You're a dirty hippie

BenFiasco14 said:

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You're a dirty hippie

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Dirty ass IPAs and cheechin

Charpie said:

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We are gonna have to keep the pressure up

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This cannot be emphasized enough and especially through your local rep this time

Teslag said:

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Charpie said:

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We are gonna have to keep the pressure up

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This cannot be emphasized enough and especially through your local rep this time

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and then it goes federal to FY2026 Agriculture Appropriations Bill. Thats when the mob learns about and turns their attention to Rep Andy Harris. Hope everyone is getting settled in, cause this fight is just getting started.

Slicer97 said:

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I'm fairly certain I've said this on more than one occassion on this thread, but just in case anyone missed it, Dan Patrick is quite welcome to asphyxiate on a satchel of richards.

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Pretty sure he lacks the necessary gag reflex at this point.

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Most opponents of this bill weren't saying, "But I need my THC for sleep aide!"

There have been MANY reasons individuals don't want this outlawed. They range from using the gummies for sleep, pain alleviation, PTSD, anxiety, and a myriad of other conditions various people take this to help with. However, the core of the argument is whether the government should tell free citizens they can't pull a plant out of the ground and smoke it. Or take the natural resin from said plant, bake it into food or a gummy, and eat it.

If I wish to sit in my home on a Friday night and get high, that is NO ONE'S BUSINESS.

Every single argument I have heard is irrational and can be turned around on the proponents of this bill by changing "THC" to "alcohol". Have you ever smoked weed before? Have you ever taken one of these gummies? If you have and have also consumed alcohol in your life, you would know for a fact that alcohol's effects and the harm its consumption causes on our society, is literally thousands of times greater than THC.

Then, you look at the argument of taking it away from the cartels as a cash crop, along with the jobs it creates, the money it brings to citizens and the money the government brings in from taxes... I truly don't understand any rational argument against it. The ONLY reason you can have for wanting it illegal, if you're being honest with yourself, is because you're a busy-body authoritarian who just doesn't like the fact some people like to get high. Even that opinion is ignorant unless you hold the same opinion on alcohol sales.

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Please point to the post where I said I wanted it illegal. I believe I said that Abbot could veto or not veto it and that it made no difference to me one way or the other. And yes I have tried cannabis...twice... once it did nothing, the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly. I drink alcohol but have NEVER been in that kind of condition where I could not defend or take care of myself if the need arose. After that experience I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot poll

You guys that like to get high from it's regular use have at it. Use it every night. For those that like to compare it to alcohol, which seems to be a reoccurring theme throughout these 38 pages think about this.....If an alcoholic thinks he just has to have a drink or five every night to relieve his pain, release tension, stress and relax is he in control of the alcohol or is the alcohol in control of him? How is that scenario any different than the person that needs a hit or two of a cannabis product every night for the same reasons and I am not referencing, in any way, the people that have actual physical injuries in any way. I'm not a Dr. but perhaps looking into the causes of said tension, stress and pain are needed.

To the poster that mentioned me and "bluster" in his post. What do you consider these responses?....and that's just off of one page of the 38

"quite welcome to asphyxiate on a satchel of richards."
"He's such a corrupt slimeball."
"he looks like someone's old lesbian aunt Rhonda."
"He's just being a passive aggressive ****."

For being independent thinkers yall remind me of this when the subject of cannabis and it's derivatives come up

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I think the issue here is, nobody is saying you're not entitled to your opinion, we all have things we like and dislike. Motorcycles scare the crap out of me and I've seen too many accidents where they're picking up pieces of the person off the pavement. But I wouldn't say motorcycles should be illegal or use it as any kind of argument in favor of making motorcycles illegal.

Same here, your opinion is your opinion, and I guess you're saying that you don't care whether it's legal or illegal, but your fear of the product shouldn't have any bearing on whether it's legal or not.

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Would you say the same about someone's regular use of the product? Should it have any bearing on whether it's legal or not?

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.

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Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.

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Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.

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Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.

Texaggie7nine said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.

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Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.

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" but your "fear" of the product shouldn't have any bearing on whether it's legal or not."

You made this statement. I'm posing the opposite side of the same coin. Using that same line of logic, an individual's "love" of the product shouldn't have any bearing on whether it's legal or not either.

Of course. It's inconsequential. We don't say something is legal or illegal because we love or hate it, we say it's legal or illegal because we want to protect everyone's rights. I don't have a right to punch someone for no reason, not because we all hate fights, but because I'm infringing on their rights.

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.

