TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 9:27p, 6/17/25
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Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html


What's the same level studies on alcohol and tobacco vs non users? And trans fats? And processed foods? I'll hang up and take my answer off the air.


You don't even need to go that far. The article says they did not track the method of consumption but assume the vast majority smoked it. Well duh, smoking anything causes the human body major issues.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:31p, 6/17/25
Tell Willie Nelson that!
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:41p, 6/17/25
Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html


Double from what to what though
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:48p, 6/17/25
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Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html


LOL. So do many legal things. I'm a grown-ass man capable of both making my own choices and understanding the concept of moderation. But maybe you need govt daddy to govern you harder
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 9:52p, 6/17/25
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DannyDuberstein said:
Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html


LOL. So do many legal things. I'm a grown-ass man capable of both making my own choices and understanding the concept of moderation. But maybe you need govt daddy to govern you harder
Down get your panties in a wad. If you like to make your own decisions, this is information you should have.
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9:53p, 6/17/25
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Wonder what Patrick would say if he drove through Louisiana and saw all the medical marijuana
signs.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:54p, 6/17/25
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That study didn't even capture how people consumed cannabis. Probably by smoking, which no ****, smoking can cause all sorts of issues whether it's weed, tobacco, or random pole. It's a garbage study.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:58p, 6/17/25
Martin Cash said:
DannyDuberstein said:
Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html


LOL. So do many legal things. I'm a grown-ass man capable of both making my own choices and understanding the concept of moderation. But maybe you need govt daddy to govern you harder
Down get your panties in a wad. If you like to make your own decisions, this is information you should have.


Nobody gives a **** about this "information" because it's utter bull**** and I bet if you follow the money you'd be shocked (but not I) about who funded and pushed this narrative.
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In reply to TA-OP • 10:07p, 6/17/25
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TA-OP said:
Rightists voted for Abbott. This failure is on them and each of you that did. And his Covid policies to boot. Thanks for voting to force me to wear a mask in public and closing down my kid's schools. /s


It's leftists fault for continuing to vote for such degenerate **** bags and refusing to hold the Democrat party responsible for their malfeasence, corruption, incompetence, and mass spread of misinformation. Republicans just simply have to be not as bad as a Democrat and that's a really really low ****ing bar. I agree that Republicans need to make better choices in the primary, but as far as general elecitons go, there is too much risk in empowering another scum bag Democrat just to make a statement to the Republican party. That being said, I'll just not vote in the next eleciton for anyone that supported this bill.
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10:23p, 6/17/25
So if he vetoes it, what are the odds they reconvene to vote to override it?
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In reply to oklaunion • 10:56p, 6/17/25
zero. they know better than to cross darth abbott.
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In reply to oklaunion • 11:11p, 6/17/25
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So if he vetoes it, what are the odds they reconvene to vote to override it?
they can't reconvene. Session is over. If Abbott vetoes, the bill is dead unless he calls a special session and specifically puts this on the agenda.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 11:38p, 6/17/25
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TA-OP said:
Rightists voted for Abbott. This failure is on them and each of you that did. And his Covid policies to boot. Thanks for voting to force me to wear a mask in public and closing down my kid's schools. /s


It's leftists fault for continuing to vote for such degenerate **** bags and refusing to hold the Democrat party responsible for their malfeasence, corruption, incompetence, and mass spread of misinformation. Republicans just simply have to be not as bad as a Democrat and that's a really really low ****ing bar. I agree that Republicans need to make better choices in the primary, but as far as general elecitons go, there is too much risk in empowering another scum bag Democrat just to make a statement to the Republican party. That being said, I'll just not vote in the next eleciton for anyone that supported this bill.
TexAgs rightists don't get to blame every leftist action on me and not expect the same in return. This is your fault. Own it.
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In reply to TA-OP • 12:43a, 6/18/25
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TA-OP said:
aggieforester05 said:
TA-OP said:
Rightists voted for Abbott. This failure is on them and each of you that did. And his Covid policies to boot. Thanks for voting to force me to wear a mask in public and closing down my kid's schools. /s


It's leftists fault for continuing to vote for such degenerate **** bags and refusing to hold the Democrat party responsible for their malfeasence, corruption, incompetence, and mass spread of misinformation. Republicans just simply have to be not as bad as a Democrat and that's a really really low ****ing bar. I agree that Republicans need to make better choices in the primary, but as far as general elecitons go, there is too much risk in empowering another scum bag Democrat just to make a statement to the Republican party. That being said, I'll just not vote in the next eleciton for anyone that supported this bill.
TexAgs rightists don't get to blame every leftist action on me and not expect the same in return. This is your fault. Own it.


