TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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Cougar11 said:

schmellba99 said:

Cougar11 said:

abusing weed will absolutely mess you up, seen it played out numerous times
And I've seen far more folks that can function far better in society while "abusing" weed than those that can function while abusing alcohol.

Abuse of anything will mess you up, legal, illegal, etc. Not sure what the point of this take is, but whatever.
you weed people are so defensive abusing any substance of course will mess you up, I am talking specifically to weed effects on people who abuse it over time.


I just don't believe it. Stoners are relaxed people that arent stereotypically fat or causing problems. I also dont see how you can abuse weed either. There's a little high, high and way too high. Nobody likes way too high
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Cougar11 said:

you weed people are so defensive abusing any substance of course will mess you up, I am talking specifically to weed effects on people who abuse it over time.

Honestly as a regular consumer of hemp-based products, I don't disagree with you. I think there are a lot of stoners, perhaps myself included, that are trying to justify their use. I've always thought it was funny how lighting up a cigarette in public is just so taboo now, but hitting your vape or smoking a joint is okay.

There's not much good about weed, but there's even less good about alcohol and tobacco. Weed does have pharmaceutical applications.

For those struggling with sleep, I use weed to help with sleep, and while I sleep through the night, I don't dream as much, which I believe means less REM sleep which is bad. However, on the rare occasion I'm woken up in the middle of the night, I have remembered a dream or two, so it makes me wonder if I am dreaming but just don't remember.

I guess my point is, I think weed can be an overall net negative for society and still be legal. What good does sugar do for society? I guess the diabetics benefit from it sometimes when their blood sugar level is low? What benefit is caffeine?

So not everything has to be a net positive to be legal. It's more about when it becomes too much of a net negative that we have to start questioning legality, and weed is nowhere near that threshold.
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Serious Lee said:

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FWIW

Regular cannabis use linked to changes in brain activity regulating movement

Cannabis Use & Its Link To Heart Disease | Watch
since your own personal experience seems to supercede what everyone here has been trying to tell you, you will have to accept me calling BS on this MSN (propo) piece with no citation, because THC has lowered my blood pressure to a much safer level. There always a downside, but it aint heart disease for me.

and for the more adventurous folks that like to get ******ed high, you still havent given them the name of your dealer yet. Just wait until you learn about Ayahuasca. Or better yet, the heavenly blue morning glory seeds a 15 year old can get at the local nursery.

Id suggest not wasting any more of your retirement trying to proselytize others because quite frankly, you are way out of your lane here with your 1 anecdotal experience (that sounds pretty fun to the teenage version of me).


Dude.....that was 40 years ago and at a private residence. I have no idea from whom or where he got it from or what might or might not have been added to it by him or who he got it from. Anecdotal to you maybe but pretty serious to me Serious
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Don't worry,,,,,your secret is safe with me.....but then again way back when I was SAPD so maybe not......
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Rattler12 said:

Serious Lee said:

Rattler12 said:

FWIW

Regular cannabis use linked to changes in brain activity regulating movement

Cannabis Use & Its Link To Heart Disease | Watch
since your own personal experience seems to supercede what everyone here has been trying to tell you, you will have to accept me calling BS on this MSN (propo) piece with no citation, because THC has lowered my blood pressure to a much safer level. There always a downside, but it aint heart disease for me.

and for the more adventurous folks that like to get ******ed high, you still havent given them the name of your dealer yet. Just wait until you learn about Ayahuasca. Or better yet, the heavenly blue morning glory seeds a 15 year old can get at the local nursery.

Id suggest not wasting any more of your retirement trying to proselytize others because quite frankly, you are way out of your lane here with your 1 anecdotal experience (that sounds pretty fun to the teenage version of me).


Dude.....that was 40 years ago and at a private residence. I have no idea from whom or where he got it from or what might or might not have been added to it by him or who he got it from. Anecdotal to you maybe but pretty serious to me Serious


You're wasting your finger muscles typing bud. Sorry you had a bad experience, things might be different if you tried again and took it slower this time.
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Rattler12 said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.
Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.
Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.
You probably had 'wet' weed. If you were hitting a bong, you were likely with some people that smoke a good bit of weed. They'll use 'wet' weed to increase their high because they've built a tolerance to the good ol' stuff.

