*** Official 2025 - 2026 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread ***

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In reply to AggieSportsGuy • 10:33p, 6/13/26
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AggieSportsGuy said:
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Spurs are young. They'll get there.
Inexperience, nerves are showing lategot them this time.
Happy for Brunson. The king of New York.


Never a guarantee to get back. Especially with this CBA.


True. They've got a promising young core. But they also still have to battle OKC. And hopefully a rising Mavs team in a couple of years.
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10:34p, 6/13/26
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10:35p, 6/13/26
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Brunson is a winner. In college. In NBA.
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10:36p, 6/13/26
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Absolutely love JB
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 10:36p, 6/13/26
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Spurs are "early" but man that is chokey asf

The wild thing is it was Fox that was the biggest choker on the team by far, but we brought him in to be the steady hand. NBA needs to revoke his Clutch Player of the Year award.

Meanwhile, Dylan Harper turned 20 in March and was the go to player tonight. 25-5-4 and no turnovers.
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10:43p, 6/13/26
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If I'm a Spurs fan I'm worried about the future. You were gifted a generational talent (again) who does not appear to have the clutch gene. You could argue he's their 3rd best option at the end of the game. I know they're young blah blah but that killer mentality is either you have it or you don't
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10:43p, 6/13/26
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Wemby getting traded to the Lakers for peanuts is gonna be crazy
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10:45p, 6/13/26
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Just one more time, cause it's a funny tweet.

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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 12:37a, 6/14/26
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Brunson wins his title. Good call Mark lol


Any blame of the Mavs organization for losing Brunson is extremely misplaced, IMO.

Mavs offered him 3 for 55 or something like that the year after he was completely unplayable in the playoffs against the Clippers. He declined that, but he also recently said that the Mavs never offered that. Based on all reporting, we know that is not true. That tells me he was always looking at going to NY to join his dad.

Everything at the time pointed to him wanting to go to NY to join his dad and everything that has come out since has only reinforced that.

There was nothing the Mavs could do to keep him other than offer him an extension he hadn't proved he was worth in the 21 offseason.
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In reply to Vessel • 12:47a, 6/14/26
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Vessel said:
Enrico Pallazzo said:
Brunson wins his title. Good call Mark lol


Any blame of the Mavs organization for losing Brunson is extremely misplaced, IMO.

Mavs offered him 3 for 55 or something like that the year after he was completely unplayable in the playoffs against the Clippers. He declined that, but he also recently said that the Mavs never offered that. Based on all reporting, we know that is not true. That tells me he was always looking at going to NY to join his dad.

Everything at the time pointed to him wanting to go to NY to join his dad and everything that has come out since has only reinforced that.

There was nothing the Mavs could do to keep him other than offer him an extension he hadn't proved he was worth in the 21 offseason.


They didn't offer an extension pre trade deadline because they wanted to shop him (something that couldn't happen had he signed). He publicly said he would have signed that extension if offered. Mavs were unable to find a good trade for him so they kept him. They offered him 4yr/$55m immediately after the trade deadline which he declined because he felt slighted and then in the off season after his blow up in the playoffs, Cuban verbally offered 5yr/$105m, which was another low ball offer. The Mavs should have maxed him (I said as much at the time) but they never aggressively negotiated against NY and pushed him out as much as he was pulled by Leon Rose.

All of that is nothing to say about the fact that Donnie failed to negotiate his rookie deal contract to make him a RFA.

Tl;dr - The Knicks pulled out every trick in the book, but the Mavs failed on multiple levels letting it get to that point and were never serious about keeping him.
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In reply to M.C. Swag • 12:49a, 6/14/26
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M.C. Swag said:
Vessel said:
Enrico Pallazzo said:
Brunson wins his title. Good call Mark lol


Any blame of the Mavs organization for losing Brunson is extremely misplaced, IMO.

Mavs offered him 3 for 55 or something like that the year after he was completely unplayable in the playoffs against the Clippers. He declined that, but he also recently said that the Mavs never offered that. Based on all reporting, we know that is not true. That tells me he was always looking at going to NY to join his dad.

