TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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Lathspell said:

Im okay with those regulations as long as they aren't made to block small businesses from entering the market to create competition, which a lot of regulations pushed by big lobbyists try to do.
I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen. Small businesses can't line the pockets of politicians the way large corporations do. And I haven't come across a politician that didn't like having their pockets lined.
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Science Denier said:

The biggest question to me is as follows:

How much will dip**** Dna lose in his cash flow if THC is not banned? Here is a summary of what I've gathered:

1. This is being marketed to kids
2. Many adults take this to
A. To relieve chronic pain
B. To help sleep at night
3. Both A and B have very expensive prescription medicine to help these conditions, so Big Pharma is losing money
4. These gummies, brownies, whatever are perfectly legal in the US.
5. There is a medical weed industry that also provides an alternative also

So, dip**** Dan tries to make something in Texas illegal that is legal everywhere else in the US, and something that people can take to relieve actual problems they have. And his excuse is. Wait for it.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Well, dumbass, if it's the children you are worried about, then put an age limit on it. DUH

But, it's not the kids that are hooked on Big Pharma's pills and are losing millions by folks switching to something cheaper. It's not the kids that have chronic pain or sleeping disorders and are hooked on expensive medicine. Just banning the sale to minors won't help those he's taking bribes from. No, we need a complete ban.

If I remember correctly, it was dip**** Dan that was going to hold hearings to block the Texas Aggies from moving to the SEC until several of his donors set his dumbass straight.

I know there is a special session. I do hope they don't do something stupid. But both houses were bribed enough to get this stupid thing passed in the first place.

I won't hold my breath.
Speaking of the kids...Will Dan Patrick push to ban LITERAL AMPHETAMINES for children? Or at least raise awareness? We are creating lifelong addicts with altered brains and dopamine levels/production, dependent on pharma grade speed. All because they are acting like energetic children...the way God created them.

Bet he's perfectly fine with that. Can't believe I used to like this guy.
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txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

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1) Child resistant/tamper proof packaging. Most THC products I see in Texas or other states aren't sold this way





Every product I have ever purchased from a legit dispensary in a state where it's legal is in completely child proof packaging. Often times difficult for adults to open TBH.

The stuff from here though...just classic ziplock from my experience.
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Agree. I've struggled with some of the containers.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Science Denier said:

The biggest question to me is as follows:

How much will dip**** Dna lose in his cash flow if THC is not banned? Here is a summary of what I've gathered:

1. This is being marketed to kids
2. Many adults take this to
A. To relieve chronic pain
B. To help sleep at night
3. Both A and B have very expensive prescription medicine to help these conditions, so Big Pharma is losing money
4. These gummies, brownies, whatever are perfectly legal in the US.
5. There is a medical weed industry that also provides an alternative also

So, dip**** Dan tries to make something in Texas illegal that is legal everywhere else in the US, and something that people can take to relieve actual problems they have. And his excuse is. Wait for it.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Well, dumbass, if it's the children you are worried about, then put an age limit on it. DUH

But, it's not the kids that are hooked on Big Pharma's pills and are losing millions by folks switching to something cheaper. It's not the kids that have chronic pain or sleeping disorders and are hooked on expensive medicine. Just banning the sale to minors won't help those he's taking bribes from. No, we need a complete ban.

If I remember correctly, it was dip**** Dan that was going to hold hearings to block the Texas Aggies from moving to the SEC until several of his donors set his dumbass straight.

I know there is a special session. I do hope they don't do something stupid. But both houses were bribed enough to get this stupid thing passed in the first place.

I won't hold my breath.
Speaking of the kids...Will Dan Patrick push to ban LITERAL AMPHETAMINES for children? Or at least raise awareness? We are creating lifelong addicts with altered brains and dopamine levels/production, dependent on pharma grade speed. All because they are acting like energetic children...the way God created them.

Bet he's perfectly fine with that. Can't believe I used to like this guy.