I didn't vote for either of these clowns in the 2022 primary. Who did Democrats run for governor that election? Oh, yeah, it was Beto, who might be the only Texas politician that is a bigger ****** bag than Dan Patrick. Maybe if the Democrats offered a reasonable alternative, 1000% more honesty, and policy positions that aren't absolutely insane then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Republicans get away with suckage because the alternative is so much worse. I can't stand Texas Republicans and most Texans probably feel the same, but the Democrat party is completely antithetical to our way of life and belief system.

I do wish Texas conservatives would do a better job making selections in the primaries. That is the only place where positive change can be made when the alternative party is complete and total dog*****

This is the fault of corrupt politicians left and right that should have never been empowered.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 12:56a, 6/18/25
A small step toward realizing that most of us "leftists" aren't responsible for every little thing. We'll be back to rightists owning libs in a few minutes.
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In reply to TA-OP • 9:03a, 6/18/25
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TA-OP said:
I have never voted him. He's my least favorite politician with his hypocritical tort reforms.He got to get bank, but my son, who was minutes from death, gets pennies in the dollar.


I studied this extensively and the only thing he reformed was malpractice punitive damages being limited to $250k. No such limits on special or general damages.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 9:07a, 6/18/25
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Martin Cash said:
And this news adds to the story. Pot doubles your chances of dying of a heart attack.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-doubles-risk-dying-heart-223003966.html
If anyone wants to read the actual study you can find it here
https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/2025/06/10/heartjnl-2024-325429


I think it's important to note a few things:

  • This was a meta analysis of 24 other studies from around the world not an actual study with participants
  • The various studies had a lot of different variables in terms of what they were studying, types of participants, cannabinoids, etc which made it difficult to control for at times
  • One of the main conclusions is that various forms of cannabis and cannabinoids appear to have a positive association with cardiac events. There was no statement showing causality that I could find.
  • The paper concludes that this is proof we should study cannabis use more to better understand the risk/reward of use (which seems like a good idea).

Also, the doctor quoted in the yahoo article was not related to the study at all and has her own drives and agenda. I'm not saying she's wrong or that her ideas/agenda is bad, just that she has a very clear bias (i didn't feel like digging around to find out what she supports).
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In reply to TA-OP • 9:28a, 6/18/25
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TA-OP said:
A small step toward realizing that most of us "leftists" aren't responsible for every little thing. We'll be back to rightists owning libs in a few minutes.


No leftist ever believes it's his fault just like no raindrop ever believes it's responsible for the flood
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In reply to TA-OP • 9:41a, 6/18/25
TA-OP said:
A small step toward realizing that most of us "leftists" aren't responsible for every little thing. We'll be back to rightists owning libs in a few minutes.
Nearly everyone on the right knows and acknowledges that the left isnt responsible for every little thing. They call out the right for it's flaws quite often, especially as this thread shows.

The left is significantly quieter calling out their side when their leaders push too far.

But keep on with your mantra that both sides are equally at fault....
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
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In reply to oklaunion • 9:46a, 6/18/25
oklaunion said:
So if he vetoes it, what are the odds they reconvene to vote to override it?


Some speculation I've seen that he could veto it but then call a special session for them to pass something that at least adds some more guardrails but isn't a complete ban like this is, which would seem like a workable middle ground option if he doesn't decide to do a full veto. Sadly my money is on him just letting it pass without doing anything.
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10:29a, 6/18/25
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As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.


To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 10:35a, 6/18/25
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That study didn't even capture how people consumed cannabis. Probably by smoking, which no ****, smoking can cause all sorts of issues whether it's weed, tobacco, or random pole. It's a garbage study.
I don't even think smoking tobacco, in moderation, is as bad for you as they say. Look at Asia...they smoke cigarettes at significantly higher rates than us and are much healthier. FIFTY PERCENT OF CHINESE MALES SMOKE. 32% of Korean males. 25% in Korea. I am assuming tobacco smoke is as bad for you if not worse than MJ.

I bet it's the lifestyle of most heavy MJ smokers and vapers that is also a heavy contributor.
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 10:38a, 6/18/25
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Bunk Moreland said:
Charpie, what's the word around the Capitol? You seemed pretty confident. Now it's feeling exactly like most suspected. Greg will just create media to show compassion and do nothing. Sure hope we get a late veto but I don't see it.


Let me ask. The social media pressure is still bad.
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In reply to nai06 • 10:39a, 6/18/25
nai06 said:
As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.

To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.
It is extremely frustrating. Almost every conservative buddy of mine likes gummies or a toke on the golf course, at the ranch etc.