Everything at the time pointed to him wanting to go to NY to join his dad and everything that has come out since has only reinforced that.

There was nothing the Mavs could do to keep him other than offer him an extension he hadn't proved he was worth in the 21 offseason.


They didn't offer an extension pre trade deadline because they wanted to shop him (something that couldn't happen had he signed). He publicly said he would have signed that extension if offered. Mavs were unable to find a good trade for him so they kept him. They offered him 4yr/$55m immediately after the trade deadline which he declined because he felt slighted and then in the off season after his blow up in the playoffs, Cuban verbally offered 5yr/$105m, which was another low ball offer. The Mavs should have maxed him (I said as much at the time) but they never aggressively negotiated against NY and pushed him out as much as he was pulled by Leon Rose.

All of that is nothing to say about the fact that Donnie failed to negotiate his rookie deal contract to make him a RFA.

Tl;dr - The Knicks pulled out every trick in the book, but the Mavs failed on multiple levels letting it get to that point and were never serious about keeping him.


This is 100% correct.
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In reply to mavsfan4ever • 1:12a, 6/14/26
Only if you believe everything coming out of the Brunson camp ex post facto.

If you believe all the public reporting, the rumors swirling during the '21 offseason, and your human intuition, then you know he was always going to NY.
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In reply to Vessel • 1:40a, 6/14/26
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The Mavs never deployed their biggest negotiating advantage (a 5yr max contract). That's a fact. And I have a hard time believing he turns that down given the NY offer. Either way the Mavs never attempted a real counter.
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2:20a, 6/14/26
Donnie Nelson was a great scout ( found dirk, luka, wanted to draft giannis) but a terrible GM. He couldn't convince a free agent to join the team if his life depended on it. The guy must have the personality of a Stump. Dirk's twilight years were wasted while the mavs kept their powder dry.

The end result ( like with luka trade) is all that matters. We got Brunson and watched him run our second team / bench unit with more efficiency than anyone did before or since and Cuban / Donnie showed no urgency in keeping him but they double down on the mistake by not getting anything for a future finals MVP? It's a joke.

The current spurs team is hard to like because most fans on this board could have built that team with all the draft luck the Spurs got. At least their old team was built thru smarts and out thinking the league ( parker and ginobli were 2nd round picks I think). I also didn't like how the Spurs poached sweeney from us. I'm glad he joined the magic at least.

The spurs have 3 stars under the age of 22. They will definitely be back. Thankfully they already gave Fox a max deal tho!

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In reply to M.C. Swag • 6:35a, 6/14/26
NY's offer was they were a franchise that didn't have Luka Doncic.

Mavs could not counter that with any monetary number.
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In reply to Vessel • 7:10a, 6/14/26
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Vessel said:
NY's offer was they were a franchise that didn't have Luka Doncic.

Mavs could not counter that with any monetary number.


I still believe Brunson is getting money/benefits under the table like Kawhi. He left $114 Million on the table when he signed his new deal. Leave some on the table to play where you want? Sure. Leave a hundred million? No. Plus everything with his creepy dad.
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In reply to Vessel • 7:13a, 6/14/26
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NY's offer was they were a franchise that didn't have Luka Doncic.

Mavs could not counter that with any monetary number.


My point is the mavs never tried. They didn't make him say "no" to the best offer they could have made. That's unacceptable.



Cuban said "we can pay him the most" and then proceeded to offer less. Thats unacceptable.
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In reply to M.C. Swag • 7:44a, 6/14/26
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NY's offer was they were a franchise that didn't have Luka Doncic.

Mavs could not counter that with any monetary number.


My point is the mavs never tried. They didn't make him say "no" to the best offer they could have made. That's unacceptable.



Cuban said "we can pay him the most" and then proceeded to offer less. Thats unacceptable.



Definitely is a bunch of brutal decision making in hindsight.

- lost steve nash for nothing to phoenix

- lost brunson for mothing to ny

- traded luka to LA for pennies on the dollar, hardly any draft compensation to rebuild, and brought back a guy who got injured 20 different times while he was here a year and a half.


