TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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In reply to fc2112 • 10:56a, 6/22/25
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fc2112 said:
Gotta admit I don't know anything about "hemp infused products". Do these products get you high or not?



There are products on the market with hemp derived THC content below the legal limit that do give you the typical high associated with Cannabis. There are also products that are hemp derived that do not cause the typical "high" but can help with anxiety and sleep. I think for most people dealing with pain, THC is more useful than CBD. Both can be derived from hemp if I understand correctly.

Earlybird CBD is another company that sells (currently) legal, hemp derived gummies with THC levels that are enough to get you high.
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In reply to ETFan • 11:10a, 6/22/25
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Rattler12 said:
What's the difference between the alcoholic that needs a drink to calm the jitters, the compulsive gambler that needs to gamble, the obese person who needs a sugar fix or the person that needs a gummie in order to chill and get some sleep?

There's more at play here than meets the eye.

BTW if you drive 75 in a 65 you're also a criminal right?

Everyone's dealing with different levels of stress, anxiety, depression, or use disorders, or none at all. But wherever someone falls on that spectrum, the difference between these behaviors is clear: the potential for harm. You know that.

Why someone drinks, gambles, smokes, eats a gummy, runs marathons, bodybuilds, uses kratom, goes to church, whatever, is personal. It's not yours or my place to judge.

But to answer plainly: it's about harm reduction. People will always find ways to cope or enjoy life. These things live on a spectrum. Of everything you listed, THC is easily the lowest risk, and yet that's what we're criminalizing.

It makes zero sense. None.


I finally agree with you on something. Fist bump and great post.

I hope this nutsack grows some bawlz and vetos this bill.
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In reply to BCG Disciple • 11:11a, 6/22/25
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What is our timeline for stocking up on these products? Big fan of thc seltzers here. I assume law doesn't go in effect until September?


I think so
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In reply to BCG Disciple • 11:14a, 6/22/25
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BCG Disciple said:
What is our timeline for stocking up on these products? Big fan of thc seltzers here. I assume law doesn't go in effect until September?


Sept 1. Yes.

Being a black market drug dealer is going to be very lucrative going forward and its going to put a bunch of folks who have invested hard earned cash in these businesses based on the Farm Bill in ruins.

Thanks Rosie ODonnell looking dip**** Dan.
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11:16a, 6/22/25
I think everyone needs to stock up now. It's patently obvious that he isn't going to veto it or he would've done so by now. Further, if you wait until after it officially becomes law, product is going to evaporate instantaneously or at best, you're going to get price gouged.
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11:25a, 6/22/25
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What's the law on ordering out of state and getting delivered? That's how i get my psilocybin.

Assuming USPS is a no go.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 11:34a, 6/22/25
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BadMoonRisin said:
What's the law on ordering out of state and getting delivered? That's how i get my psilocybin.

Assuming USPS is a no go.


Possession will also be illegal.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 11:35a, 6/22/25
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BadMoonRisin said:
What's the law on ordering out of state and getting delivered? That's how i get my psilocybin.

Assuming USPS is a no go.
You're already breaking federal law by buying shrooms across state lines, so why do you care? It's all federally illegal.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 11:36a, 6/22/25
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You can order anything considered "hemp" through USPS legally. From what I understand once it's delivered, it will then be considered illegal possession under Texas law
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In reply to Tergdor • 11:55a, 6/22/25
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Tergdor said:
BadMoonRisin said:
What's the law on ordering out of state and getting delivered? That's how i get my psilocybin.

Assuming USPS is a no go.
You're already breaking federal law by buying shrooms across state lines, so why do you care? It's all federally illegal.


That is what is stupid about this.

HEMP IS LEGAL BY THE FEDS.
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11:58a, 6/22/25
the supply chain will be a mess in short order so now is the time if you want to stock up.


im hesistant to get into too much detail on this since it will technically be illegal, but i can say with utmost confidence that you will still be able to order these products from out of state with relative ease. its just that now you are going to have to actually BE the part, instead of just talking it with all that rebel "dont tread on me" chutzpah.


and while it most likely doesnt matter, use USPS for shipping if its an option. 4th amendment gives you a little protection there that the other couriers dont have to abide by.
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12:22p, 6/22/25
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Oh look, another intelligent argument. There's been one side bringing facts while the pro-ban folks like yourself just keep posting odd little tantrums that don't make sense. Nothing about the merits for or against because you know there really isn't any merit to the ban. So you don't even go there.
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In reply to Charpie • 1:00p, 6/22/25
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Charpie said:
Tergdor said:
BadMoonRisin said:
What's the law on ordering out of state and getting delivered? That's how i get my psilocybin.