I took it from fourth grade through high school and occasionally in college (always prescribed). Then didn't take it for twenty years until I got a new script recently. I'm fine and it's really made a difference in my productivity and significantly reduced my caffeine intake. Only take it on days that I need to concentrate on paper/computer work. Not once have I ever felt a physical dependency. I actually hated the way it made me feel when I was younger, but it worked for school. I'm regular ADD not ADHD. Apparently Adderall has a very different response in ADD/ADHD people than it does normies.
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aggieforester05 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Science Denier said:

The biggest question to me is as follows:

How much will dip**** Dna lose in his cash flow if THC is not banned? Here is a summary of what I've gathered:

1. This is being marketed to kids
2. Many adults take this to
A. To relieve chronic pain
B. To help sleep at night
3. Both A and B have very expensive prescription medicine to help these conditions, so Big Pharma is losing money
4. These gummies, brownies, whatever are perfectly legal in the US.
5. There is a medical weed industry that also provides an alternative also

So, dip**** Dan tries to make something in Texas illegal that is legal everywhere else in the US, and something that people can take to relieve actual problems they have. And his excuse is. Wait for it.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Well, dumbass, if it's the children you are worried about, then put an age limit on it. DUH

But, it's not the kids that are hooked on Big Pharma's pills and are losing millions by folks switching to something cheaper. It's not the kids that have chronic pain or sleeping disorders and are hooked on expensive medicine. Just banning the sale to minors won't help those he's taking bribes from. No, we need a complete ban.

If I remember correctly, it was dip**** Dan that was going to hold hearings to block the Texas Aggies from moving to the SEC until several of his donors set his dumbass straight.

I know there is a special session. I do hope they don't do something stupid. But both houses were bribed enough to get this stupid thing passed in the first place.

I won't hold my breath.
Speaking of the kids...Will Dan Patrick push to ban LITERAL AMPHETAMINES for children? Or at least raise awareness? We are creating lifelong addicts with altered brains and dopamine levels/production, dependent on pharma grade speed. All because they are acting like energetic children...the way God created them.

Bet he's perfectly fine with that. Can't believe I used to like this guy.


I took it from fourth grade through high school and occasionally in college (always prescribed). Then didn't take it for twenty years until I got a new script recently. I'm fine and it's really made a difference in my productivity and significantly reduced my caffeine intake. Only take it on days that I need to concentrate on paper/computer work. Not once have I ever felt a physical dependency. I actually hated the way it made me feel when I was younger, but it worked for school. I'm regular ADD not ADHD. Apparently Adderall has a very different response in ADD/ADHD people than it does normies.
I get a few from my cousin every now and then. It helps me lock in on certain demanding or tedious work tasks, as well as manual labor...and golf. But for many, it is physically dependent, and you are supposed to taper off.

If someone takes it every day...even if just for a week or two...they will experience a dopamine crash if they come off cold turkey. Lethargic, mild to moderately depressed etc.

It's the heavy users that are prescribed and take 60-100mg per day (can't even believe this amt is legal) that have a really hard time coming off of it.

For most adults with ADD or problems focusing, probably better to use it "as needed" like you are. I do wonder if it might be a better treatement than SSRI's for many with depression though.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

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1) Child resistant/tamper proof packaging. Most THC products I see in Texas or other states aren't sold this way





Every product I have ever purchased from a legit dispensary in a state where it's legal is in completely child proof packaging. Often times difficult for adults to open TBH.

The stuff from here though...just classic ziplock from my experience.
Like you said - legit, regulated dispensary selling real weed. There's only 3 of those in Texas

And, those legit regulated dispensaries in other states, all manufacture their product in their respective states. Vape shop THC sold in other states is packaged the same as here.

