TX Legislature will ban THC stores before they leave says Lt Gov Patrick

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Lathspell said:

May be a bannable thing to say, but I am so ready for the Boomers to just die off and leave us the **** alone. I'm so tired of this *****

Never voted for a Democrat in my life, but I will vote for anyone other than Dan Patrick in the future, no matter what letter is next to the person's name. I would prefer it be an "L" or "I", as opposed to a "D", but I'm fed up with that authoritarian *****. If Wheels doesn't veto, I will also vote for anyone but him. I'll even vote for that Beta ***** over Wheels.



Same bro, 100%
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DannyDuberstein said:

Make your voice heard

https://gov.texas.gov/contact


I did and let them have it.
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Slicer97 said:

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Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I hope so, but I'll believe it when I see it. Abbott has never struck me as a leader.


The Florida legislature needs to pass a similar ban so DeSantis can show Abbott how to veto freedom-revoking bills. Without DeSantis showing him the way, I have zero faith in Abbott
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Exactly.
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I think they did, and Desantis vetoed it. He should have his example of leadership to follow as always.
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Credible Source said:

I think they did, and Desantis vetoed it. He should have his example of leadership to follow as always.


Yup
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Rattler12 said:

Lathspell said:

May be a bannable thing to say, but I am so ready for the Boomers to just die off and leave us the **** alone. I'm so tired of this *****

Never voted for a Democrat in my life, but I will vote for anyone other than Dan Patrick in the future, no matter what letter is next to the person's name. I would prefer it be an "L" or "I", as opposed to a "D", but I'm fed up with that authoritarian *****. If Wheels doesn't veto, I will also vote for anyone but him. I'll even vote for that Beta ***** over Wheels.
That sounds like a sound strategy.

"That sumbitz in office now cut off my finger so I'm gonna vote for the sumbitz that wants to cut off my arm instead."
Don't care, at this point. They're all corrupt and there are only a handful with actual principles they stick to. Also, the legislature will stay predominately Republican, so that check should keep the Governor or Lt Governor from breaking too much, if they are Dems.

This is a stupid fight and is simply highlighting how much big pharma and alcohol own these politicians. I want nothing but the worst for people like that. Patrick is pond-scum. He's a leach who is simply looking to enrich himself while claiming he's looking out for the kids. **** him. I'd vote for anyone other than him. I'll suffer through a few years of anyone else to get that ***** out of politics.
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Lathspell said:

Rattler12 said:

Lathspell said:

May be a bannable thing to say, but I am so ready for the Boomers to just die off and leave us the **** alone. I'm so tired of this *****

Never voted for a Democrat in my life, but I will vote for anyone other than Dan Patrick in the future, no matter what letter is next to the person's name. I would prefer it be an "L" or "I", as opposed to a "D", but I'm fed up with that authoritarian *****. If Wheels doesn't veto, I will also vote for anyone but him. I'll even vote for that Beta ***** over Wheels.
That sounds like a sound strategy.

"That sumbitz in office now cut off my finger so I'm gonna vote for the sumbitz that wants to cut off my arm instead."
Don't care, at this point. They're all corrupt and there are only a handful with actual principles they stick to. Also, the legislature will stay predominately Republican, so that check should keep the Governor or Lt Governor from breaking too much, if they are Dems.

This is a stupid fight and is simply highlighting how much big pharma and alcohol own these politicians. I want nothing but the worst for people like that. Patrick is pond-scum. He's a leach who is simply looking to enrich himself while claiming he's looking out for the kids. **** him. I'd vote for anyone other than him. I'll suffer through a few years of anyone else to get that ***** out of politics.
It's not just big pharma and alcohol. They are all bought and paid for by some special interest. I'm just glad that people are finally waking up to it
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The Texas govt is a clusterF right now. Lots of RINO idiocy using procedural bullsh to derail logical law and policy, mixed in with some old school conservative nonsense led by Dan Patrick that wants to pretend we still live in the 1950s.
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DannyDuberstein said:

I'm 51, have paid in more than you can fantasize about, and would be fine if I never saw a single dime if they killed it today. That pyramid scheme needs to be taken behind the barn and old yeller'd


Isn't there an annual max? "Paid in more than you can fantasize about" is funny to me when it's a capped value.
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That said, **** the big government Republicans and evangelicals/theocrats
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Social Security is at $176k( Medicare is not and high income earners also pay another 0.9% (which is basically a 60% bump). But I've been at the max on the former for a few decades and pay the high earner bump. Cap or not, willing to bet I've paid far more than Rattler12
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DannyDuberstein said:

Social Security is at $176k( Medicare is not and high income earners also pay another 0.9% (which is basically a 60% bump). But I've been at the max on the former for a few decades and pay the high earner bump. Cap or not, willing to bet I've paid far more than Rattler12
Ok lets compare your wages today to what they would have been 40 years ago for the very same job you're in now.....
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Rattler12 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Social Security is at $176k( Medicare is not and high income earners also pay another 0.9% (which is basically a 60% bump). But I've been at the max on the former for a few decades and pay the high earner bump. Cap or not, willing to bet I've paid far more than Rattler12
Ok lets compare your wages today to what they would have been 40 years ago for the very same job you're in now.....
You have to compare a lot more than that, cost of living and other taxes for starters.
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samurai_science said:

Rattler12 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Social Security is at $176k( Medicare is not and high income earners also pay another 0.9% (which is basically a 60% bump). But I've been at the max on the former for a few decades and pay the high earner bump. Cap or not, willing to bet I've paid far more than Rattler12
Ok lets compare your wages today to what they would have been 40 years ago for the very same job you're in now.....
You have to compare a lot more than that, cost of living and other taxes for starters.
Those have nothing to do with the percentage of income withheld from earnings for SS and medicare. If a person was making 100K in 1990 and the same job pays 250K in 2025 the same % is/was withheld from each paycheck.
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Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action
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AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.
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Charpie said:

AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.


