The scorecard:

Winterfell

The episode opens with Maester Luwin rushing into the rookery. He slams the door shut on the sounds of battle, scratches a frantic message, attaches it to the leg of a raven and tosses the raven into the air.

Theon and the men of Pyke have come to Winterfell. Theon awakens Bran with the news that he rules in Winterfell now. He advises Bran that Bran must publicly state that Winterfell has yielded, and that the people must follow Theon's orders. This is the way to keep them safe, and it's what a good Lord would do for his people. Bran asks Theon "did you hate us the whole time?"

Bran yields the castle, and despite some rebellious talk, the people seem to be cowed. Osha the wildling offers service to Theon, which he summarily rejects. Bran feels betrayed by Osha, but she reminds him that he had a dream about the ocean drowning people in the courtyard of Winterfell, and she doesn't want to be one of those now that the ocean (Pyke) has come. Theon orders Luwin to send Ravens to Pyke (to alert Balon that he's taken Winterfell) and to his sister Yara at Deepwood Motte, which she took with her 30 ships. From her, he wants 500 men to help cement his hold on Winterfell.

One specifically mentioned by Bran as being drowned in his dream was Rodrik Cassel. Rodrik has been captured by Theon's men on his way back from Torrhen's Square. Clearly, the taking of Torrhen's Square by Theon and his men was a feint, to get the Starks to strip Winterfell of its men in order to rescue the small city. Rodrik burns with disgust at Theon, and spits in his face. Theon orders him locked in a cell, but Dagmer (Theon's first mate) demurs, insisting to Theon that Rodrik must pay "the iron price" for his disrespect of Theon in front of his men.

Theon feels trapped. He doesn't want to kill Rodrik, but he craves respect and fealty. He executes Rodrik himself, though it takes four whacks and a stomp to get the job done. Must not have Valyrian steel. Before he executes him, Rodrik shares his last words. "Gods help you, Theon Greyjoy. Now you are truly lost."

And what do you think of Theon? It's not black and white...is it? Sure, Ned was kinder to him than he had to be. After all, the Starks lost men fighting the war the Greyjoys started. Ned was more than fair. And yet, it's true that Theon was not in Winterfell by his choice. It's true that he was a hostage, not a guest. To whom does he owe his loyalty? If you were a POW, how would you act?

Later, Osha repeats her offer of service, this time in the bedroom. Her price is her freedom. Theon agrees, after getting a look at her naked body. She wears him out, then sneaks out of the bedroom. She is stopped by a guard, and she slits his throat. We last see her slipping away...with Bran, Rickon, Hodor, Summer and Sh****dog.

North of the Wall

Jon, Qhorin and the rest of the hit squad are making their way to the sentry post of the wildlings. Ghost has wandered off to do his own thing. Qhorin is setting Jon straight about the truths of the North. There is no glory, there is no recognition or thanks. He'll die without anyone South of the Wall knowing that they are safe because he gave his life to protect them.

Later, they ambush the wildling sentries. Jon captures one, who turns out to be a redheaded woman (I don't care how many girls you've dated, you ain't lived 'til you've had your tires rotated by a redheaded woman [/Springsteen]) named Ygritte. Ygritte says they should burn the bodies of the other wildlings they killed, so they don't come back as wights. They question Ygritte, who informs them that Mance has hundreds and thousands of wildlings gathered - more than they've ever seen. The next question - what's in the Frostfang Mountains that Mance Rayder wants? There is no answer. Qhorin points out that they don't have food for her, and can't spare a man to watch her...she needs to be killed. Qhorin starts to draw his sword, but Jon says he'll do it. The hit squad moves out, leaving Jon to do it. But he can't. Ygritte tries to recruit him to the wildlings, then makes a break, and it takes Jon a while to catch up with her (nice slide tackle, by the way). Now he's separated from his crew, and after trying to find them, there's nothing for it but to settle down for the night. After tying up Ygritte, he's forced to admit that he has to huddle with her for warmth. She torments him by wriggling up against him in a very suggestive way.

Harrenhal

Lord Tywin is in a dither. It seems that our friend Amory Lorch (leader of the crew that captured Arya, Gendry and the rest) is not so adept at the academic side of things. He has sent Tywin's notes around inventory movements to the wrong person. That would be bad enough, but it's worse - he sent the notes to someone who serves the Starks.