That's why this feels like a legalization framework.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Science Denier said:

The biggest question to me is as follows:

How much will dip**** Dna lose in his cash flow if THC is not banned? Here is a summary of what I've gathered:

1. This is being marketed to kids
2. Many adults take this to
A. To relieve chronic pain
B. To help sleep at night
3. Both A and B have very expensive prescription medicine to help these conditions, so Big Pharma is losing money
4. These gummies, brownies, whatever are perfectly legal in the US.
5. There is a medical weed industry that also provides an alternative also

So, dip**** Dan tries to make something in Texas illegal that is legal everywhere else in the US, and something that people can take to relieve actual problems they have. And his excuse is. Wait for it.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Well, dumbass, if it's the children you are worried about, then put an age limit on it. DUH

But, it's not the kids that are hooked on Big Pharma's pills and are losing millions by folks switching to something cheaper. It's not the kids that have chronic pain or sleeping disorders and are hooked on expensive medicine. Just banning the sale to minors won't help those he's taking bribes from. No, we need a complete ban.

If I remember correctly, it was dip**** Dan that was going to hold hearings to block the Texas Aggies from moving to the SEC until several of his donors set his dumbass straight.

I know there is a special session. I do hope they don't do something stupid. But both houses were bribed enough to get this stupid thing passed in the first place.

I won't hold my breath.
Speaking of the kids...Will Dan Patrick push to ban LITERAL AMPHETAMINES for children? Or at least raise awareness? We are creating lifelong addicts with altered brains and dopamine levels/production, dependent on pharma grade speed. All because they are acting like energetic children...the way God created them.

Bet he's perfectly fine with that. Can't believe I used to like this guy.
That dip**** doesn't give a **** about "the kids".
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Slicer97 said:

Lathspell said:

Im okay with those regulations as long as they aren't made to block small businesses from entering the market to create competition, which a lot of regulations pushed by big lobbyists try to do.
I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen. Small businesses can't line the pockets of politicians the way large corporations do. And I haven't come across a politician that didn't like having their pockets lined.
That's what I think as well. One of the 3 licensed Texas dispensaries will also start selling hemp based products since these companies are already licensed, regulated, have suppliers for packaging, and have big $$$ backers.

I'm sure some of the out of state manufacturers will make Texas compliant stuff, but out of state companies like Snapdragon Hemp who makes some awesome farm bill compliant edibles, drinks, and carts, will no longer be able to ship to or sell in Texas.

I hope the Texas industry takes off and brings similar products and competition
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Philo B 93 said:

You know… I've enjoyed our conversation here during this crazy veto drama. I'm gonna miss you guys when the excitement dies down and this thread falls off page 1. There's a good group of conservative folks here who should get stoned together at an Aggie tailgate.

Enjoy those totally legal gummies!
Just walk around and listen for a tailgate blasting Pink Floyd and Cypress Hill.
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aggieforester05 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Science Denier said:

The biggest question to me is as follows:

How much will dip**** Dna lose in his cash flow if THC is not banned? Here is a summary of what I've gathered:

1. This is being marketed to kids
2. Many adults take this to
A. To relieve chronic pain
B. To help sleep at night
3. Both A and B have very expensive prescription medicine to help these conditions, so Big Pharma is losing money
4. These gummies, brownies, whatever are perfectly legal in the US.
5. There is a medical weed industry that also provides an alternative also

So, dip**** Dan tries to make something in Texas illegal that is legal everywhere else in the US, and something that people can take to relieve actual problems they have. And his excuse is. Wait for it.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Well, dumbass, if it's the children you are worried about, then put an age limit on it. DUH

But, it's not the kids that are hooked on Big Pharma's pills and are losing millions by folks switching to something cheaper. It's not the kids that have chronic pain or sleeping disorders and are hooked on expensive medicine. Just banning the sale to minors won't help those he's taking bribes from. No, we need a complete ban.

If I remember correctly, it was dip**** Dan that was going to hold hearings to block the Texas Aggies from moving to the SEC until several of his donors set his dumbass straight.

I know there is a special session. I do hope they don't do something stupid. But both houses were bribed enough to get this stupid thing passed in the first place.

I won't hold my breath.
Speaking of the kids...Will Dan Patrick push to ban LITERAL AMPHETAMINES for children? Or at least raise awareness? We are creating lifelong addicts with altered brains and dopamine levels/production, dependent on pharma grade speed. All because they are acting like energetic children...the way God created them.