Assuming USPS is a no go.
You're already breaking federal law by buying shrooms across state lines, so why do you care? It's all federally illegal.


That is what is stupid about this.

HEMP IS LEGAL BY THE FEDS.


Honestly at this point I'd rather the nannie's in Texas continue to (somehow) be blind to this obvious fact. It's just unfortunate they just killed an entire industry and thousands of jobs in the state
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1:11p, 6/22/25
Yeah, outside the debate of THC being good, bad, whatever; we've got a fully conservative Texas government going completely against the will of the majority to shutdown a mutli-billion dollar industry employing 50k+ Texans?? Really? Thousands of jobs. Just poof, gone. ~$250,000,000 in Texas tax revenue. Poof, gone.

And Abbott is going to let it happen without even putting his signature on it. What a coward and what a ****ty government. Time to clean house and I don't say that from a partisan angle, get a new republican in there for all I care. Just get these fools out.
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1:15p, 6/22/25
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CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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1:22p, 6/22/25
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Its not a conservative republican thing though. It's old anti drug holdovers that also wouldnt have you able to buy liquor either if they were able to make that so. Blue law zealots that think that any reefer product will put you on an uncontrollable crime spree fueled by psychosis
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1:38p, 6/22/25
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Got a years supply of gummies in my cart if I need to pull the trigger. Thankfully there's a 20% promo through Wednesday.
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1:40p, 6/22/25
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CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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2:30p, 6/22/25
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Texas is not free
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In reply to ETFan • 3:01p, 6/22/25
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Yeah, outside the debate of THC being good, bad, whatever; we've got a fully conservative Texas government going completely against the will of the majority to shutdown a mutli-billion dollar industry employing 50k+ Texans?? Really? Thousands of jobs. Just poof, gone. ~$250,000,000 in Texas tax revenue. Poof, gone.

And Abbott is going to let it happen without even putting his signature on it. What a coward and what a ****ty government. Time to clean house and I don't say that from a partisan angle, get a new republican in there for all I care. Just get these fools out.
As is constantly demonstrated by this forum, the definition of "conservative" is entirely dependent on the politically expedient purpose at any given time.
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In reply to Sooper Jeenyus • 3:27p, 6/22/25
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Sooper Jeenyus said:
ETFan said:
Yeah, outside the debate of THC being good, bad, whatever; we've got a fully conservative Texas government going completely against the will of the majority to shutdown a mutli-billion dollar industry employing 50k+ Texans?? Really? Thousands of jobs. Just poof, gone. ~$250,000,000 in Texas tax revenue. Poof, gone.

And Abbott is going to let it happen without even putting his signature on it. What a coward and what a ****ty government. Time to clean house and I don't say that from a partisan angle, get a new republican in there for all I care. Just get these fools out.
As is constantly demonstrated by this forum, the definition of "conservative" is entirely dependent on the politically expedient purpose at any given time.
Is Ron DeSantis a conservative? He seems to be extremely popular with his constituents and might be The President of the United States one day. Do you think Abbott thinks about that?
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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 3:30p, 6/22/25
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There's almost no money on this bet, a single person could swing that line.

Had my hopes up. He's going to let it become law without signing it. Coward.

EDIT: Pleasantly wrong!
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3:35p, 6/22/25
you can blame the alcohol lobby in Texas if this doesn't pass they pretty much run this state in regard to booze.
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In reply to Less Evil Hank Scorpio • 3:36p, 6/22/25
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fc2112 said:
Gotta admit I don't know anything about "hemp infused products". Do these products get you high or not?



There are products on the market with hemp derived THC content below the legal limit that do give you the typical high associated with Cannabis. There are also products that are hemp derived that do not cause the typical "high" but can help with anxiety and sleep. I think for most people dealing with pain, THC is more useful than CBD. Both can be derived from hemp if I understand correctly.

Earlybird CBD is another company that sells (currently) legal, hemp derived gummies with THC levels that are enough to get you high.

And will all of them cause a positive drug test?
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In reply to fc2112 • 3:55p, 6/22/25
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You'll have to do your own research on that. Tests are generally picking up THC, not CBD I think but beyond that I'm not well versed.
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In reply to fc2112 • 3:56p, 6/22/25
fc2112 said:
GarlandAg2012 said:
fc2112 said:
Gotta admit I don't know anything about "hemp infused products". Do these products get you high or not?



There are products on the market with hemp derived THC content below the legal limit that do give you the typical high associated with Cannabis. There are also products that are hemp derived that do not cause the typical "high" but can help with anxiety and sleep. I think for most people dealing with pain, THC is more useful than CBD. Both can be derived from hemp if I understand correctly.

