Lots of retail store space about to open up and sit doing nothing

Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

Bunk Moreland said:

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Dan Patrick. A man of the hometown drug dealers alcohol lobbyists. They've been sucking wind for 5+ years now, but they finally got the lifeline they needed.

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

samurai_science said:

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

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Tobacco and alcohol say you're wrong.

samurai_science said:

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

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Where's the high dollar black market alcohol sales? You know it's taxed heavily, right?

After prohibition was repealed, the organized crime related to alcohol sales effectively dried up and they moved to other businesses. If you want the cartels out of the entry level drug markets in Texas, legalize weed, and tax it. Most people are going to go the legal route vs finding a dealer on the street for their ditch weed.

samurai_science said:

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

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Not necessarily. Would you rather have to rely on a shady drug dealer who may not be around because he got thrown in jail or got too stoned the night before, or ran out of what you want, or pay a 15% tax to be able to go into a store and legally purchase what you want and not have to deal with those other externalities? Of course, this can change based on the level of taxation.

HTownAg98 said:

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samurai_science said:

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

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Not necessarily. Would you rather have to rely on a shady drug dealer who may not be around because he got thrown in jail or got too stoned the night before, or ran out of what you want, or pay a 15% tax to be able to go into a store and legally purchase what you want and not have to deal with those other externalities? Of course, this can change based on the level of taxation.

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Problem is once you give the gubmit the authority to tax something, particularly a vice, they will latch on to it like a crack***** at sunrise finding a rock in her bra.

This has been shown time and again in places that have legalized it. And I am all for legalization but the patchwork done across the Country and in particular the half-arsed, full-****** approach in Texas has to be changed.

I import from Oklahoma myself and would not touch anything from a "hemp" store in Texas. Hell, in Texas the black market stuff is more consistent, safer than the strip center weed.

The right answer is legalize it. Severe penalties for providing to minors. Hell, severe penalties for driving "high" if folks think that will be a problem.

And let's move on.

HTownAg98 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Dan Patrick. A man of the hometown drug dealers. They've been sucking wind for 5+ years now, but they finally got the lifeline they needed.

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Dan Patrick is the kid in high school that would call the cops on a party because he wasn't invited.

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Dannie Goeb probably received regular beatings as a child in East Baltimore.

When will Texas get political leaders from Texas and not DC?

Any chance Abbott can be persuaded not to sign it when it hits his desk? Or is he too deep into the Big Pharma/alcohol money?

flown-the-coop said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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samurai_science said:

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schmellba99 said:

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samurai_science said:

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doubledog said:

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Don't ban THC stores TAX them!

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That will just make more criminals, similar to banning them.

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This is just a dumb mentality

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No its how the black market works, when you tax something, or criminalize it.......black market takes over.

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Not necessarily. Would you rather have to rely on a shady drug dealer who may not be around because he got thrown in jail or got too stoned the night before, or ran out of what you want, or pay a 15% tax to be able to go into a store and legally purchase what you want and not have to deal with those other externalities? Of course, this can change based on the level of taxation.

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Problem is once you give the gubmit the authority to tax something, particularly a vice, they will latch on to it like a crack***** at sunrise finding a rock in her bra.

This has been shown time and again in places that have legalized it. And I am all for legalization but the patchwork done across the Country and in particular the half-arsed, full-****** approach in Texas has to be changed.

I import from Oklahoma myself and would not touch anything from a "hemp" store in Texas. Hell, in Texas the black market stuff is more consistent, safer than the strip center weed.

The right answer is legalize it. Severe penalties for providing to minors. Hell, severe penalties for driving "high" if folks think that will be a problem.

And let's move on.

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The house bill was moving in the right direction, with the exception of limiting flower to .03% and completely banning vapes. It was going to legalize tinctures, edibles, low potency flower, and beverages, to be sold in licensed stores regulated by the TABC.

Then they went pants on head ******ed and went back to a total ban. So ****ing stupid and the opposite of individual liberty! I was watching one of the hearings yesterday and I think they used school funding as a negotiating tool. The house probably traded away our rights to get the senate to pass some school funding bill they wanted.

I guess they want to empower the black market and strengthen cartels.

It would be one thing if they were doing this at the same time as legalization, but it really sucks for those of us who don't drink. It was nice to be able to buy a low THC cocktail from the liquor store so you can enjoy your own drink while others drink around you.

Scum bags!

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would not touch anything from a "hemp" store in Texas. Hell, in Texas the black market stuff is more consistent, safer than the strip center weed.

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how is that? is the issue here that the smoke shops are selling synthetics, and that street weed is still au natural?

There's some synthetic, but most of it is still natural and D9 THC or THCa.

BenFiasco14 said:

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Thanks morons! I'm sure the drug dealers are excited, and I hope you sleep well at night knowing you aren't impacting drug dealers or children's access to drugs you're empowering it. The dregs will dreg regardless.

Instead, this will impact the 50s aged housewife who takes this stuff to help with her chronic back pain. The veteran who struggled for years with mental health and found relief in THC. The elderly folks who use it to treat arthritis. The folks who use it to help ease their anxiety and depression.

**** you dan Patrick. And **** you, stupid gutless house republicans who claim to be the party of small government. *******s are lucky the alternative is a complete freaking clown show.

So angered by this.

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I bet there's a greater than 90% chance most of our elected officials are on the cartel payroll in some fashion.

Don't overthink it. As Gaeilge said...it's big alcohol money.

I wonder how many people will die when the black market drug dealers start lacing weed with fentanyl to make it stronger than competition.

The alternative could have been regularly tested and regulated delta 9 or THCa sold by shops with TABC licenses.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't overthink it. As Gaeilge said...it's big alcohol money.

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If it was big alcohol money, why wouldn't they have kept the original language in HB 28 that only kept THC beverages legal to be sold in liquor stores under TABC supervision? That would have been a great source of revenue for big alcohol and come with a less problematic customer base.

Unfortunately, Dan Patrick doesn't care. As long as he keeps getting his big pharm and alcohol lobby money, he actually doesn't care about the lives of Texans.

Lathspell said:

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There's some synthetic, but most of it is still natural and D9 THC or THCa.

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Everything in smoke shops is synthetic. Even the THCa "flower" the "dispensaries" sell.

There's no other way to extract the cannabinoids from hemp other than using chemicals. That THCa flower stores sell is typically hemp with THCa dust sprinkled on it.

The legal stuff is so expensive it's not worth touching. I just wonder how much they paid to Patrick's pockets to increase their monopoly. Considering the House stripped out the CUP enhancements, I suspect it was a lot.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't overthink it. As Gaeilge said...it's big alcohol money.

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If it was big alcohol money, why wouldn't they have kept the original language in HB 28 that only kept THC beverages legal to be sold in liquor stores under TABC supervision? That would have been a great source of revenue for big alcohol and come with a less problematic customer base.

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Liquor store lobbyists =/= alcohol lobbyists

Gaeilge said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't overthink it. As Gaeilge said...it's big alcohol money.

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If it was big alcohol money, why wouldn't they have kept the original language in HB 28 that only kept THC beverages legal to be sold in liquor stores under TABC supervision? That would have been a great source of revenue for big alcohol and come with a less problematic customer base.

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Liquor store lobbyists =/= alcohol lobbyists

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Big alcohol could certainly bring their own products to market assuming the have production capability in places where it's legal to produce. They'd have to get hemp suppliers, but that's like any other ingredient.

What happened to this ******* in the house that stands up there like a statue and won't let anyone talk or bring anything up for a vote? Was he sleeping on the job???

The gummies are just THC resin.