Bet he's perfectly fine with that. Can't believe I used to like this guy.


I took it from fourth grade through high school and occasionally in college (always prescribed). Then didn't take it for twenty years until I got a new script recently. I'm fine and it's really made a difference in my productivity and significantly reduced my caffeine intake. Only take it on days that I need to concentrate on paper/computer work. Not once have I ever felt a physical dependency. I actually hated the way it made me feel when I was younger, but it worked for school. I'm regular ADD not ADHD. Apparently Adderall has a very different response in ADD/ADHD people than it does normies.
Be careful if they ever try to switch you to Vyvance. A few friends and I were prescribed it in college. It effectively made us unable to have any motivation on our own after being on it for a bit. After around a decade, a couple of us finally saw the light and quit. It was a struggle and motivation is still an issue.
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dustin999 said:

techno-ag said:

dustin999 said:

techno-ag said:

dustin999 said:

Weed does have pharmaceutical applications.

So does alcohol and tobacco. At least, that's what their proponents claimed back in the day. Walgreens Pharmacy got off to its start during Prohibition when people could get liquor prescriptions filled there for medical purposes. Doctors used to discuss the health benefits of smoking, too. Look up ads for the "T-zone" cigarettes were supposed to help. Benefits to nicotine similar to caffeine, etc.


I understand what you're trying to say, but that was 100 years ago. Are you trying to argue that weed has no pharmaceutical benefit now?

No I'm saying efforts to remove things from the restricted list have a long history of highlighting their pharmaceutical benefits. Years later after more study we often find the pharmaceutical benefits are not what we thought they were, though.


So if weed has no pharmaceutical benefit 100 years from now, that means it doesn't now either.

Again, are you arguing it has no pharmaceutical benefit? You're saying you're not but then you go on about how they used to say the same about alcohol and tobacco.

Just say what you stand for.

Are you saying alcohol has no medicinal value? It does. Likewise do a search on the pharmaceutical benefits of the tobacco leaf. But smoking tobacco and drinking more than a little are now known to be more detrimental than beneficial.

What I stand for is not falling for an argument that has been used on other things. In time the negatives health effects of marijuana will likely outweigh the perceived pharmaceutical benefits presently touted. Good medical research takes time.
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txyaloo said:

Slicer97 said:

Lathspell said:

Im okay with those regulations as long as they aren't made to block small businesses from entering the market to create competition, which a lot of regulations pushed by big lobbyists try to do.
I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen. Small businesses can't line the pockets of politicians the way large corporations do. And I haven't come across a politician that didn't like having their pockets lined.
That's what I think as well. One of the 3 licensed Texas dispensaries will also start selling hemp based products since these companies are already licensed, regulated, have suppliers for packaging, and have big $$$ backers.

I'm sure some of the out of state manufacturers will make Texas compliant stuff, but out of state companies like Snapdragon Hemp who makes some awesome farm bill compliant edibles, drinks, and carts, will no longer be able to ship to or sell in Texas.

I hope the Texas industry takes off and brings similar products and competition
Here's what I do not understand. I have bought the hemp-weed here...I took a 10mg gummy that knocked me on my ass. Actually hit me harder than the 10mg reg THC gummies from Cali/Colorado.

Why are we even doing this song and dance if the weed products are just as strong as the ones in the dispensaries of CA, CO, AZ, OK etc?

This is silly...just legalize cannabis...or at least adopt a medical MJ approach like OK has.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

txyaloo said:

Slicer97 said:

Lathspell said:

Im okay with those regulations as long as they aren't made to block small businesses from entering the market to create competition, which a lot of regulations pushed by big lobbyists try to do.
I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen. Small businesses can't line the pockets of politicians the way large corporations do. And I haven't come across a politician that didn't like having their pockets lined.
That's what I think as well. One of the 3 licensed Texas dispensaries will also start selling hemp based products since these companies are already licensed, regulated, have suppliers for packaging, and have big $$$ backers.

