TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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How much money does this moron get from the alcohol and tobacco industries? Seriously.

So much for freedom, liberty and all that good stuff
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Gaeilge said:

Given that THC capsules have gotten my father off of opiod use for chronic pain from being old and dozens of surgeries, I'll take my chances transporting the stuff back to TX for his health. I refuse to sit idly by while he suffers in immense pain because opiods scare the hell out of him given their well documented addictiveness. He is a recovering alcoholic that hasn't had a drink in 40 years. THC capsules finally bring him to a comfortable level to function a bit more actively.

F*** Dan Patrick
Has he explored enrolling in CUP?

$85 and he can get a prescription to buy all the legal edibles he wants delivered to his door for a year. Pretty much 100% approval if you go to the right telemedicine service. 200mg is $65 and 100% legal for him to use without risk to either of you from transporting it. He's the perfect use case.
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Ags4DaWin said:

Got three teenagers middle school and up.

They are seeing middle schoolers vaping in the bathrooms and it is becoming a problem.

Marijuana is ****ing awful and smells worse than cigarette smoke and as far as second hand smoke is gives you headaches and *****

In areas where it is legalized and they do it in multiunit housing/apartments its ****ing awful for surrounding residents.

Used to think it wasn't a big deal because i really don't care if someone wants to fry their brain on pot, but after being exposed to the fact that potheads are inconsiderate AF about how and where and when they choose to light up has made me reconsider my position on that matter.

At least most smokers I know ask politely before lighting up.
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B-1 83 said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Got three teenagers middle school and up.

They are seeing middle schoolers vaping in the bathrooms and it is becoming a problem.

Marijuana is ****ing awful and smells worse than cigarette smoke and as far as second hand smoke is gives you headaches and *****

In areas where it is legalized and they do it in multiunit housing/apartments its ****ing awful for surrounding residents.

Used to think it wasn't a big deal because i really don't care if someone wants to fry their brain on pot, but after being exposed to the fact that potheads are inconsiderate AF about how and where and when they choose to light up has made me reconsider my position on that matter.

At least most smokers I know ask politely before lighting up.
Gummies don't stink


Depends on travel storage.
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91AggieLawyer said:

schmellba99 said:

I love how they put a map of schools and hemp shops together.

Now do a map with schools and gas stations or grocery stores. So stupid.

This will just pump more money into the cartels. People are going to smoke weed and eat gummies - because people, for as long as we have been on this earth, have always found something that makes them feel good. Alcohol, peyote, mushrooms, weed, heorin, opium...you name it. Tx lege is full of idiots.

People are going to drive drunk. Does that mean we should legalize it?
False analogy
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Such bull*****

This should be put on the ballot. It is not the government's job to tell me what I can and can't do in my home, if it doesn't affect anyone else.

What a jackass.
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This doesnt stop THC consumption in this state. What it does is stop safe consumption of THC.

Bills like this open up avenues for synthetics, which are 100 times worse. Cant vote this clown out of office soon enough

rsf0626
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Personally, I think weed should be banned, but I doubt the corrupt Texas gov is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Maybe their buddies south of the border needed a new income stream now that Trump is going hard on their fent labs.
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Lathspell said:

Such bull*****

This should be put on the ballot. It is not the government's job to tell me what I can and can't do in my home, if it doesn't affect anyone else.

What a jackass.


There's a reason they don't put it on the ballot. They want to dictate your choices to you, not give you the opportunity to govern yourself. And they know that most Texans disagree with them on this.

With any luck the House will tank this, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Need to primary him in 2026.
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panhandlefarmer said:

Need to primary him in 2026.
Where's Elon's billions when you need them? As a Texas resident who enjoys weed, he should be onboard with this
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Such a stupid thing for Dan and his merry band of morons to prioritize
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Rossticus said:

Lathspell said:

Such bull*****

This should be put on the ballot. It is not the government's job to tell me what I can and can't do in my home, if it doesn't affect anyone else.

What a jackass.


There's a reason they don't put it on the ballot. They want to dictate your choices to you, not give you the opportunity to govern yourself. And they know that most Texans disagree with them on this.

With any luck the House will tank this, but I'm not holding my breath.


I hope so. But Patrick is saying if it doesn't pass during the regular session then they will get it done in a special session. Will Abbott call a special session for this?
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I've always been told that conservatives are for smaller government and less intrusion into people's lives. Yet our state government seems to be in favor of less federal government but a more intrusive state government. What's the difference?
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Aggie97 said:

Rossticus said:

Lathspell said:

Such bull*****

This should be put on the ballot. It is not the government's job to tell me what I can and can't do in my home, if it doesn't affect anyone else.

What a jackass.


There's a reason they don't put it on the ballot. They want to dictate your choices to you, not give you the opportunity to govern yourself. And they know that most Texans disagree with them on this.

With any luck the House will tank this, but I'm not holding my breath.


I hope so. But Patrick is saying if it doesn't pass during the regular session then they will get it done in a special session. Will Abbott call a special session for this?