They're notorious for ****ing with their unsuspecting friends because it gives them something to laugh about.
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Gaeilge said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.
Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.
Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.
You probably had 'wet' weed. If you were hitting a bong, you were likely with some people that smoke a good bit of weed. They'll use 'wet' weed to increase their high because they've built a tolerance to the good ol' stuff.

They're notorious for ****ing with their unsuspecting friends because it gives them something to laugh about.


Wet means with PCP... training day is hitting yall hard. Nobody smokes that even if theyre the biggest pot heads. Any friend that would do that to somebody is a grade a dbag
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TAMUallen said:

Gaeilge said:

Rattler12 said:

Texaggie7nine said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.
Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.
Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.
You probably had 'wet' weed. If you were hitting a bong, you were likely with some people that smoke a good bit of weed. They'll use 'wet' weed to increase their high because they've built a tolerance to the good ol' stuff.

They're notorious for ****ing with their unsuspecting friends because it gives them something to laugh about.


Wet means with PCP... training day is hitting yall hard. Nobody smokes that even if theyre the biggest pot heads. Any friend that would do that to somebody is a grade a dbag
He said it was 40yrs ago. Dumbasses were still ****ing around with lacing weed with PCP and formaldehyde back in the 80s.
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First thing I thought when I read that goofball story was it was laced with PCP. His "friends" screwed with him and 40 years later he still doesn't realize it. He inadvertently provided a wonderful example of why it should be legal, so that people can buy from reputable companies whose product is tested and they know exactly what they are consuming. No mystery ingredients. Clearly labeled content and potency.
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dustin999 said:

Cougar11 said:

you weed people are so defensive abusing any substance of course will mess you up, I am talking specifically to weed effects on people who abuse it over time.

Honestly as a regular consumer of hemp-based products, I don't disagree with you. I think there are a lot of stoners, perhaps myself included, that are trying to justify their use. I've always thought it was funny how lighting up a cigarette in public is just so taboo now, but hitting your vape or smoking a joint is okay.

There's not much good about weed, but there's even less good about alcohol and tobacco. Weed does have pharmaceutical applications.

For those struggling with sleep, I use weed to help with sleep, and while I sleep through the night, I don't dream as much, which I believe means less REM sleep which is bad. However, on the rare occasion I'm woken up in the middle of the night, I have remembered a dream or two, so it makes me wonder if I am dreaming but just don't remember.

I guess my point is, I think weed can be an overall net negative for society and still be legal. What good does sugar do for society? I guess the diabetics benefit from it sometimes when their blood sugar level is low? What benefit is caffeine?

So not everything has to be a net positive to be legal. It's more about when it becomes too much of a net negative that we have to start questioning legality, and weed is nowhere near that threshold.

So does alcohol and tobacco. At least, that's what their proponents claimed back in the day. Walgreens Pharmacy got off to its start during Prohibition when people could get liquor prescriptions filled there for medical purposes. Doctors used to discuss the health benefits of smoking, too. Look up ads for the "T-zone" cigarettes were supposed to help. Benefits to nicotine similar to caffeine, etc.
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Rattler12 said:

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Most opponents of this bill weren't saying, "But I need my THC for sleep aide!"

There have been MANY reasons individuals don't want this outlawed. They range from using the gummies for sleep, pain alleviation, PTSD, anxiety, and a myriad of other conditions various people take this to help with. However, the core of the argument is whether the government should tell free citizens they can't pull a plant out of the ground and smoke it. Or take the natural resin from said plant, bake it into food or a gummy, and eat it.

If I wish to sit in my home on a Friday night and get high, that is NO ONE'S BUSINESS.

Every single argument I have heard is irrational and can be turned around on the proponents of this bill by changing "THC" to "alcohol". Have you ever smoked weed before? Have you ever taken one of these gummies? If you have and have also consumed alcohol in your life, you would know for a fact that alcohol's effects and the harm its consumption causes on our society, is literally thousands of times greater than THC.