I'm sure some of the out of state manufacturers will make Texas compliant stuff, but out of state companies like Snapdragon Hemp who makes some awesome farm bill compliant edibles, drinks, and carts, will no longer be able to ship to or sell in Texas.

I hope the Texas industry takes off and brings similar products and competition
Here's what I do not understand. I have bought the hemp-weed here...I took a 10mg gummy that knocked me on my ass. Actually hit me harder than the 10mg reg THC gummies from Cali/Colorado.

Why are we even doing this song and dance if the weed products are just as strong as the ones in the dispensaries of CA, CO, AZ, OK etc?

This is silly...just legalize cannabis...or at least adopt a medical MJ approach like OK has.
The medical MJ industry here also threw money at dip**** Dan. Alot. Some say they contributed the most. They also are losing some of their share of the pie.
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Reps are speaking out.

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Our political system is so screwed up. It seems like merit of the legislation is the last consideration. As much as I hate the federal omnibus bills, the single subject bills in the Texas legislature aren't much better. They still use pressure from other bills to go against the will of the voters. They're all beholden to special interest groups. It's always about money and it shouldn't be.
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Impeachment Articles should be brought up on Dan Patrick for misconduct, corruption, & abuse of power.
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BurnetAggie99 said:

Impeachment Articles should be brought up on Dan Patrick for misconduct, corruption, & abuse of power.
I agree, but add Abbott to the list as well. He did the same thing with school voucher bill. He said he'd veto any piece of legislation that came through if the legislature didn't pass the school voucher scam. They're all crooks and do not represent the will of the people.
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Gig em G said:

Why should we be limited to Texas grown hemp only? It's legal under federal law so we should have access to products made elsewhere…

I'm thinking to get around any federal intersate commerce regulation. Texas wans to avoid federal lawsuis, a al Arkansas, so that may be their thinking.
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Charpie said:

Some things to keep in mind.

The only reason the initial ban was passed was that Patrick was holding school funding hostage. Right now, he has no leverage. That is why you are seeing him act out the way that he is. He literally has no power. He can't bully a damn thing. The House won't pass a ban. They want what Abbott wants.

We need to continue to put pressure on our reps!

I never knew this. Lt Dan I could understand, but never knew why so many reps got behind it in the first place.
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Cougar11 said:

schmellba99 said:

Cougar11 said:

abusing weed will absolutely mess you up, seen it played out numerous times
And I've seen far more folks that can function far better in society while "abusing" weed than those that can function while abusing alcohol.

Abuse of anything will mess you up, legal, illegal, etc. Not sure what the point of this take is, but whatever.
you weed people are so defensive abusing any substance of course will mess you up, I am talking specifically to weed effects on people who abuse it over time.
What effects, what people, and how much time? And there is absolutely nothing defensive about providing clarification to a comment. Only people that get defensive about that are actually defensive.

I've seen this trope thrown out a few times now without any type of actual substance behind it.

BTW - "you weed people" is funny. I like it. Use it more.
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Yay for freedom, but need to stay on their ass for the special session.

Dingbat Dan has to go. Ridiculous abuse of power to cram thru legislation that is 100% motivated by him getting paid.
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Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
No, it's like I told you earlier in this thread - your take is just stupid and you are getting called out it and are being predictably defensive by trying to deflect from that fact.
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BBRex said:

schmellba99 said:

dustin999 said:

Is this really common or possible? I've always heard USPS is super lax on these things, with some even joking that USPS would be out of business if they started checking packages and enforcing this.

I've always heard it's very unlikely that something would happen. I'm also wondering what the biggest punishment would be. For example in Travis county, I don't even think they do anything if it's less than 2 ounces, but I get that USPS has federal overlap/jurisdiction.
Y'all realize that jetch was talking about having his craptastic Pine Sol bog water IPA shipped to him, right?
Pliny is about the best craptostic Pine Sol bog water you can get in a bottle. If he had a local source, I'd be asking about it, too.
That's akin to trying to say that Turd A is of better turd quality than Turd B though.