- Let tyson chandler and jason kidd leave for nothing after winning a championship.

- traded and wasted countless draft picks for bad returns in the donnie / cuban era

- pretty much never took the draft seriously despite getting franchise cornerstones dirk and luka thru the draft

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8:18a, 6/14/26
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Mavs are a joke of a franchise. Always were and have been and one championship and an awesome generational German player are all that has shielded that.

Pains me as the Nash/Dirk and the 2011 run was one of my best sports memories of all time but let's face it. This franchise is a joke and has seemingly only gotten worse every year. Just keeps finding ways to step on its dick, over and over.
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8:46a, 6/14/26
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How the hell did the Spurs losing become absolutely dunking on the Mavs for the last 25 years lol? Hindsight is 20/20. The only horrific decision was to trade Luka for a half eaten sandwich. The other stuff had legitimately good reasons for or to explain. Let's draft.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 8:53a, 6/14/26
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How the hell did the Spurs losing become absolutely dunking on the Mavs for the last 25 years lol? Hindsight is 20/20. The only horrific decision was to trade Luka for a half eaten sandwich. The other stuff had legitimately good reasons for or to explain. Let's draft.



I think it's the realization that " the big" offseason is finally here. The mavs don't control their draft picks for what the next 5 years after this?

It's important that they make a good team that can compete or at least comfortably make the playoffs because we don't want to be giving teams lottery picks.
Mavs need a good offseason.
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In reply to Grapesoda2525 • 9:01a, 6/14/26
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Mavs don't control 27-30. They control from 31-forever. 28 and 30 are swaps, 27 and 29 are traded away (with Lakers pick coming back in 29.)

The 2030 swap to the Spurs is slightly different than some swaps because the Spurs also have swapped that pick with the Wolves. If the Wolves are worse than the Mavs, then the Mavs get their pick back and the Spurs swap with the Wolves. I think Ant will force his way out by then.
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9:26a, 6/14/26
Carlisle didn't do them any favors in how he mishandled Brunson in the playoffs the season before. I think that handling made them cautious on the extension, It was basically a 3way cluster**** that let him get away. They absolutely could have signed him.
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In reply to M.C. Swag • 9:36a, 6/14/26
"The Knicks deal was done and everyone knew that."

What else really has to be said after that? It's just wailing and gnashing of teeth over a lie Cuban told.

JB always wanted to have his own team and that team was always the Knicks with Rick there. It was probably done in '21, if not earlier. There wasn't anything we could do.
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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 9:37a, 6/14/26
How did Carlisle mishandle him? The Clippers played Brunson off the floor.
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12:45p, 6/14/26
Brunson should have initially been given a contract that made him an RFA in the first place. If not, the Mavs should have offered him the same 4/55 extension that DFS got. He had earned that number before the trade deadline. I think Brunson is still here in both cases. I don't think the 5 year max would have kept him once it hit the offseason, it was too late at that point. Losing talent for nothing is just a blunder that can't happen in this league. It was a big gamble for the Knicks (also gambling picks on Bridges, Hart, and KAT) but wow did that pay off.

It was fun to watch this series. I thought the officials were fine. I would 100% rather watch physical basketball with fewer free throws, tougher shot making, and fewer points than whatever the regular season has become. All of the simulation, flopping, and falling down has just made the game borderline unwatchable during the regular season. The Spurs getting Harper in the lottery right after Wemby is insane luck. Even if Wemby becomes the best player in the league, you still need other great players and Harper is definitely a future All-NBA guy.

We'll see how it plays out, but Flagg is obviously going to need help. The big concern after giving Luka away for nothing was lack of assets and control. Mavs really needed that second bit of luck in this draft lottery and didn't get it. The other takeaway was the required level of physicality and positional size you need. Especially considering how the officiating allows it in the playoffs and Finals. I know some people have these tiers of players and really want guys like Acuff, but if a guy doesn't have positional size or use their physicality, can they be impactful in a series like this? Something I'm sure Masai has to consider, that's got to be a tough thing to project.
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1:01p, 6/14/26
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People are overthinking this. Brunson simply wasn't the player yet in Dallas that he became in New York. He's just a substantially better player now. When he signed with the Knicks he was not worth the hat they paid him which is why literally every franchise in the league laughed at them at the time.