Lord Tywin clears the room when a new visitor is announced. Petyr Baelish has dropped by. Arya is quite alarmed, as Petyr might recognize her. Petyr is there to try to get Tywin to temporarily forgive the Tyrells. The Tyrells have the third largest army, behind the Lannisters and Starks, and which side they join will have a huge impact on the outcome of the war. Tywin points out the Tyrells have rebelled against his grandson, to which Littlefinger points out that they can always be punished after Stannis and Robb are defeated. Tywin tells him that he'll have an answer by nightfall. Petyr seems to be distracted each time he starts to focus on Arya, who tries to keep her back to him...does he recognize her?

After Baelish leaves, Arya is cleaning up. She notices some orders pertaining to Robb Stark's troop movements. Tywin appears and asks Arya about her dad. Was he alive? No. What killed him? Loyalty. Arya is a smart girl. She gets Tywin talking about his dad (he loved us, he was a good man, but he was a weak man, and nearly destroyed our House) so that she can steal the notes about Robb while Tywin is distracted. We also learn that Jaime suffers from dyslexia, but Tywin used the tough love approach to get him to read.

Arya flees with the note, but is stopped by Amory Lorch, who seizes the note from her hand. He tries to capture her, but she's too quick. He abandons the chase, and instead moves to tell Tywin about his treacherous cupbearer. Arya finds Jaqen H'ghar and gives him name number two, and none too soon. Amory opens Tywin's door, but as he steps into the room, Amory falls inward with the door - dead from a dart in his neck. Only one name left to give the Red God. Who will it be?

King's Landing

Princess Myrcella is sent off to Dorne amidst a host of well-wishers, including Joffrey, Tommen, Sansa, Tyrion and Cersei. A large priest provides the blessing.

Cersei tells Tyrion that she wishes for him a true love, so that he'll understand how she feels right now when she takes his love away from him.

Joffrey gets another couple of chances to show what a winning personality can accomplish when welded to benevolence and servant leadership. First he mocks his brother for crying that Myrcella has been sent away. Then he ignores the hunger of his subjects, and when one throws a cowpie at him, he orders them all killed. Tyrion has seen the desperation on the faces of the peasants, and he quickly sent Tommen back to the Keep under guard. But a full blown riot breaks out before everyone else can get clear.

The priest is brought to the ground, and dismembered. Tyrion gets the guards to whisk Cersei away, and the Hound puts Joffrey under his arm to protect him. "What are you doing? I want these people executed!" "They want the same for you.".

Only Tyrion thinks of Sansa, but she has been cut off, outside the protection of the Kingsguard. Tyrion is infused with an admixture of fear for Sansa (because he respects how she's dealing with her situation, and because without her they have nobody to trade for Jaime) and rage at Joffrey, for turning an insult into a riot with many deaths.

Sansa is chased into a barn by three men, intent on rape. They have her spread-eagled when the Hound appears and messily dispatches them. Tyrion gives the Hound an attaboy, but Clegane replies "I didn't do it for you."

Later, Shae is cleaning up the cut Sansa received during the riot. Sansa doesn't get where the anger came from. Shae points out that Sansa's horse eats better than the peasants and their children. Sansa feels unfairly hated, though, as she hates the king more than any of the peasants do. Shae tells her that she should shut up, that the wrong people could hear her say that. Sansa seems to be desperate to trust someone, and puts that trust in Shae. Shae says not to trust anyone.

Qarth

Daenerys and Xaro Xhoan Daxos are in the court of the Spice King - the unctuous, portly man who first denied Daeny access to Qarth. He seems to be in the habit of saying "no", this time when she asks him for ships. She indicates that she'll give him a 3x ROI, but he is unimpressed, considering her lack of an army and lack of known supporters in Westeros. Daeny points out that Illyrio, a cagey trader himself, saw fit to give her three petrified dragon eggs, and she turned that, against all odds, into three live dragons. "I'm no ordinary woman. My dreams come true." The Spice King denies her anyway.

Daeny makes the rounds in Qarth, but can't find any support. When she gets back to Xaro's estate, her people are dead, and her dragons are gone...stolen.


The Riverlands

Robb sees the lovely Lady Talesa as he's walking through his camp, and he flirts with her. Catelyn shows up in the nick of time to cockblock her son. She reminds him that he is promised to a woman of the Freys.


