Yea I hope not either. I honestly think he was thrown off coming off of the bench behind Murray to start the season. I don't think that will happen again. Especially if we extend him in the same way we did Murray. For better or worse, White is our PG.

Alright fellas, it's prediction time! Call your shots before the craziness officially starts tomorrow.

I think LA to GSW for #2 happens and that we pick Deni Avdija.

Derozan and Patty also get traded (looking like Atlanta and Philly).

With pick #41 we go for a big man and take Paul Reed from DePaul.

I predict no trades. Spurs pick a swing man at 11.

While I have my fingers crossed that three-team trade works out I say the Spurs fail at moving up and draft Bey at #11.

We make a deal with Atlanta with DeMar for Reddish and two future 2nds. Patty to Philly for Richardson. We hold onto LMA until the trade deadline.

Daniel Oturu at 41.

In true Spurs fashion, nothing loud.

DP

Tp. Sorry I'm drunk.

Enzo The Baker said:

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While I have my fingers crossed that three-team trade works out I say the Spurs fail at moving up and draft Bey at #11.

We make a deal with Atlanta with DeMar for Reddish and two future 2nds. Patty to Philly for Richardson. We hold onto LMA until the trade deadline.

Daniel Oturu at 41.

In true Spurs fashion, nothing loud.

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As much as this could be seen as a disappointment, I would be ok with this. Trading away Patty is going to be the toughest for me, though. Practically, it's the right thing to do for the development of the young guys and the franchise, but watching him go from glorified cheerleader on the sidelines to being a team leader and bombing away threes on a championship team was awesome. To lose that last vestige of the beautiful game, is going to suck. DD and LMA were never always hired guns to me.

Yea as much as I gripe about Patty's contract/production, he represents Spurs culture and is a top class locker room guy. Wouldn't mind keeping him on and re-signing him to a budget deal after next season.

So here's my question, why would ATL do this ? They just drafted Reddish so why are they already wanting to move on from him and move back in the draft AND take on DDs opt in(which I assume he does)?

I get it from GSWs perspective. Another big that can help them go against AD, Bron and The Carushow. But I'm befuddled as to why Atlanta would.

To make the playoffs to keep Young happy.

Edit: Also, the huerter, reddish, and hunter are a little redundant. But I get what you're saying. In that three team structured deal, the incentive for the hawks is the hardest to figure out.

Right now the Hawks have an elite player in Trae Young and a great PF in John Collins. Hunter can play 3/4. Heuter is a good shooter.

Jeff Teague is probably leaving in FA.

So you move down 5 spots in a poor draft to get a guy that is capable of running the offense when Trae is on the bench and you have a third player that is going to get 20 points every night and has been top 5 in scoring in the league with 27ppg. Last year he put up 22/6/6 on 53% shooting as the number 1 option. That will keep teams from being able to just key in on Trae Young.

It is doubtful they get someone that good in the draft or in free agency.

C Capela
PF Collins
SF Hunter
SG DeRozan
PG Trae

Then at 11, get a guy like Opi Toppin that can backup Capela/Collins. Maybe Aaron Nesmith to add more shooting
Your 8-man rotation includes Heuter, Toppin, Dwayne Dedmon.

DeRozan also gives them veteran leadership that has a lot of playoff experience (60 playoff games played.) You need a guy with good experience, and DD has played for Nick Nurse and Gregg Popovich. Despite being forced off a team he didn't want to leave to a team he didn't want to go to, DD seemed to be a great professional the entire time. I think he would be a good guy to lead them forward.

I keep hearing how great the 2021 and 2022 drafts are supposed to be. I have no idea why the Spurs should burn any assets moving up for this one. I guess unless they are just offloading vets in an effort to tank.

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I keep hearing how great the 2021 and 2022 drafts are supposed to be. I have no idea why the Spurs should burn any assets moving up for this one. I guess unless they are just offloading vets in an effort to tank.

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I don't think the Spurs would be unloading any assets that aren't expiring. LMA is 35. I really don't want Derozan in this team's long term plans unless he's a third option to two other stars, which we don't have. Better to unload them now, get the best pick we can in this draft, swallow the pill and get a good pick for the next draft instead of hovering just below mediocrity with derozan.

Ag Natural said:

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I keep hearing how great the 2021 and 2022 drafts are supposed to be. I have no idea why the Spurs should burn any assets moving up for this one. I guess unless they are just offloading vets in an effort to tank.

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There's no guarantee they'd be able to turn their current assets into a better draft position for the next couple drafts. You gotta take advantage of what you can. That said, I imagine if they're seriously considering moving up as high as #2, there's a prospect they feel really good about. The last time the Spurs made a big move up the draft board was to pick Kawhi. Perhaps they've identified someone they think could be a centerpiece of the franchise and they believe it's worth moving to take.

Plus we have fiesta jerseys to get us through this down season.

According to Bobby Marks, DeMar's opt in deadline is tomorrow. Would be hard for him to pass up the 27.7MM. But I guess stranger things have happened. Hope he opts in for the Spurs sake. Unless he, his agent and San Antonio work out a S&T.