Then, you look at the argument of taking it away from the cartels as a cash crop, along with the jobs it creates, the money it brings to citizens and the money the government brings in from taxes... I truly don't understand any rational argument against it. The ONLY reason you can have for wanting it illegal, if you're being honest with yourself, is because you're a busy-body authoritarian who just doesn't like the fact some people like to get high. Even that opinion is ignorant unless you hold the same opinion on alcohol sales.
Please point to the post where I said I wanted it illegal. I believe I said that Abbot could veto or not veto it and that it made no difference to me one way or the other. And yes I have tried cannabis...twice... once it did nothing, the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly. I drink alcohol but have NEVER been in that kind of condition where I could not defend or take care of myself if the need arose. After that experience I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot poll

You guys that like to get high from it's regular use have at it. Use it every night. For those that like to compare it to alcohol, which seems to be a reoccurring theme throughout these 38 pages think about this.....If an alcoholic thinks he just has to have a drink or five every night to relieve his pain, release tension, stress and relax is he in control of the alcohol or is the alcohol in control of him? How is that scenario any different than the person that needs a hit or two of a cannabis product every night for the same reasons and I am not referencing, in any way, the people that have actual physical injuries in any way. I'm not a Dr. but perhaps looking into the causes of said tension, stress and pain are needed.

To the poster that mentioned me and "bluster" in his post. What do you consider these responses?....and that's just off of one page of the 38

"quite welcome to asphyxiate on a satchel of richards."
"He's such a corrupt slimeball."
"he looks like someone's old lesbian aunt Rhonda."
"He's just being a passive aggressive ****."

For being independent thinkers yall remind me of this when the subject of cannabis and it's derivatives come up


Your post is filled with so many jumps in logic, it's astounding.

First of all, i literally said, "the ONLY reason you can have for wanting it illegal." I never said you directly stated you want it illegal. I'm referring to the general group being antagonistic towards THC products. And, i'm sorry, but anyone who's arguing as vehemently as you on a football forum about THC being bad is someone who wants it illegal. You can lie to yourself all you want.

So your anecdotal example of smoking weed was (1) you puffed your first joint and didn't inhale, so didn't get high; and (2) you hit too big of a bong hit for someone who's never been high, and got blasted. Then you proceeded to say you drink alcohol but have never been in that condition? There is so much wrong with this, you must be purposefully obtuse. You do realize it's basically impossible to die from smoking too much weed, right? You would literally have to hit thousands of bong hits at once to kill yourself.

You're comparing your lifetime of learning to control your alcohol intake with the one time you took too big of a hit from a bong. That's like saying motorcycles should be illegal because you once got on a crotch-rocket, throttled it as hard as you could, and ended up crashing. Therefore, motorcycles are extremely dangerous and should be banned because every time you get in your car, you are able to control it just fine and always get to where you're going without crashing.

And what is this last statement about comparing alcoholism to those who take a gummy or two at night to help with anxiety, PTSD, sleep aide, and any other affliction they are looking to get help with? Are you saying these people should just wish their pain away? How moronic are you? Are you saying they should be dependent on prescription drugs instead? That may be one of the dumbest takes I've see on F16 in a long time... and that's saying something. You do realize alcoholics have a chemical addition and you don't get chemically addicted to THC, don't you?
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techno-ag said:

dustin999 said:

Weed does have pharmaceutical applications.

So does alcohol and tobacco. At least, that's what their proponents claimed back in the day. Walgreens Pharmacy got off to its start during Prohibition when people could get liquor prescriptions filled there for medical purposes. Doctors used to discuss the health benefits of smoking, too. Look up ads for the "T-zone" cigarettes were supposed to help. Benefits to nicotine similar to caffeine, etc.


I understand what you're trying to say, but that was 100 years ago. Are you trying to argue that weed has no pharmaceutical benefit now?
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dustin999 said:

techno-ag said:

dustin999 said:

Weed does have pharmaceutical applications.

So does alcohol and tobacco. At least, that's what their proponents claimed back in the day. Walgreens Pharmacy got off to its start during Prohibition when people could get liquor prescriptions filled there for medical purposes. Doctors used to discuss the health benefits of smoking, too. Look up ads for the "T-zone" cigarettes were supposed to help. Benefits to nicotine similar to caffeine, etc.


I understand what you're trying to say, but that was 100 years ago. Are you trying to argue that weed has no pharmaceutical benefit now?

No I'm saying efforts to remove things from the restricted list have a long history of highlighting their pharmaceutical benefits. Years later after more study we often find the pharmaceutical benefits are not what we thought they were, though.
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Nice reply from Abbott 's office

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Thank you for contacting the Office of the Governor concerning Senate Bill 3 by Senator Charles Perry, relating to the regulation of products derived from hemp, including consumable hemp products and hemp-derived cannabinoids.



As you may know, the Governor vetoed Senate Bill 3 and has called a Special Session for the Legislature in July to further consider this matter, including ways to ensure that the law is enforceable. You can read the Governor's veto proclamation to Senate Bill 3 here.