The fact is they struck gold and got very lucky. Brunson is incredibly unique in terms of his athletic and size metrics vs production and efficiency. It was not foreseeable that he would become a superstar as the league dog on a title team.
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In reply to jeffdjohnson • 1:05p, 6/14/26
A lot of the help will hopefully come in Lively being healthy. He's one of the 6-7 most impactful centers in the league when he plays. Gotta figure out how to keep him on the court.

Really excited to see how the next 9 days play out. I think we have some trades up our sleeves and the draft looks more uncertain every day with the intel we are getting.

I'm confident we'll leave the draft with a strong rotational piece at minimum, and that we'll be ready to challenge for top 6 immediately.
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In reply to Vessel • 3:49p, 6/14/26
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"The Knicks deal was done and everyone knew that."

What else really has to be said after that? It's just wailing and gnashing of teeth over a lie Cuban told.

JB always wanted to have his own team and that team was always the Knicks with Rick there. It was probably done in '21, if not earlier. There wasn't anything we could do.


You're quoting Kirk (who is speculating) and the rest of his post is agreeing precisely with my point. The Mavs failed to attempt a serious counter. Idk why you want to absolve the FO of this when it's so blatantly obvious they messed up the front end (allowing him to enter UFA) and back end (offering the max).
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 3:51p, 6/14/26
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People are overthinking this. Brunson simply wasn't the player yet in Dallas that he became in New York. He's just a substantially better player now. When he signed with the Knicks he was not worth the hat they paid him which is why literally every franchise in the league laughed at them at the time.

The fact is they struck gold and got very lucky. Brunson is incredibly unique in terms of his athletic and size metrics vs production and efficiency. It was not foreseeable that he would become a superstar as the league dog on a title team.


Many people believed he was a max contract player (especially to the Mavs who were in obvious need of a secondary playmaker/scorer if they let JB walk).
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In reply to M.C. Swag • 5:46p, 6/14/26
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I recall that is near the time I hit ignore on IA. He kept saying Brunson wasn't worth it, maybe even called him a volume guy with short arms and would be a constant defensive liability? Lmao. Never mind the fact that the Mavs couldn't get a reliable #2 weapon in free agency to save their life around then.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 6:39p, 6/14/26
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People are overthinking this. Brunson simply wasn't the player yet in Dallas that he became in New York. He's just a substantially better player now. When he signed with the Knicks he was not worth the hat they paid him which is why literally every franchise in the league laughed at them at the time.

The fact is they struck gold and got very lucky. Brunson is incredibly unique in terms of his athletic and size metrics vs production and efficiency. It was not foreseeable that he would become a superstar as the league dog on a title team.


This just isn't true. See the playoff series where he dominated without Luka. Mavs screwed up and didn't use him right and didn't offer him what they should have multiple times. Not sure how it's possible the mavs didn't see what they had, but they didn't.

He was great (not as good as he is now but still great) immediately when he went NY and it was clear his contract was a steal. They don't overpay at all. Do you think he magically just got better in that one offseason? He was just that good.
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In reply to mavsfan4ever • 6:51p, 6/14/26
Back to my Carlisle knock. I think he was very painful to please as a young G. Brunson really started to blossom more under Kidd in year 4, but at that point the Knicks are becoming a bigger threat. Nip that in the bud with a proper offer in the summer 2021 or early 21-22, I have no doubt he signs it. I think Carlisle played a big part in them not realizing what they had until it was too late. The Clippers were a tough matchup for him, but I also think Carlisle wasn't inclined to use him in the best way. Magically he goes to being pretty damn nails in the playoffs the very next season and ever since. And it wasn't like he was a kid on those Carlisle teams. He was 24

I'll also never buy that Brunson couldn't have thrived with Luka and needed to get out from that shadow. You need at least 2 on-ball creators.
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