*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)

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Of Course, Influencers Have Seen 'The Odyssey' Early

https://gizmodo.com/of-course-influencers-have-seen-the-odyssey-early-2000779829

"Then, on Monday night, influencers, creators, critics, and journalists alike started posting images from a 70mm IMAX screening of The Odyssey in New York City, leaving many confused. What happened to the idea of no social media influencer screenings?"


Taking that article on face value, it kind of gives creedance to what I was saying before. Which is that I don't think social media "influencers" in the very general sense of the term are going away. What studios can do though is stop explicitly using the complete shill influencers who have no real opinion and are bought and paid for by the studio. Instead they can grant early screening access to the social media influencers who more or less operate like traditional media and give their own independent opinions to their subscribers. I kind of took the original claim of "Nolan bans influencers!" as that, and not necessarily banning all social media. And I think that's what TCTTS was implying as well.
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So much noise around this one, I'm betting it's going to be kick ass and the consternation will all have been a colossal waste of time.
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The Collective said:

the consternation will all have been a colossal waste of time.


Internet message boards in a single sentence.
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Claude! said:

The Collective said:

the consternation will all have been a colossal waste of time.


Internet message boards in a single sentence.


I'm putting my final blue star ranking on my tombstone. Already in the will.

When all of you make the pilgrimage to my grave, you will be reminded of my contributions here.
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Countdown trailer

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It could end up being the greatest movie of all time. I will still say the casting of Helen of Troy is stupid.
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Damn they're gonna have Argos in it. Gonna be guaranteed tears for me then.
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wangus12 said:

Damn they're gonna have Argos in it. Gonna be guaranteed tears for me then.


I'd be more pissed if Nolan left out Argos than if he made the entire story about Odysseus dismantling the patriarchy while eating fruit cups.
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I went ahead and grabbed an IMAX ticket for this on the Saturday morning after it comes out. The Katy AMC IMAX screen (not true IMAX but closest to me) had most seats open.
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I guess I'm not entirely sure how that's any different?
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tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




That trailer is getting ratioed to hell. That was the first trailer I've seen for this movie. Man that looks bad. Like zero excitement or interest generated for me.

We can only hope this movie loses so much money at the box office that hollywood finally changes something.
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The trailers still do nothing for me either. Meanwhile I've watched the Dune 3 trailer 50 times. Now that's a trailer.
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Gig-Em2003 said:

The trailers still do nothing for me either. Meanwhile I've watched the Dune 3 trailer 50 times. Now that's a trailer.

Wasn't even aware a Dune 3 trailer was out, but I'm going to try and avoid it.
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It doesn't give much away IMO but I haven't read the book. You should watch it it's awesome.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




That trailer is getting ratioed to hell. That was the first trailer I've seen for this movie. Man that looks bad. Like zero excitement or interest generated for me.

We can only hope this movie loses so much money at the box office that hollywood finally changes something.


I hate to break it to you, but that's not gonna happen. There's no way this movie is a flop, or worse loses money. The only thing that might happen is it makes less than expected and only hits $700-800 million instead of a billion.
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The trailers still do nothing for me either.

Agreed. If Nolan's name wasn't attached to it I wouldn't consider seeing it in theaters. Lots of red flags for me.
At this point I'm 50/50 & will wait until some real reviews come out to make that decision.
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tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




My favorite comments;

"Countdown trailer - is that a threat"
"Spider-Man: Daddy's not home"
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YouBet said:

Claude! said:

The Collective said:

the consternation will all have been a colossal waste of time.


Internet message boards in a single sentence.


I'm putting my final blue star ranking on my tombstone. Already in the will.

When all of you make the pilgrimage to my grave, you will be reminded of my contributions here.

I met a poster from an online land
Who said: Many vast and blue starred posts
Stand on TexAgs. Near them, on the forums,
Half written, a deleted reply lies, whose content,
And curse words, and ban worthy images,
Tell that its writer well those posters read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless forums,
The hand that typed them and the trolls that fed:
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"My name is YouBet, legend of legends:
Look on my posts, ye Aggies, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
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FightinTexasAg15 said:

tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




My favorite comments;

"Countdown trailer - is that a threat"
"Spider-Man: Daddy's not home"


I liked:

"I'm checking my schedule to make sure I don't have time to watch this movie."
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Thunderstruck xx said:

tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




That trailer is getting ratioed to hell. That was the first trailer I've seen for this movie. Man that looks bad. Like zero excitement or interest generated for me.

We can only hope this movie loses so much money at the box office that hollywood finally changes something.


The trailer is getting "ratioed to hell" because of losers who still think Elliot Page is playing Achilles and because of the folks foaming at the mouth that a black woman is playing Helen of Troy. It's mostly classic, culture war downvoting nonsense, not so much people going that far out of their way to downvote it simply because they think it actually looks bad.

I'm not saying people can't think the movie looks bad on its own merits. If that's truly how you feel, fine. Even I'm a bit underwhelmed by the trailers as well.