Sincerely,

Marie Dahlmann Deputy Director Constituent Communication Division signature
Marie Dahlmann
Deputy Director, Constituent Communication Division



Here's the referenced link, it's long so I won't quote it all

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-vetoes-senate-bill-3-89r

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Senate Bill 3 is well-intentioned. But it would never go into effect because of valid constitutional challenges. Litigation challenging the bill has already been filed, and the legal defects in the bill are undeniable. If I were to allow Senate Bill 3 to become law, its enforcement would be enjoined for years, leaving existing abuses unaddressed. Texas cannot afford to wait.

This conclusion is not speculative. The only other State to attempt a ban like Senate Bill 3 is Arkansas. In 2023, Arkansas enacted Senate Bill 358, which (like this bill) would have criminalized hemp products that Congress expressly legalized in the 2018 Farm Bill. That federal law converted hemp and hemp products from contraband to lawful commodities. The Arkansas law was challenged, and a federal court swiftly halted it in its entirety, finding it was likely preempted by federal statutes and that its criminal provisions were likely unconstitutionally vague. See Bio Gen, LLC v. Sanders, 690 F. Supp. 3d 927, 941 (E.D. Ark. 2023). The result in Arkansas? Their law has sat dormant, meaningless, having no effect for nearly two years while further legal proceedings play



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How did we get here?

In 2019, after the federal government passed the Farm Bill, legislators passed House Bill 1325, fixating on the cannabis sativa plant. Any plant variant with more than 0.3% THC by dry weight was deemed (illegal) marijuana; any variant with less was deemed (legal) hemp available to anyone, regardless of age. As it turned out, the smaller amount of THC in hemp could be multiplied and modified to make products stronger and more addictive than marijuana. Bad actors did what bad actors dothey took advantage. They engineered products with dangerously high concentrations. And they marketed lollipops and other products designed to mimic candies popular with kids. The current market is dangerously under-regulated, and children are paying the price. If Senate Bill 3 is swiftly enjoined by a court, our children will be no safer than if no law was passed, and the problems will only grow.

That is why I am vetoing Senate Bill 3 and calling a Special Legislative Session in July to craft a law that does as much as possible to corral the problems while also being structured so that it can go into effect this year.


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Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
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Old Tom Morris said:

First thing I thought when I read that goofball story was it was laced with PCP. His "friends" screwed with him and 40 years later he still doesn't realize it. He inadvertently provided a wonderful example of why it should be legal, so that people can buy from reputable companies whose product is tested and they know exactly what they are consuming. No mystery ingredients. Clearly labeled content and potency.
Yeah your right......and it's been bothering the chit outta me for the last 39 years, 11 months and 21 days. I don't know how I've survived. I guess I need to look those phookers up
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So weird
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Lathspell said:

Rattler12 said:

Lathspell said:

Most opponents of this bill weren't saying, "But I need my THC for sleep aide!"

There have been MANY reasons individuals don't want this outlawed. They range from using the gummies for sleep, pain alleviation, PTSD, anxiety, and a myriad of other conditions various people take this to help with. However, the core of the argument is whether the government should tell free citizens they can't pull a plant out of the ground and smoke it. Or take the natural resin from said plant, bake it into food or a gummy, and eat it.

If I wish to sit in my home on a Friday night and get high, that is NO ONE'S BUSINESS.

Every single argument I have heard is irrational and can be turned around on the proponents of this bill by changing "THC" to "alcohol". Have you ever smoked weed before? Have you ever taken one of these gummies? If you have and have also consumed alcohol in your life, you would know for a fact that alcohol's effects and the harm its consumption causes on our society, is literally thousands of times greater than THC.