If he does it'll tell me a lot about him. Would be setting taxpayer money on fire. At least it would shine a very public spotlight on their stupidity.
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Never see a massive push from our elected officials when it comes to tolls, taxes, property taxes, fees, whatever the ****.
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

I've always been told that conservatives are for smaller government and less intrusion into people's lives. Yet our state government seems to be in favor of less federal government but a more intrusive state government. What's the difference?


$$$$$$$$$$

Danny Boy don't get kickbacks when the federal gubmint gets intrusive.
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Have never even tried weed but who cares?

There are many other legal vices that are worse than weed. If it isn't due to money, I don't understand why he is hellbent on this being his main issue.

Of all Texas officials, Patrick has always been the one I've liked least.


I now understand how easy it is to get hooked on Oxy/Dilaudid.

I deal with pain before I take it daily.
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Tergdor said:

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txyaloo said:

Tergdor said:

txyaloo said:

Tergdor said:

From my recollection of a work meeting, this bill is more complex than it appears. The bill is simply banning the sale THC products and allowing CBD products to be sold. The bill is going to cut down significantly on drug enforcement and testing since labs won't have to test pens for CBD anymore.

THC pens were always illegal, shops just skirted around it every way they could. This is just closing the loophole and Patrick getting to virtue signal to his old friends that he banned weed again.

He should ban galaxy gas next.
It also makes possession of THC illegal. So no importing from out of state. Better hope any CBD you buy is actually "THC free" which I don't think is possible.

What would also completely cut out drug testing bills? Legalizing marijuana. No need to test a legal substance.

They can't put the weed genie back in the bottle. The public enjoys the taste of freedom they've received from their political overlords. I have no issues banning smoking flower in public, but completely banning sale/possession of "vape shop" THC is ridiculous until CUP is updated/expanded.


Possessing THC was always illegal, that's why carts/pens were tested in the first place. Across state lines is federally illegal.

You can get CBD isolates. They've been on the drug market for a long time.
Except there's supposedly a difference between hemp derived products with THC content <whatever the legal percentage is and "illegal thc" both federally and in state law.

Guess I should have been more specific - the bill makes possession of items "that contain hemp or one or more hemp-derived cannabinoids" illegal which effectively bans all vape shop products which are currently legal
Well, I went and read the bill. The bill doesn't touch anything that has to do with the regulation of low-THC hemp/cannabis in chapter 487, so I think those are still fine. It looks like the bill only focuses on manufactured and artificial products and how they're sold.

Here's the major changes I saw with a quick read through:

1. Smoke shops need to get a license to sell
2. Products have to be tested/approved before sale
3. Products can only have CBD and CBG
4. D-9 0.3% exception is gone
5. No synthetic cannabinoids allowed
6. No mixing with other drugs
7. No shops within 1000 feet of a school
8. Can't market to kids

This shows just how little Dan Patrick either knows about his top 5 issue of all time or how much he's been paid off.

1) Why would a smoke shop need a license to sell something suddenly deemed illegal?
2) Tens of thousdans of products across all sectors aren't FDA approved (insert covid " safe vaccines")
3) They can have CBD but not THC. Why is that Dan? And could he even break down the difference?
4) D-9 <0.3% banned yet he told us these products are stronger than marijuana sold on the streets
5) So does he want purer products out in the market?
6) No mixing with other drugs like what? None of these products that I know of are.
7) As has already been stated, alcohol, cigs, vapes, etc within a football field fine but not D9.Makes sense.
8) They don't market to kids and there is a legal age limit to purchase these products and most stores even scan your ID as a measure of self policing LEGAL products!

I forget when this idiot's term is up but he once again makes the Republican party to look like complete imbeciles on behalf of himself as do the idiotic other Republicans that voted to go along with this bullsh.

One would think this guy is a Democrat he's that corrupt and ******ed.
1. The license is to sell CBD/CBG, which this bill essentially makes legal.
2. It has nothing to do with the FDA. The products have to be submitted to a state lab to make sure it's actually what is being advertised.
3. THC makes you high. That's why.
4. Ok
5. Yes, he wants it to be pure CBD/CBG.
6. Mixed with nicotine, kratom, etc.
7. All of those are banned to sell within a football field too. The bill bans the sale.
8. Yes, they do. All addictive drug companies try to market to children. Juuls marketed to children, cigs used to until it was banned, vape pens and cartridges often do, and Galaxy Gas is the most obviously "marketed to kids" drug that exists right now even though you have to be 21 to buy it in Texas. They advertise to kids because are willingly supplying the secondary black market that takes place in schools and want to introduce it to them as early as possible so they become customers later. The bill specifies what it considers "marketing to children" and bans it.
lol. Is this Dan's official assistant's TexAgs account? So much looting going on here:

1. So now one needs a license to sell strictly CBD products that are already legal? Ok

2. We know it has nothing to do with the FDA. Nor do most things people consume.

3. THC makes you high, that's why? Sorry for partying, lieutenant.

4. "Ok" is all you got? Please explain how a regulated amount of D9 is stronger than marijuana off the street. First, the two aren't even the same thing, and secondly Dan and you must know the worst dealers on planet earth if that is the case.

