2012-13 San Antonio Spurs thread

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Nice to see Cleveland spending some money.

Only a few big time contracts out there (Pekovic, Bynum, Ellis)

After that it's coming down to Hickson, Kirilenko, Brewer, Mo Williams.

Not many landing spots left for AK. Pretty quiet on that front also.
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Dallas spending more money. Good, good.
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2 year $4 mil for Pendergraph.
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are we getting ak47 or is he heading to amsterdam?
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AK47 or any other significant FA is out of the question now.

Looks like the Spurs split the MLE between Belinelli and Pendergraph.

Off-season likely over. Maybe a vet min signing or a trade in the future.


Spurs stand pat which I ultimately expected. Still pretty disappointing but I get it.
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Got an AK-47 update this afternoon via email: #Twolves are involved in sign-&-trade scenarios. Told activity has picked up a fair amount.
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Watch OKC land him for Martin.
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So it is wait until next year, next year again...
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7 teams remain that have more than the MLE to offer: Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Orlando, Philadelphia and Sacramento.

Word is that Kirilenko's camp is pushing a S&T. The Spurs could technically still acquire him this way but it's not likely at all.



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As of right now the Spurs have 1 roster spot open and if they are looking at backup SF prospects who can be had for the minimum here is a short list:

Wesley Johnson
Mickael Gelabale
Xavier Henry
Terrence Williams
Luke Babbitt
James Anderson (if waived by Houston)
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Wouldn't surprise me if James Anderson made another tour of duty.
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I wouldn't mind that.
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Now that the player formerly known as Ron Artest has been officially amnestied, if we could get him for the vet minimum, I'd be all for SA picking him up. He's crazy, but he'd be a great back up for Kawhi and small ball 4. Plus, it's another guy that can guard Lebron.
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If the Spurs have a sit down with him and he's cool with a pretty limited role than I would be good with him also.

He's a good option at small ball 4 versus teams that like to play that way and he's still a good defender/rebounder. He can hit an open three also.

Once again, just comes down to him being able to accept a smaller role. It seems like he has a lot of respect for the Spurs though.
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Maybe we can sign T-mac again next march
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Small ball with Duncan/Artest/Kawhi/Green/Parker is still pretty big. What about going big with Splitter/Duncan/Artest/Kawi/Ginobili.
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Bucks are 1 of 4 teams in mix for Gary Neal.
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League source says Neal is likely to re-sign with SA. I don't see how this could be possible.
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Maybe he takes the QO and then tries again next year after playing good in more than one of every 7 games.
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If it does it means a trade is sure to happen.

tbh I would like to see it happen now that the Spurs are pretty much done with free agent signings (unless we somehow can still get ak) Neal doesn't effect that last part though.

Manu could easily continue his rapid decline and miss a big chunk of next season. I would rather have Neal on the roster than Mills + De Colo.
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Resigning Neal makes no sense unless we're doing a sign and trade. That would give us 4 SGs plus Decolo and Mills that are hybrid 1-2s.
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Don't know if the money works, but at one point the Spurs were interested in Mbah Moute from Milwaukee, who is probably expendable with the Josh Smith signing.
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Resigning Neal makes no sense unless we're doing a sign and trade.


Always keep cheap assets.
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If the Spurs can't get a decent backup SF (and all indications are they will not do that this offseason), then re-signing Neal makes perfect sense. You can't roll out Manu (who likely misses 30 games), Belinelli (who likely misses 15-20 games), De Colo, Joseph, and Mills as your only options behind Parker, Green, and Leonard.

The only way the Spurs could really afford to let Neal go and not suffer is if either of the following were to happen:

A) Manu heals through some holy water miracle and has an all-star caliber year.

B) One of Belinelli, Joseph, De Colo, or Mills turns into an absolute baller (compared to their careers so far) off the dribble.

Say what you will about Gary Neal. He is streaky. His defense is shaky even when he's on fire. But he's one of the only guys on the team other than Parker and occasionally Manu who can create his own shot off the dribble. If Gary can learn how to become a better passer he's going to be a really good role player.
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Don't know if the money works, but at one point the Spurs were interested in Mbah Moute from Milwaukee, who is probably expendable with the Josh Smith signing.



Solid idea but he just got traded to Sacramento. Would have been a nice fit.
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Spurs are still connected to Gary Neal and Anthony Morrow. It seems like they are good with the wing position and plan on playing Manu and Belinelli there some to spot Kawhi. A lot of three guard lineups I suppose.

Kawhi should play a lot next year after he gets his knee right this Summer so there isn't a ton of minutes to be had at the three position anyway.