In the end, they are both still turds. Like IPA's.
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Y'all are gay.
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Lathspell said:

Im okay with those regulations as long as they aren't made to block small businesses from entering the market to create competition, which a lot of regulations pushed by big lobbyists try to do.
i dont know how you can read that list and think anything else.
Whether intentional or not is up for debate, but the outcome of it all wont be.
That type of overregulation is exactly why our beef prices have gotten so high. they will use that same playbook.
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schmellba99 said:

Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
No, it's like I told you earlier in this thread - your take is just stupid and you are getting called out it and are being predictably defensive by trying to deflect from that fact.
You certainly took a u turn in your position on the matter about half way through the thread. What happened?
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El Gallo Blanco said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

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1) Child resistant/tamper proof packaging. Most THC products I see in Texas or other states aren't sold this way





Every product I have ever purchased from a legit dispensary in a state where it's legal is in completely child proof packaging. Often times difficult for adults to open TBH.

The stuff from here though...just classic ziplock from my experience.

I can 2nd the child (and Westhoustonag79) proof packaging. I've also never been to dispensary in a legal state that wasn't hardcore on ID scans, process by the letter of the law etc bc they do not want to risk any kind of legal issues.

In my experience, even going back to pre-Vape/THC-A shops whatever, If you want to smoke weed in HS and live in Houston, it is not hard at all to figure it. I (sadly) admit freaking buyer a G from a dude on the freshmen football team with me when I was 15 and I attended a higher end ranked public school.

In my personal opinion, the Colorado/NV type dispensaries would make it a lot HARDER for non-legal age to just pop in and buy legal green.

And in my opinion, if they want to find it outside legal sources, they will anyway. I'm mid thirties highly productive member of society, break no laws outside of traffic violations etc, and feel that if you wanted me to be resourceful and find a bag of weed by the end of the day I could figure it out.
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Rattler12 said:

schmellba99 said:

Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
No, it's like I told you earlier in this thread - your take is just stupid and you are getting called out it and are being predictably defensive by trying to deflect from that fact.
You certainly took a u turn in your position on the matter about half way through the thread. What happened?
Well, I'm not him, but I have taken zero U-turns on this. Facts are
1. Many adults take THC products for actual ailments
2. For clarity, someone that has trouble sleeping is an ailment by my usage above
3. These products are much cheaper than the prescription medicines made to treat these same ailments
4. These products are legal in the US
5. Dan Patrick strong-armed many to make illegal in Texas what is both legal in the US and they help many citizens of this state.
6. His public reason is "to help children", even though he didn't ban these for children only.

Now, my opinions
1. Since he banned these products for EVERYONE, he doesn't give a **** about children
2. He used the "but the children" excuse like many dumbass lib policies are defended
3. He's taking bribe money from Big Pharma, Alcohol and the Medical MJ industries to do this
4. The vast majority of citizens in this state do not support it

And, since you mentioned it above, I don't take the stuff because I'm drug tested and can't have it in my system.
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In my personal opinion, the Colorado/NV type dispensaries would make it a lot HARDER for non-legal age to just pop in and buy legal green.
For. Sure. The system there works in that regard.

The only thing some of those states don't get right are the tax %'s. Some of them tax so much that only weed tourists and the rich will buy legally. Taxing something 30-40% is just straight up propping up the black market.
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And you didn't even list what I consider the biggest illogical point: alcohol.

Literally EVERY argument Patrick puts forth can be turned around by replacing THC with alcohol. Is he on a crusade to take us back to prohibition? No? Then he has no actual principle he is basing this crusade on. He simply is being paid by lobbyists and is a boomer who hates weed because he grew up with the reefer madness bull*****
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Lathspell said:

And you didn't even list what I consider the biggest illogical point: alcohol.