Roose Bolton shows up to relate the news that Luwin sent at the beginning of the episode - the capture of Winterfell by Theon. They don't have any news of Bran and Rickon, but they do know of Rodrik's death. Robb indicates that he needs to take his men back North to recapture Winterfell, but Bolton insists that his bas-tard son can recapture the city with the few hundred men he has at the Dreadfort. The Starks have the Lannisters on the run, and there is a war to be won. Robb okays this plan, stating that Bran and Rickon's safety is of the greatest importance, but that he wants Theon alive, so that he can ask him "why" before he takes his head.

Scenes from Next Week

•Theon and his men hunt for Bran and Rickon
•Jaime tries to talk his way out of Robb's prison
•Tyrion chastises Cersei for the way she's playing the Game of Thrones
•The Hound chats with Sansa
•Shae holds a knife to a throat...Sansa's?
•Jorah is ordered by Daeny to find her dragons

[This message has been edited by Trident 88 (edited 5/8/2012 6:50p).]

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Say Chowdah
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Somehow saying "black dude" is taboo but "huge b-tch" perfectly fine. Buncha sexists...


Well huge b***c is anthropologically neutral.

[This message has been edited by Say Chowdah (edited 5/8/2012 7:24p).]
BillOnCapitolHill
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"black" aint a dirty word in Westeros, plus they have already established Xaro and Sallador were from the Summer Isles.
Say Chowdah
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Didn't they say those Warlocks lived in a tower drinking stuff that made their lips blue? Looked like a skinny dude walking to a tower, didn't it? I can't remember for sure.



Watched it again tonight. This appears may be correct!
Anagrammatic Nudist
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I'm thinking them baby dragons are about to be burning some $h!t up trying to get back to momma. This should be fun to watch.
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At the risk of being accused of political correctness, why are the people of Sub Sahara Africa orgin called "the black dude" when the European aren't called "the White Dude?"
yeah, call them what they are... summer islanders.
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Did we see Ser Jorah in the episode? I'm wondering if he is taking them to prevent someone else from trying to do it.

Ser Jorah left to find a ship at the end of episode 5.

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That's correct BenJen Stark has not been seen in a long time and was ranging (what rangers do north of the wall) when he was last seen.

Craster said he stopped in for a night but that was it, has not been seen/heard from since.

Didn't Benjen's horse return to the wall at the end of Season 1 which pretty much prompted the Lord Commander to take the Night's Watch out in force?

[This message has been edited by RAB97 (edited 5/9/2012 12:47a).]
BillOnCapitolHill
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Benjen's horse returned before S01E05, thats why Jon was in a sour mood prior to his selection to the stewards, which was another low for the obvious reason. Mormont took them out in force because he wants to figure out why all the wildling villages are abandoned. They already killed a wight and he didnt want to sit idly by as the wildlings or the whitewalkers make their way to HIS wall. If Benjen cant bring back the intel on whats happening in the North, how is he to expect any other ranger to return with correct intel for him to make sound judgements...thus the 300 or so going North.
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The proper nomenclature is "Summer Island-American".
jschroeder
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He doesnt go by tyler perry any more?
Southlake
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Wondering who is walking off with the dragons?

Those of us who read the book don't know either because it didn't happen in the book.

All the more reasons for all of us to watch the series.
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Trident88, I appreciated the recap. I hope you post more of these as you receive them. Thanks
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He doesnt go by tyler perry any more?

ltgrenader
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So the one scene I had to rewind a couple of times was just after Geofrey and Tyrion escape the riot... Tyrion tells Geofrey about the importance on Jamie saying "You owe him quite a bit you know" I though only in a monetary way at first but He implied as truth to Geofrey that Jamie was his dad!
aggie93
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Yes that was the point. Joff owes Jaime "quite a bit" in many ways.
Stive
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That's exactly what he meant. And Joffrey knew it too. The conversation with Cersei earlier this season before he had all of the illegitimate kids killed tells you that he knows the rumors and whispers. His own uncle making a comment like that had to nail it home in my opinion. Which might be part of the reason why he was so inclined to not lend ANY help to Sansa.
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Cliffnotes on what this show is about? Fictional?

thanks
BillOnCapitolHill
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Medieval struggle for the throne of a fictional land, seven major houses all vying for the crown using warfare, alliances, betrayal, religions secrets to win it all.

Oh and boobies and a snarky dwarf...
 
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