Ag Natural said:

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I keep hearing how great the 2021 and 2022 drafts are supposed to be. I have no idea why the Spurs should burn any assets moving up for this one. I guess unless they are just offloading vets in an effort to tank.

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Both players have 1 year left on their contracts. There is no better time to get assets for them than now.

No one is going to hit February and think "OH GOD, WE HAVE TO TRADE FOR 36-YO THEMARCUS TO WIN A TITLE!"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201113141832.htm


Scientists identify the gene critical to controlling the development of these spurs in the common columbine, or Aquilegia. They found it acts as a master regulator that appears to control the creation of the spurs by regulating the activity of other genes, the way a coach decides who plays and when.

When it came to naming a gene that could lead to new insights on a crucial feature of evolution, the Harvard Organismic and Evolutionary Biology alumna leading the project aimed for something rather tongue in cheek. She called it POPOVICH, after San Antonio Spurs coach and president Gregg Popovich.

Evangeline Ballerini, Ph.D. '10, an assistant professor of biological sciences at California State University, Sacramento, said she and her collaborators -- including Harvard's Elena Kramer -- settled on the name because the newly discovered gene calls the shots for floral nectar spurs the way Popovich does for his NBA team.

"I ended up choosing to name it after Gregg Popovich, in part, because the gene plays a regulatory role in spur development, kind of like a coach controls the development of their team," said Ballerini, who is a long-time Golden State Warriors fan and a part-time Celtics fan because of her time in the Boston area, but respects the Spurs and admires Popovich's leadership.

When Pop lets Tim Duncan draw up the plays

How possible do you think it is that Derozan opts out to restructure a longer term deal with the Spurs a la Dick Jefferson?

I think we are completely dismissing that possibility too, although I don't think the sides could come to an extension agreement earlier this year.

Enzo The Baker said:

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How possible do you think it is that Derozan opts out to restructure a longer term deal with the Spurs a la Dick Jefferson?

I think we are completely dismissing that possibility too, although I don't think the sides could come to an extension agreement earlier this year.

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I don't think he wants to be here for the rebuild and I don't think we want him here for the rebuild.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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How possible do you think it is that Derozan opts out to restructure a longer term deal with the Spurs a la Dick Jefferson?

I think we are completely dismissing that possibility too, although I don't think the sides could come to an extension agreement earlier this year.

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I don't think he wants to be here for the rebuild and I don't think we want him here for the rebuild.

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I hope that's the case.

Not likely. I dont think the rumors and verbiage coming out about him being unhappy or not wanting to be in SA would be so rampant if he was open to that possibility. I think he would have been a little more "i want to stay here, those rumors arent true", if he was at all motivated to get a deal done. i think the only way he opts out and signs a new deal is if its part of a S&T.

But a S&T limits where he can go.

About five teams can make room for him and I don't think he's the most valuable FA on the market.

S&T means he can't go to teams with luxury tax

Guitarsoup said:

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But a S&T limits where he can go.

About five teams can make room for him and I don't think he's the most valuable FA on the market.

S&T means he can't go to teams with luxury tax

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exactly, which is why i dont think he opts out. he isnt getting that type of money on the open market if he does, but he can go where he wants. try for a sign and trade, he loses money and limits where he can go...at least if he opts in, he doesnt limit himself nearly as much, and he still gets paid.

Enzo The Baker said:

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How possible do you think it is that Derozan opts out to restructure a longer term deal with the Spurs a la Dick Jefferson?

I think we are completely dismissing that possibility too, although I don't think the sides could come to an extension agreement earlier this year.

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I have no doubt that Spurs would prefer this. The issue is agreeing on a price. Last I heard they were far apart.

If he would accept the role, Derozan would be an excellent sixth man on a contender that the offense could run through similar to Ginobili and OKC Harden. I think that is what the Lakers are eyeing him as, and that he is at the point in his career where that role would best suit him. If he wanted to be THE guy on an average team he'd want to stay in SA. I'm not sure which contenders can afford his contract if he opts-in, but that is his market.

Like others have said, its probably mutually beneficial for the Spurs to offload Derozan so the younger guys can get more PT. The next few weeks are going to be interesting for sure, and I'm honestly pretty excited that it doesn't seem like SA is content to run it back next year.

Derozan is the only big name whose opt in is due today that still hasn't made a decision. I'm sure he, his agent and the spurs are hashing something out right now.

He opted in, per Shams

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He opted in, per Shams

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Get rid of him, he ain't that good

Goodie goodie. Let's see what we can do.

If Atlanta is truly considering it my only worry is our competition with jrue at NOLA. NOLA doesn't want to send him west and there has been some interest from ATL.

I would rather have Jrue, but I think DD is a better fit, since Jrue likes to work with the ball so much.

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I would rather have Jrue, but I think DD is a better fit, since Jrue likes to work with the ball so much.

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And hopefully NOLA would do Jrue right by sending him to a contender. With the Harden BK development, that's likely a big suitor off the board.