Literally EVERY argument Patrick puts forth can be turned around by replacing THC with alcohol. Is he on a crusade to take us back to prohibition? No? Then he has no actual principle he is basing this crusade on. He simply is being paid by lobbyists and is a boomer who hates weed because he grew up with the reefer madness bull*****


He doesn't give two ****s about weed. He doesn't give two sjits about children either. He wants more power and wants to win elections. Now and bigger ones later.

The orgs I listed got together and dangled lots of cash in his face. So he quietly goes about pushing this, strong-arming as he goes, and gets it passes before most know WTF is going on. But, it goes public so he needs a new strategy.

Let's see how he hides it this time. My guess is the regulations out on it will kill the industry eventually so his big dollar folks may have to wait a bit before you can't get it any more.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

txyaloo said:

Science Denier said:

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1) Child resistant/tamper proof packaging. Most THC products I see in Texas or other states aren't sold this way





Every product I have ever purchased from a legit dispensary in a state where it's legal is in completely child proof packaging. Often times difficult for adults to open TBH.

The stuff from here though...just classic ziplock from my experience.
Those bags Joy Bombs come in are no joke!
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I feel like you're just trying to twist words. I have no idea about the pharmaceutical applications of alcohol and tobacco, I was just affirming what I thought you were saying, I've literally never heard of someone using alcohol or tobacco for any real treatments other than drinking a pint of whiskey in the 1800s to pull a tooth.

I'm sorry but I sorta think your argument is garbage and you keep contradicting yourself trying to play the gotcha game on my replies, e.g. "they used to think alcohol had pharmaceutical applications" and now you're saying they do???

Anyway, there are countless stories of kids who suffer from certain types of seizures, and the only thing that seems to contain them is THC. If you think that's bull****, maybe you should go advise the parents on what they should do for their little girl or boy who has 40 seizures a day.

Look up Addyson Benton.

You are basically running around with a solution that's looking for a problem. Yes there are pro marijuana people who are insane thinking THC solves everything, and you're I guess the counterbalance trying to tell everyone the whole medical marijuana thing is a joke. It's certainly not for some specific applications.

And besides, who the f cares what responsible adults do.

I guess you're even more extreme than Dan Patrick who at least believes in TCUP (as garbage as that program might be).
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Science Denier said:

Rattler12 said:

schmellba99 said:

Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
No, it's like I told you earlier in this thread - your take is just stupid and you are getting called out it and are being predictably defensive by trying to deflect from that fact.
You certainly took a u turn in your position on the matter about half way through the thread. What happened?
Well, I'm not him, but I have taken zero U-turns on this. Facts are
1. Many adults take THC products for actual ailments
2. For clarity, someone that has trouble sleeping is an ailment by my usage above
3. These products are much cheaper than the prescription medicines made to treat these same ailments
4. These products are legal in the US
5. Dan Patrick strong-armed many to make illegal in Texas what is both legal in the US and they help many citizens of this state.
6. His public reason is "to help children", even though he didn't ban these for children only.

Now, my opinions
1. Since he banned these products for EVERYONE, he doesn't give a **** about children
2. He used the "but the children" excuse like many dumbass lib policies are defended
3. He's taking bribe money from Big Pharma, Alcohol and the Medical MJ industries to do this
4. The vast majority of citizens in this state do not support it

And, since you mentioned it above, I don't take the stuff because I'm drug tested and can't have it in my system.

I don't disagree with your fact #'s 1 thru 4. I've seen no proof of the validity of #5 as respects Patricks actions. I saw his reason #6 but no reference as to what age group makes up "the children" Making alcohol illegal for those under the age of 21 has certainly worked out well and the same outcome would probably also prevail for hemp products.

As for your opinions.... #'s 1and 2 are a reach (imho) I would like to see proof of #3 and if there is proof he is indeed doing so he needs to be charged and prosecuted. I would also like to see the proof for #4. If you have it please post it

As for your last comment if the only reason you are not using hemp products is because of drug testing by your employer you can either start working with your current employer to change their stance on these particular products because of facts 1 thru 4 or seek employment elsewhere where such testing and rules are not in place.
 
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