Not sure what the Spurs are thinking but I assume they are planning on moving one or two of their guards if they resign Neal or sign Morrow.
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Spurs Summer League Team:


Aron Baynes C 6-10 260 12/09/86 Washington State/Australia
Tyler Brown G 6-4 185 03/21/90 Illinois State/USA
Nando De Colo G 6-5 190 06/23/87 Valencia/France
Marcus Denmon G 6-3 185 03/20/90 Missouri/USA
Cory Joseph G 6-3 185 08/20/91 Texas/Canada
Amath M’Baye F 6-9 208 12/14/89 Oklahoma/France
James Mays F 6-9 230 03/03/86 Clemson/USA
Dexter Pittman C 6-11 285 03/02/88 Texas/USA
Ryan Richards F 6-11 230 04/21/91 England
Durand Scott G 6-5 203 02/22/90 Miami/USA
Deshaun Thomas F 6-7 225 08/28/91 Ohio State/USA
Hollis Thompson F 6-8 212 04/03/91 Georgetown/USA
Alexis Wangmene F/C 6-7 241 03/01/89 Texas/Cameroon
Chris Wright G 6-1 210 11/04/89 Georgetown/USA

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Spurs Summer League Team:


Aron Baynes C 6-10 260 12/09/86 Washington State/Australia
Tyler Brown G 6-4 185 03/21/90 Illinois State/USA
Nando De Colo G 6-5 190 06/23/87 Valencia/France
Marcus Denmon G 6-3 185 03/20/90 Missouri/USA
Cory Joseph G 6-3 185 08/20/91 Texas/Canada
Amath M’Baye F 6-9 208 12/14/89 Oklahoma/France
James Mays F 6-9 230 03/03/86 Clemson/USA
Dexter Pittman C 6-11 285 03/02/88 Texas/USA
Ryan Richards F 6-11 230 04/21/91 England
Durand Scott G 6-5 203 02/22/90 Miami/USA
Deshaun Thomas F 6-7 225 08/28/91 Ohio State/USA
Hollis Thompson F 6-8 212 04/03/91 Georgetown/USA
Alexis Wangmene F/C 6-7 241 03/01/89 Texas/Cameroon
Chris Wright G 6-1 210 11/04/89 Georgetown/USA

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I'm really looking forward to watching CoJo, Nando, and Baynes. I suspect Nando and CoJo will start next to eachother, making Nando the 2 guard, but it'll be interesting to see how much they let Nando run point. Thomas and Thompson are the only guys to look for as surprises to make the roster, given that there's only Kawhi at their position. We have 6 bigs and 6 or 7 guards (depending on Neal), so the SFs are the only guys to watch for.
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Also of note, Ime Udoka will be coaching the summer league team.
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Always keep cheap assets.


This certainly makes sense. Maybe with our combination of cheap players and expiring contracts, we could be looking to make a midseason deal.
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If the Spurs can't get a decent backup SF (and all indications are they will not do that this offseason), then re-signing Neal makes perfect sense. You can't roll out Manu (who likely misses 30 games), Belinelli (who likely misses 15-20 games), De Colo, Joseph, and Mills as your only options behind Parker, Green, and Leonard.

The only way the Spurs could really afford to let Neal go and not suffer is if either of the following were to happen:

A) Manu heals through some holy water miracle and has an all-star caliber year.

B) One of Belinelli, Joseph, De Colo, or Mills turns into an absolute baller (compared to their careers so far) off the dribble.

Say what you will about Gary Neal. He is streaky. His defense is shaky even when he's on fire. But he's one of the only guys on the team other than Parker and occasionally Manu who can create his own shot off the dribble. If Gary can learn how to become a better passer he's going to be a really good role player.


I expect a lot of 3 guard lineups and I know that Ginobili likely won't be healthy the whole season, but I still don't see where Neal's minutes come from. Bellineli isn't prime Manu, but he's more than capable of running the offense if needed (he did so for the Bulls). CoJo will likely get more of a chance to really be a point guard. Parker and Green will get the bulk of the minutes, CoJo probably gets most of the minutes when Parker isn't in, and that leaves Bellineli, Manu, Nando, and Neal that will all split minutes behind Green and to an extent Kawhi.

Also, Neal is one of the worst defenders in the NBA. Calling his D shaky is generous.

All of this ranting; I like Neal. He's a hard worker and gives you some good production for a guy that wasn't drafted.
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Here's one a little easier on the eyes.


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Obviously the ones to watch are Nando, Cory and Baynes.

Also very interested to see how Richards does against this competition. He isn't ready to come over yet but this will be a good measuring stick for him.

DeShaun Thomas as well also it's pretty much a given he will be sent to Europe this year to play.
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