Earlybird CBD is another company that sells (currently) legal, hemp derived gummies with THC levels that are enough to get you high.

And will all of them cause a positive drug test?


Even products that have been legal, if they contain any sort of THC, tend to result in a positive test. CBD products with zero THC USUALLY don't.
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In reply to AgsMyDude • 4:00p, 6/22/25
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Got a years supply of gummies in my cart if I need to pull the trigger. Thankfully there's a 20% promo through Wednesday.


Same
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4:18p, 6/22/25
Thanks. I've been interested in trying for help with sleep. But I have a job with security clearances and we don't get tested often, but it happens.
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In reply to Rossticus • 4:22p, 6/22/25
Rossticus said:
fc2112 said:
GarlandAg2012 said:
fc2112 said:
Gotta admit I don't know anything about "hemp infused products". Do these products get you high or not?



There are products on the market with hemp derived THC content below the legal limit that do give you the typical high associated with Cannabis. There are also products that are hemp derived that do not cause the typical "high" but can help with anxiety and sleep. I think for most people dealing with pain, THC is more useful than CBD. Both can be derived from hemp if I understand correctly.

Earlybird CBD is another company that sells (currently) legal, hemp derived gummies with THC levels that are enough to get you high.

And will all of them cause a positive drug test?


Even products that have been legal, if they contain any sort of THC, tend to result in a positive test. CBD products with zero THC don't.
And if an employer has a strict policy against said use and an employee does test positive due to regular use and is terminated does a veto or a non veto by Abbott or any of the pros or cons of use listed by posters in the thread make any difference?
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In reply to fc2112 • 4:26p, 6/22/25
fc2112 said:
Thanks. I've been interested in trying for help with sleep. But I have a job with security clearances and we don't get tested often, but it happens.


Just a warning, that even CBD products that don't intentionally include THC or include it on the label MAY still have very low trace levels whose effects you don't physically detect. Depending on the cutoff level of your given employer's drug testing protocol, it COULD theoretically still trigger a "false" positive. It's unlikely but not impossible.
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In reply to Rattler12 • 4:26p, 6/22/25
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Why would it?
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In reply to Rattler12 • 4:30p, 6/22/25
Rattler12 said:
Rossticus said:
fc2112 said:
GarlandAg2012 said:
fc2112 said:
Gotta admit I don't know anything about "hemp infused products". Do these products get you high or not?



There are products on the market with hemp derived THC content below the legal limit that do give you the typical high associated with Cannabis. There are also products that are hemp derived that do not cause the typical "high" but can help with anxiety and sleep. I think for most people dealing with pain, THC is more useful than CBD. Both can be derived from hemp if I understand correctly.

Earlybird CBD is another company that sells (currently) legal, hemp derived gummies with THC levels that are enough to get you high.

And will all of them cause a positive drug test?


Even products that have been legal, if they contain any sort of THC, tend to result in a positive test. CBD products with zero THC don't.
And if an employer has a strict policy against said use and an employee does test positive due to regular use and is terminated does a veto or a non veto by Abbott or any of the pros or cons of use listed by posters in the thread make any difference?


Nope. Same as in any other state. It's at the employer's discretion to determine their own protocols and policies for employment, whether a given activity is considered legal or not. Drinking, using THC products, etc. can all be cause for termination if an employer lays that out as the terms of your employment and you violate it.
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In reply to Rossticus • 4:33p, 6/22/25
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Rossticus said:
fc2112 said:
Thanks. I've been interested in trying for help with sleep. But I have a job with security clearances and we don't get tested often, but it happens.


Just a warning, that even CBD products that don't intentionally include THC or include it on the label MAY still have very low trace levels whose effects you don't physically detect. Depending on the cutoff level of your given employer's drug testing protocol, it COULD theoretically still trigger a "false" positive. It's unlikely but not impossible.


Excellent point, which is why I recommend everyone take advantage of Texas' "Compassionate Use Act" & get prescribed THC & CBD edibles, tinctures, & small liquid doses, which are the ONLY forms allowed (so to the resident poster whose main complaint of legalizing MJ is theIr unhinged tirade about the odor of MJ smoke/ vapor pens). You buy one product for just one order (even though it's offered at ridiculous prices), & THEN you can smoke the devil's lettuce &/or take your store-bought CBD gummies without fear of an employer's drug test ever again!!
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4:35p, 6/22/25
Government so small it can fit in your one-hitter
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4:40p, 6/22/25
Thanks for the advice. As a federal contractor, we have to abide by US drug laws.

We get strong warnings about smoking weed in states where it's legal because it still is illegal at the federal level.

Not sure about stuff like this. I'll look into it.

And don't laugh - could it help with tennis elbow?
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