Then, you look at the argument of taking it away from the cartels as a cash crop, along with the jobs it creates, the money it brings to citizens and the money the government brings in from taxes... I truly don't understand any rational argument against it. The ONLY reason you can have for wanting it illegal, if you're being honest with yourself, is because you're a busy-body authoritarian who just doesn't like the fact some people like to get high. Even that opinion is ignorant unless you hold the same opinion on alcohol sales.
Please point to the post where I said I wanted it illegal. I believe I said that Abbot could veto or not veto it and that it made no difference to me one way or the other. And yes I have tried cannabis...twice... once it did nothing, the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly. I drink alcohol but have NEVER been in that kind of condition where I could not defend or take care of myself if the need arose. After that experience I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot poll

You guys that like to get high from it's regular use have at it. Use it every night. For those that like to compare it to alcohol, which seems to be a reoccurring theme throughout these 38 pages think about this.....If an alcoholic thinks he just has to have a drink or five every night to relieve his pain, release tension, stress and relax is he in control of the alcohol or is the alcohol in control of him? How is that scenario any different than the person that needs a hit or two of a cannabis product every night for the same reasons and I am not referencing, in any way, the people that have actual physical injuries in any way. I'm not a Dr. but perhaps looking into the causes of said tension, stress and pain are needed.

To the poster that mentioned me and "bluster" in his post. What do you consider these responses?....and that's just off of one page of the 38

"quite welcome to asphyxiate on a satchel of richards."
"He's such a corrupt slimeball."
"he looks like someone's old lesbian aunt Rhonda."
"He's just being a passive aggressive ****."

For being independent thinkers yall remind me of this when the subject of cannabis and it's derivatives come up


Your post is filled with so many jumps in logic, it's astounding.

First of all, i literally said, "the ONLY reason you can have for wanting it illegal." I never said you directly stated you want it illegal. I'm referring to the general group being antagonistic towards THC products. And, i'm sorry, but anyone who's arguing as vehemently as you on a football forum about THC being bad is someone who wants it illegal. You can lie to yourself all you want.

So your anecdotal example of smoking weed was (1) you puffed your first joint and didn't inhale, so didn't get high; and (2) you hit too big of a bong hit for someone who's never been high, and got blasted. Then you proceeded to say you drink alcohol but have never been in that condition? There is so much wrong with this, you must be purposefully obtuse. You do realize it's basically impossible to die from smoking too much weed, right? You would literally have to hit thousands of bong hits at once to kill yourself.

You're comparing your lifetime of learning to control your alcohol intake with the one time you took too big of a hit from a bong. That's like saying motorcycles should be illegal because you once got on a crotch-rocket, throttled it as hard as you could, and ended up crashing. Therefore, motorcycles are extremely dangerous and should be banned because every time you get in your car, you are able to control it just fine and always get to where you're going without crashing.

And what is this last statement about comparing alcoholism to those who take a gummy or two at night to help with anxiety, PTSD, sleep aide, and any other affliction they are looking to get help with? Are you saying these people should just wish their pain away? How moronic are you? Are you saying they should be dependent on prescription drugs instead? That may be one of the dumbest takes I've see on F16 in a long time... and that's saying something. You do realize alcoholics have a chemical addition and you don't get chemically addicted to THC, don't you?
And you're accusing me of jumps in logic? Geeze, I'm a mere amateur compared to you after reading what you just posted.
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You probably had 'wet' weed. If you were hitting a bong, you were likely with some people that smoke a good bit of weed. They'll use 'wet' weed to increase their high because they've built a tolerance to the good ol' stuff.

They're notorious for ****ing with their unsuspecting friends because it gives them something to laugh about.
Yep. If they're insisting "Dude, it's just weeed..."


It's not just weed.
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dustin999 said:

Is this really common or possible? I've always heard USPS is super lax on these things, with some even joking that USPS would be out of business if they started checking packages and enforcing this.

I've always heard it's very unlikely that something would happen. I'm also wondering what the biggest punishment would be. For example in Travis county, I don't even think they do anything if it's less than 2 ounces, but I get that USPS has federal overlap/jurisdiction.


If it's hemp derived gummies that are less than 0.3% delta 9 it's federally legal and companies out side of Texas will still ship them and USPS will still deliver them. It's not USPS's job to enforce Texas laws. When it comes to flower there is stuff called thca which is more dubiously legal but the jury is still out on if it is or is not federally legal but lots of companies out of state market it and ship to Texas.
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The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
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Yeah your right......and it's been bothering the chit outta me for the last 39 years, 11 months and 21 days. I don't know how I've survived. I guess I need to look those phookers up
so if this is not a lame attempt at being facetious, im to gather that you are a retired police that is in a 12 step program? because that would explain alot here
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Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.
I'm not an avid user or supporter of THC. I'm a supporter of individual freedom. It's 2025 and you still look at THC like it's 1950s. It's a non-issue to 99% of people under the age of 50, and lots of folks 50+ are coming around. You and Danny P are on the wrong side of the issue and wrong side of history and are completely consumed by what other people are doing behind closed doors. Take your L, bro.
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What you experienced is not the norm, not even close.