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Of course. It's inconsequential. We don't say something is legal or illegal because we love or hate it, we say it's legal or illegal because we want to protect everyone's rights. I don't have a right to punch someone for no reason, not because we all hate fights, but because I'm infringing on their rights.

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.

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My point is my statement is just as dumb and irrelevant as your statement and there was no reason to make either of them. You took the lead and I responded on the same level.

Is there any other person who has more of rat face than Patrick?

One of the benefits of legalizing it is testing and consistency in the product.

Well stated. We should all have a dog in the "should people be able to make adult choices that impact their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" fight. If allowing those choices infringes on others and to what extent, then that's the debate. But "I don't do it so I don't care" is a shortsighted and ridiculous position.

TarponChaser said:

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Is there any other person who has more of rat face than Patrick?

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Rafael Edward Cruz

dustin999 said:

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I'm still confused, but what I'll say is, I engaged because you said it doesn't make any difference to you whether it's legal or illegal, and then went on a spill about how awful it is and how people are trying to legitimize their use of cannabis and comparing it to alcohol.

Just because you have no dog in the fight doesn't mean you can't stand for freedoms and individual liberty. I stand for the rights of people to burn the flag and engage in same sex relationships (even though neither appeal to me) because I believe defending our rights (regardless of the issue) is important, not just defending the rights of things that impact me or I care about.

tldr; First they came for the communists...

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Do you stand for the right of Indvidual's to use heroin or fentanyl?

Trump signed the Federal Farm bill into law in 2018. So any THC delivered from Hemp in forms of Delta 8 & Delta 9 that have a concentration of not more than 0.3 percent are legal under the federal Farm Bill.

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dustin999 said:

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I'm still confused, but what I'll say is, I engaged because you said it doesn't make any difference to you whether it's legal or illegal, and then went on a spill about how awful it is and how people are trying to legitimize their use of cannabis and comparing it to alcohol.

Just because you have no dog in the fight doesn't mean you can't stand for freedoms and individual liberty. I stand for the rights of people to burn the flag and engage in same sex relationships (even though neither appeal to me) because I believe defending our rights (regardless of the issue) is important, not just defending the rights of things that impact me or I care about.

tldr; First they came for the communists...

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Do you stand for the right of Indvidual's to use heroin or fentanyl?

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I do.

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dustin999 said:

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I'm still confused, but what I'll say is, I engaged because you said it doesn't make any difference to you whether it's legal or illegal, and then went on a spill about how awful it is and how people are trying to legitimize their use of cannabis and comparing it to alcohol.

Just because you have no dog in the fight doesn't mean you can't stand for freedoms and individual liberty. I stand for the rights of people to burn the flag and engage in same sex relationships (even though neither appeal to me) because I believe defending our rights (regardless of the issue) is important, not just defending the rights of things that impact me or I care about.

tldr; First they came for the communists...

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Do you stand for the right of Indvidual's to use heroin or fentanyl?

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I do. Their body, not mine.

Just glad to see Dan Patrick get humiliated.

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Texaggie7nine said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.

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Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.

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Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.

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You'd be the first I've heard of that happening to. Also, who's your guy?

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Would need this to be the bong in question… loaded with some Godfather OG level produce… assuming he wasn't either also drinking or the herb wasn't laced with something.

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TarponChaser said:

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Is there any other person who has more of rat face than Patrick?

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Rafael Edward Cruz

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Smug & punchable is different than rat-faced.

Cruz has been a disappointment in lot of ways but that's another discussion.

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Do you stand for the right of Indvidual's to use heroin or fentanyl?

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I've thought a lot about this issue, and I believe it's a battle between individual liberties and being controlled by a substance that could cause you to have such impaired judgement and dependency that you end up infringing on other people's rights.

With drugs like meth, you become disassociated with yourself and it often leads to making poor choices which could include robbery, assault, etc. There's a high prevalence of that, and as a result, it becomes a safety issue for the people around them. Weed doesn't do that, despite what DP Dan says about his little train story.

I don't believe in absolutes, so I'm not one who thinks it's all or none, either legalize it all or make it all illegal.

I also think you can go too far with this "infringing on other people's rights", for example like in NYC when Bloomberg decided to limit soft drink sizes because we all pay insurance premiums and there's a certain level of socialized healthcare in America, i.e. if you have a bad diet, it costs the taxpayers (me) more money and infringes on our rights. That's a ridiculous argument.

It's definitely a subjective thing with thresholds and balancing of concerns.

Where does one procure some Pliny in this great state of ours?