There has been a massive shift on the right in favor of relaxing laws around MJ and certain psychadelics. Even my buddies who do not partake don't care or see it as some crazy bogeyman. We should at least be opening up to medical MJ like Oklahoma. And don't tax it at too high % of you pump life back into black market.

This may satisfy some of the blue hairds...and I can't blame them for thinking the way they do, it is what it is...but the vast majority on the right think this is stupid.
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10:40a, 6/18/25
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Also, it should be noted that Big Pharma has their hands in this as well as the alcohol lobby
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 10:42a, 6/18/25
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El Gallo Blanco said:
nai06 said:
As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.

To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.
It is extremely frustraqting. Almost every conservative buddy of mine likes gummies or a toke on the golf course, at the ranch etc.

There has been a massive shift on the right in favor of relaxing laws around MJ and certain psychadelics. Even my buddies who do not partake don't care or see it as some crazy bogeyman. We should at least be opening up to medical MJ like Oklahoma. And don't tax it at too high % of you pump life back into black market.

This may satisfy some of the blue hairds...and I can't blame them for thinking the way they do, it is what it is...but the vast majority on the right think this is stupid.
Well if nothing else, today I will gladly join hands with the conservatives on this board. I sent my comments in last night.
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In reply to Charpie • 10:43a, 6/18/25
Charpie said:
Also, it should be noted that Big Pharma has their hands in this as well as the alcohol lobby
No doubt. Been saying this for many years now.

After hand surgery, my THC gummies were more effective than the Norco's that I was prescribed. I don't care if some of that was in my head or what the reason was, but I got more benefit out of them...not even kidding.
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In reply to nai06 • 10:45a, 6/18/25
nai06 said:
El Gallo Blanco said:
nai06 said:
As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.

To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.
It is extremely frustraqting. Almost every conservative buddy of mine likes gummies or a toke on the golf course, at the ranch etc.

There has been a massive shift on the right in favor of relaxing laws around MJ and certain psychadelics. Even my buddies who do not partake don't care or see it as some crazy bogeyman. We should at least be opening up to medical MJ like Oklahoma. And don't tax it at too high % of you pump life back into black market.

This may satisfy some of the blue hairds...and I can't blame them for thinking the way they do, it is what it is...but the vast majority on the right think this is stupid.
Well if nothing else, today I will gladly join hands with the conservatives on this board. I sent my comments in last night.
It's such an unforced error in 2025...pushing this issue.
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In reply to nai06 • 10:45a, 6/18/25
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nai06 said:
As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.


To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.


Indeed it is frustrating. Regardless of what some moralists who just so happen to have right leaning views would have you believe on this very thread, legalization or, in a stricter sense in this case, NOT BANNING an already legal industry, IS THE SMALL GOVERNMENT POSITION.

Spreadsheet got lots of updates on this thread. Far more moralists out there masquerading as small government Republicans than I was expecting.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 10:51a, 6/18/25
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El Gallo Blanco said:
Charpie said:
Also, it should be noted that Big Pharma has their hands in this as well as the alcohol lobby
No doubt. Been saying this for many years now.

After hand surgery, my THC gummies were more effective than the Norco's that I was prescribed. I don't care if some of that was in my head or what the reason was, but I got more benefit out of them...not even kidding.
I totally believe it.
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12:19p, 6/18/25
I recently sent my comments to Abbot's office and received the normal response. I told him to be a Hero for Texans and veto SB3. I told him "Dan Patrick is a good guy, but he's dead wrong on this issue." That was pure pandering. I strongly dislike Dan Patrick. But as stupid as the government is being on this issue, I figured they would say "Wow! This guy likes Dan Patrick, but disagrees with him. We'll give him credit for his opinion and veto Dan's bill! So great to hear from an honest citizen!"
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12:32p, 6/18/25
He's going to veto
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 12:38p, 6/18/25
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I think the massive shift on the right is how many have seen the benefits for service members. Once you see how many seem to get relief using MJ or THC, it's difficult to be against it.

(And +500 Internet points for spelling "bogeyman" correctly.)
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In reply to nai06 • 12:50p, 6/18/25
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nai06 said:
As one of the resident liberals here, I have to think this is incredibly frustrating for republicans and conservatives on the board.


To make this an issue when it is so unpopular across the board is mind boggling. Especially when you consider that legalizing cannabis would be an easy win and remove that talking point from you political opponents. I can't recall another issue on this board has brought together some many people for different political standpoints to a near total agreement.


Republicans are really, really good at ****ting the bed.
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In reply to samurai_science • 12:51p, 6/18/25
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He's going to veto


Wishful thinking or do you know something?
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