5. He has no idea what CBD/CBG is

6. Notice he hasn't called for an end to nicotine or Kratom/Kava? Hmmm.....Why?

7. What's your definition of "children" or "kids"?

You'd have been a huge hit as a puritan tyrant in the 1920s during the prohibition era. It's the year 2025 now and we have advanced in a responsible way, even if you haven't while sucking on the big pharma teat at our own tax payer expense.

I pay taxes for God knows what these days but not for some nerd to spend countless hours developing a map showing us how close a freaking CVS is to a public school FFS.



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BoydCrowder13 said:

Have never even tried weed but who cares?

There are many other legal vices that are worse than weed. If it isn't due to money, I don't understand why he is hellbent on this being his main issue.

Of all Texas officials, Patrick has always been the one I've liked least.


Dan is a carpetbagging yankee from Maryland
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Aggie Dad Sip said:

I've always been told that conservatives are for smaller government and less intrusion into people's lives. Yet our state government seems to be in favor of less federal government but a more intrusive state government. What's the difference?


Why would you think Texas' govt is conservative?
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Pookers said:

Loquacious Lunchbox said:

Nice to live in a free state. Still have the problem of big corporate cannabis writing all the laws and shutting down the little guys but one step at a time.

This seems more like something the cartels, pfizer, or a combo of both would be doing.
You might be surprised. Legal cannabis is a huge industry with a number of national-scale players. Right now where I live it's as if Bud, Miller, and Coors successfully lobbied for the end of prohibition and then wrote the resulting laws saying that only they can sell beer. So everything at the dispensaries is overpriced mass produced mega-corp junk. I want to see a thriving "craft brewing" scene where small growers can sell small-batch artisanal stuff with the finest flavors and aromas. But as I said, one step at a time.
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Legalize and tax, it is the American way!
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Let THC stores and gambling replace property tax....
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Smoke shops are taking over small towns right now, with no ability to effectively zone them out of certain areas. We're in a small town (sub 6000) and we have 5 of them already. Have some vacant lots in our downtown and almost every one of the calls is people coming in wanting to open smoke shops or sell THC.
Legalize it, ban it, do whatever they want, but the law needs to be cleaned up or we're going to end up with more and more shady smoke shops and game rooms in every town in Texas.
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aggiegolfer2012 said:

Smoke shops are taking over small towns right now, with no ability to effectively zone them out of certain areas. We're in a small town (sub 6000) and we have 5 of them already. Have some vacant lots in our downtown and almost every one of the calls is people coming in wanting to open smoke shops or sell THC.
Legalize it, ban it, do whatever they want, but the law needs to be cleaned up or we're going to end up with more and more shady smoke shops and game rooms in every town in Texas.


You sound like a Church of Christer on the South Plains voting to keep your county dry. Let adults have their freedom.
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You sound like a failed farmer in the South Plains voting to keep your county non-GMO. Let the blight have its freedom.
FIFY
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We can no longer tout Texas as a freedom loving state when we just continually do stuff like this. We don't care about individual freedom when we ban stuff like this and outlaw political memes.
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I literally said legalize it or not, I don't care.
I just don't think having one end up on every street corner in a small town is the best thing. If we had one or two stores in a town of 6000, wouldn't even notice it. But 5 with another one building and more try to find lots? That's a bit too much.
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aggiegolfer2012 said:

I literally said legalize it or not, I don't care.
I just don't think having one end up on every street corner in a small town is the best thing. If we had one or two stores in a town of 6000, wouldn't even notice it. But 5 with another one building and more try to find lots? That's a bit too much.
Sounds like you've missed a prime opportunity to make some bank.
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aggiegolfer2012 said:

I literally said legalize it or not, I don't care.
I just don't think having one end up on every street corner in a small town is the best thing. If we had one or two stores in a town of 6000, wouldn't even notice it. But 5 with another one building and more try to find lots? That's a bit too much.


So……..you're against the free market……..a bloody communist is what you are my lad!!
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aggiegolfer2012 said:

I literally said legalize it or not, I don't care.
I just don't think having one end up on every street corner in a small town is the best thing. If we had one or two stores in a town of 6000, wouldn't even notice it. But 5 with another one building and more try to find lots? That's a bit too much.


If it is indeed too much the businesses will fail. If they don't fail, well, supply and demand baby.
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I just don't think having one end up on every street corner in a small town is the best thing. If we had one or two stores in a town of 6000, wouldn't even notice it. But 5 with another one building and more try to find lots? That's a bit too much.
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It'll die off eventually as market competition gets to be too much. People are chasing trends and opening up shops that are relatively low cost of entry and low overhead.

We used to have cell phone repair shops in every strip mall a decade ago for the same reason, and now not as many remain
 
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