If you're open minded and like new experiences eat half a 5mg D9 gummy (very mild dose) from a reputable company and then:

Listen to some Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin - classic rock will start to make a lot more sense to you

Get laid (or equivalent)- heightens your sensory experience and allows you to concentrate intensely on what's going on. Changes your perspective on things in a way that make old things new again.

Eat Pizza and watch Family Guy or South Park - they'll never be better and you'll probably laugh your ass off.

Do this by yourself or with your SO at night at your residence.

It sounds like you had a bad experience from weed that was either laced or you took too large of a dose for a beginner. If a good THC buzz is something you've never experienced, then you're missing out on a great pleasure in life. You'll learn that it's nothing to be afraid of as long as you're not an idiot that's going to drive around or smoke pot all day every day.

It allows you to look at your life from a different perspective and can offer some great introspection. Psilocybin is even more intense in that regard. This is why veterans, victims, and people with substance abuse problems are having success treating their PTSD and addictions with non addictive psychoactive drugs all the way from microdosing mushrooms to ayahuasca. The latter of which has no recreational value and is strictly used for treatment.

These are very different than the deteriorous effects of drugs like alcohol, cocaine, meth, and opiates which are horrible for your health and result in poor judgment.
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Rattler12 said:

The System said:

Rattler12 is getting ratioed harder than a Dan Patrick tweet. The two have a lot in common.
Yeah but I guess I must be hitting some sore spots and close to home given all the adverse reaction I'm getting from all the avid supporters/users of THC products.


You are the one that doesn't care, yet has posted on this thread dozens and dozens of times. A sore spot has definitely been hit lol. The first thing you've been right about. Well, partially right.
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Rattler12 said:

Old Tom Morris said:

First thing I thought when I read that goofball story was it was laced with PCP. His "friends" screwed with him and 40 years later he still doesn't realize it. He inadvertently provided a wonderful example of why it should be legal, so that people can buy from reputable companies whose product is tested and they know exactly what they are consuming. No mystery ingredients. Clearly labeled content and potency.
Yeah your right......and it's been bothering the chit outta me for the last 39 years, 11 months and 21 days. I don't know how I've survived. I guess I need to look those phookers up


You sure seem to remember a lot of details and it was bad enough to impact your opinion and behavior for 40 years. So yeah, I'd say pretty bothered. And lol that you don't even know what you actually took.
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My Once Upon a Time pic was pretty spot on…
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dodger02 said:

My Once Upon a Time pic was pretty spot on…


Great movie!!
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aggieforester05 said:

What you experienced is not the norm, not even close.

If you're open minded and like new experiences eat half a 5mg D9 gummy (very mild dose) from a reputable company and then:

Listen to some Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin - classic rock will start to make a lot more sense to you

Get laid (or equivalent)- heightens your sensory experience and allows you to concentrate intensely on what's going on. Changes your perspective on things in a way that make old things new again.

Eat Pizza and watch Family Guy or South Park - they'll never be better and you'll probably laugh your ass off.

Do this by yourself or with your SO at night at your residence.

It sounds like you had a bad experience from weed that was either laced or you took too large of a dose for a beginner. If a good THC buzz is something you've never experienced, then you're missing out on a great pleasure in life. You'll learn that it's nothing to be afraid of as long as you're not an idiot that's going to drive around or smoke pot all day every day.

It allows you to look at your life from a different perspective and can offer some great introspection. Psilocybin is even more intense in that regard. This is why veterans, victims, and people with substance abuse problems are having success treating their PTSD and addictions with non addictive psychoactive drugs all the way from microdosing mushrooms to ayahuasca. The latter of which has no recreational value and is strictly used for treatment.