But it's just so clear at this point that pre-hating on this thing - or at least going out of your way to not give one of the all-time best directors the benefit of the doubt - has become an ideological cause of sorts at this point. And judging by your posting history - spending the time you do on F16 - plus your desire to want it to fail, without having even seen it for yourself... I'm guessing you fall in that camp.

Otherwise, at worst, this looks.... fine. Average. So-so. In no world does it actually look as terrible as some of you are making it out to be.

All I know is I've never wanted a movie to come out more, if only to put an end to all of this mind-numbing discourse. Good or bad, at least all of the posturing will be over.
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Some person explain to me why "ratioed" is a bad verb these days.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Some person explain to me why "ratioed" is a bad verb these days.


Ratio is the ratio between likes and dislikes. If something has more dislikes than likes, then it's being "ratioed". i.e. social media disapproves of whatever has been posted.
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It describes the scenario where a video or post gets a significantly greater amount of downvotes versus upvotes. Generally, that takes place when a movie ventures into the culture war and audiences want to show their displeasure with said venture.

ETA: There are sometimes other reasons. I remember the Sonic the Hedgehog movie getting horribly ratioed because of the ****ty looking CGI from the original trailers. To the studio's credit, they listened and went back and improved things, if I remember correctly.
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Whoever she is playing in the movie doesn't matter, even if it is not Achilles. My gut tells me this movie will be bad, which of course means critics will lap it up just because there's so many well known actors in it, and it checks all their DEI boxes.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

Whoever she is playing in the movie doesn't matter, even if it is not Achilles. My gut tells me this movie will be bad, which of course means critics will lap it up just because there's so many well known actors in it, and it checks all their DEI boxes.


Don't be so sure of that. By that standard Supergirl would have been universally lapped up by critics, and well......
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Nolan's worst movie (Tenet by all accounts) is still more entertaining and interesting than about 90% of movies that come out. I just don't understand this take. Even if it isn't the best Nolan movie, its going to be a good time. Deciding to pre-hate it is just a waste of energy and making you miss out on the fun of the movies.

"Hollywood" isn't the monolith you want it to be. Sure there is a majority culture that is preachy. But not every filmmaker is in that mold. The insistence to throw Nolan in that bucket just says more about the people who do that than Nolan or his movie.
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TCTTS said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




That trailer is getting ratioed to hell. That was the first trailer I've seen for this movie. Man that looks bad. Like zero excitement or interest generated for me.

We can only hope this movie loses so much money at the box office that hollywood finally changes something.


The trailer is getting "ratioed to hell" because of losers who still think Elliot Page is playing Achilles and because of the folks foaming at the mouth that a black woman is playing Helen of Troy. It's mostly classic, culture war downvoting nonsense, not so much people going that far out of their way to downvote it simply because they think it actually looks bad.

I'm not saying people can't think the movie looks bad on its own merits. If that's truly how you feel, fine. Even I'm a bit underwhelmed by the trailers as well.

But it's just so clear at this point that pre-hating on this thing - or at least going out of your way to not give one of all-time best directors the benefit of the doubt - has become an ideological cause of sorts at this point. And judging by your posting history - spending the time you do on F16 - plus your desire to want it to fail, without having even seen it for yourself... I'm guessing you fall in that camp.

Otherwise, at worst, this looks.... fine. Average. So-so. In no world does it actually look as terrible as some of you are making it out to be.

All I know is I've never wanted a movie to come out more, if only to put an end to all of this mind-numbing discourse. Good or bad, at least all of the posturing will be over.

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Thunderstruck xx said:

tk for tu juan said:

Countdown trailer




That trailer is getting ratioed to hell. That was the first trailer I've seen for this movie. Man that looks bad. Like zero excitement or interest generated for me.

We can only hope this movie loses so much money at the box office that hollywood finally changes something.

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"One of the greatest movies I've ever seen."

"One of the greatest films of all time."

Granted, he's on the press tour talking *to* Nolan, and of course a certain amount of buttering up to be is expected in these situations. Still, McCarthy seems genuine here, I've always trusted his opinion/enthusiasm, he's no shill, is a true cinephile, etc. Whether that equates to audiences feeling the same way, we shall see. Either way, this is our first official reaction…

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As for the general reaction embargo, it lifts Monday afternoon.
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I might be showing my ignorance but I've never heard of this guy Kevin McCarthy. But I'll check out his Youtube page. How does a guy with only 20k subs get interviews with top people like Nolan and Spielberg and Cameron?
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460K Instagram followers
380K TikTok followers
64K Twitter followers
20K YouTube subs
... and a relatively notable podcast.

That's a pretty sizable footprint.

He's gone viral a few times too, but for genuine moments, not schlocky crap. To that end, he's not a sensational influencer type. Again, he's a real cinephile, knows his ****, directors really like talking to him, etc. He's kind of like a slightly-well-less-known Sean Fennessey type. Just a genuine, normal, good dude who truly loves movies.
 
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