Hope you're right!
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Charpie said:

AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.


He should be, Patrick came off as such a childish pissy little ***** during that press conference. He's also risking the jobs of 50K people, bankrupting business owners with large investments, extinguishing billions in tax revenue, striping liberty from Texans, and empowering criminal enterprises.

This is monumentaly stupid policy. A regulatory scheme would have been much better politics.
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If he does disagree with diddle dan, I'm sure Abbott would prefer not to risk pissing off the bible thumpers by dealing with this at all. But this is an opportunity to prove that he's a practical, freedom-embracing, pro-business leader if he vetos and then effectively communicates why he vetoed it. If he ever has any national aspirations, it could actually be an asset for him.
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DannyDuberstein said:

If he does disagree with diddle dan, I'm sure Abbott would prefer not to risk pissing off the bible thumpers by dealing with this at all. But this is an opportunity to prove that he's a practical, freedom-embracing, pro-business leader if he vetos and then effectively communicates why he vetoed it. If he ever has any national aspirations, it could actually be an asset for him.


IF Abbott vetoes it then I expect a mandate for a bill establishing stricter regulation of publicly available THC products or a significant expansion and simplification of medically Rx'd THC products next session. Maybe both.

That would allow for him to make an intelligent argument across his voter base for both tighter controls to "protect the children" while at the same time benefiting Texans who use THC products medicinally. This thwarts Dannie, while at the same time addressing his "for the children" rationale and prevents him from circling back to revisit it later thereby closing the door on any NIMBYist wasting further time on the matter in successive legislative sessions.

I think we will probably see some restrictions on existing THC products to battle perceived recreational use but it will be offset by the ability to get it for a much broader range of medical reasons (insomnia, general pain, migraines, etc.).
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Standards are fine as long as it's in a manner we'd expect to see applied to food or alcohol manufacturers. There are some very responsible producers out there. From the outset, this should have been a partnership with those businesses to understand the best way to keep these products consistent and safe.

Accessibility by consumers does not need to be further restricted in any way though. Should remain in line with alcohol. Adults should be allowed to make adult decisions. We have no business even asking why they want it. You're old enough, that decision is yours to make
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Agreed. But so many republicans are still terrified of touching anything THC related due to a combination of some of the remaining hard core JUST SAY NO elements of the base, and the lobbying $$$ they stand to lose from booze and pharma. So instead of doing it intelligently, they beat around the bush and bumble **** their way through so as to do something while retaining a degree of plausible deniability. And Dannie couldn't leave well enough alone and effed that up for them.
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Charpie said:

AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.


Hope so but won't expect it to happen
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Charpie said:

AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.


I choose to believe this
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I've seen drive thru weed shops in Alaska. Every town here has 3 or 4 it seems.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Oh man, Alaska must have grown ups dropping dead everywhere.
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Charpie said:

AgsMyDude said:

Charpie said:

Abbott is gonna veto. He doesn't have a choice. Patrick overplayed his hand and pursued something that he should have researched rather than appease the pearl clutchers. Let's hope this will be the end of Patrick.


I would be shocked if he did anything other than ignore the bill and let it become law with no action


Be prepared to be shocked then. It's the word around the capital right now. Abbott is super pissed at Patrick over this.

I hope so but Abbott rarely does anything good so I'm not holding my breath.
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Credible Source said:

Oh man, Alaska must have grown ups dropping dead everywhere.



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Credible Source said:

Oh man, Alaska must have grown ups dropping dead everywhere.


They do, but I'd say it has way more to do with the rampant alcoholism, dark cold climate, and lack of job opportunities.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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BenFiasco14 said:

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Oh man, Alaska must have grown ups dropping dead everywhere.


They do, but I'd say it has way more to do with the rampant alcoholism, dark cold climate, and lack of job opportunities.
They have a moron for a Senator though
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BrazosDog02 said:

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Yup. I hate our State government so bad. I wish the boomers would step aside and gen X run the show
This is generally good advice everywhere. Office dynamics often improved after layoffs where boomers were....uh.....'offered early retirement'. The same needs to happen with politics. More young voters need to stop voting for their party and start voting for people that do what's right. I was that guy. If you were Republican, you got my vote. Not any more. I vote for those that look like they are going to do the best job. If that's libertarian or democrat....so be it. I don't care if it's a 'wasted' vote. I don't care if it's a 'vote for the other guy'. If you don't like it, then get out there and offset it.
This.

I've long advocated that any and all party affiliation cannot be included with any candidate running for office. That would force voters to actually listen to what the candidate is campaigning on.

Sure, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to figure things out in other means. But by in large, the voting populace is lazy and stupid and most wouldn't spend the time trying to find intricate details out.
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Rattler12 said:

Rapier108 said:

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Yup. I hate our State government so bad. I wish the boomers would step aside and gen X run the show
Then more GenX needs to run for office.
They're too busy bitzin about boomers on message boards....where would they find the time?
Most of us are too busy working to pay the stupid amount of taxes that we get nailed with and put a lot more value on raising kids and living our personal lives than jumping into the sht filled cesspool that is politics. Because crazy ass lefties just aren't worth the trouble, especially for what Texas politicians generally get paid.

If I wasn't taxed to freaking death and didn't have to worry about some sorry ass lefty nutjob stalking my kids because they hate the idea of less govern me harder daddy, I might think about it.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Make your voice heard

https://gov.texas.gov/contact


I did and let them have it.
Same. Though I didn't say it exactly how I would prefer to say it.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B887ujTpc/

Boxes of letters being delivered to Abbot demanding a veto.
 
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