These are very different than the deteriorous effects of drugs like alcohol, cocaine, meth, and opiates which are horrible for your health and result in poor judgment.
I guess I must be an anomaly in todays world but I do most of the things you point out w/o the "aid" of anything. I'm 75 years old. I do not suffer from anxiety. I am not stressed. I don't worry. I go to bed at night looking forward to waking up to a new day and what it might bring. I laugh alot and can find humor in almost any situation. I get mad at myself when I screw something up and call myself a dumbchit but it lasts about a minute. I have the normal aches and pains of an "old" but it doesn't bother me enough to even take an advil. Our 4 kids are all grown and well settled with families. We have 4 dogs that are a joy to be around. I read alot. Watch movies, Love to cook. Love to tinker. Love to build "things". Have a group of other old men I hang with that I would trust with anything I have and I'm pretty sure they feel the same about me. We have no bills other than insurance, property taxes, utilities and food. Other than a bout of Afib in April of 24 which has been controlled by metoprolol, I am, according to my cardiologist "in pretty good shape"

I believe that on the day I was born there was an X marked on a calendar somewhere in the future and that will be the day I die no matter what I do in between. In the meantime I'm going to make the most of whatever time I have left, I'm kinda like the Clint Eastwood figure in the movie The Mule and the Toby Keith song that went along with it.....I refuse to let the old man in. My Dad was the same way and taught me that life was 2 % what you make it and 98% how you take it.
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If you don't like gummies we have dispensaries that make peanut butter cups and cake pops.

DO NOT EAT ALL AT ONCE
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Serious Lee said:

Rattler12 said:


Yeah your right......and it's been bothering the chit outta me for the last 39 years, 11 months and 21 days. I don't know how I've survived. I guess I need to look those phookers up
so if this is not a lame attempt at being facetious, im to gather that you are a retired police that is in a 12 step program? because that would explain alot here
And you would be wrong....again
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Old Tom Morris said:

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Old Tom Morris said:

First thing I thought when I read that goofball story was it was laced with PCP. His "friends" screwed with him and 40 years later he still doesn't realize it. He inadvertently provided a wonderful example of why it should be legal, so that people can buy from reputable companies whose product is tested and they know exactly what they are consuming. No mystery ingredients. Clearly labeled content and potency.
Yeah your right......and it's been bothering the chit outta me for the last 39 years, 11 months and 21 days. I don't know how I've survived. I guess I need to look those phookers up


You sure seem to remember a lot of details and it was bad enough to impact your opinion and behavior for 40 years. So yeah, I'd say pretty bothered. And lol that you don't even know what you actually took.
Good Lord .........I also remember the time I jumped off the roof of the old chicken house onto a nail sticking out of a board and it went clean through my foot and the time I touched a hot stove when told not to.......I never did either of those again either. Your talking nonsense. In the future you might want to think before you reply with another "gotcha"
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As has been mentioned countless times... For someone who supposedly cdoesn't care" you sure do a lot of talking about it. Are you just wanting the last word or something?
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Bunk Moreland said:

As has been mentioned countless times... For someone who supposedly cdoesn't care" you sure do a lot of talking about it. Are you just wanting the last word or something?


He's trolled the absolute hell out of this thread
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Philo B 93 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Rattler12 said:

Texaggie7nine said:

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the other time it's effects scared the crap out of me as I was totally out of it and physically helpless and couldn't have swatted a fly.
Did you take like 5 gummies at once? Smoke a bowl of hash?

I know many weed users and none have ever been rendered physically incapable from it. Perhaps combined with other drugs like alcohol, but not on it's own.
Nope ....a couple of hits off a bong.
I am in the "legalize it" - "weed is not that big a d eal" crowd, but I can see it if you hit the bong too hard...or took way too high of a dose of edibles. A few years out of college, living in Houston, me and some friends were about to be out the door to walk to a concert down the street. We had all been hitting the joint and having a few beers., then the last man arrived just before we left.

We peer pressured him into taking the biggest hit he could possibly take out of the 3 ft bong. He was not an experienced smoker at all. I have never seen so much smoke come out of someone's head...and I have never heard anyone cough like that. Within seconds you could tell his night would be absolutely ruined.

He could barely walk or keep his eyes open...we had to lock arms with him on each side and guide him slowly to the concert. He was in the spirit world for the rest of the night lol. I did not envy him. It was like walking an invalid around a nursing home...he still wasn't right hours later. But he was actually probably feeling the best the next morning because he didn't drink.
I've seen this happen to others, and I've been close myself. Your friend with limited experience probably didn't have a great time. But if this happens to someone who loves live music, and he is able pilot his brain back from Venus sometime during the concert, there are few feelings better than being at a good concert in that condition.


Ha agreed. Grab a cold 24 oz beer or vodka soda if you get too paranoid or feel like heart is about to beat out of your chest.

We say "Jimbo fisher - trust the process" if anyone OD's on THC at the ranch or on golf course. Keep calm, you'll be ok.
 
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