Protests Erupt across Iran

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Sure. I guess if the check clears Putin will take them.

Personally I would not trust Putin but Assad seems to have made it a year or so.

Just saying Russian doesnt feel like the safe landing many assume but that's more of a gut feeling.

Again, I support extermination not exile. Any solution is drought with issues, except them finding paradise unnaturally early.
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flown-the-coop said:

I could see Trump letting the very top ayatollahs have a more comfortable exile.

Is Russia known to house exiles? I honestly dont know, haven't looked into it.

Of course the more they explode the heads of protestors via snipers then not sure hardly anyone will take them.

They took in Assad from Syria and his family. But he was a pretty close ally of theirs. I am not sure how tight the Russians really are with the mullahs other than some military equipment deals/swaps.

On one hand it is better for our relationship and perception in the rest of the world (that I care relatively little about) for the mullahs to leave on their own or be killed by their own people rather than being assassinated by us. That also saves us from having to deal with how the Saudis and Qataris react to us launching a strike without their support. But on the other hand, it is better if the mullahs are just dead so they can't come back later and foment another revolution.
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Queso1 said:

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Is the Eritrean regime responsible for destabilizing an entire region of the world?

92 beat me to it


Didn't our war with Iraq destabilize the entire region?

No, this region has been at war within itself for 4,000 years.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Yes, from Chechens to Assad, Putin has been willing to house various militants for a price. Not the best source, but take it for what it is;

Putting the Mullahs on an 'island' la Napoleon would make some sense, if it can be facilitated imho. And yes, I am aware of his return etc.
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St. Helena it is then, perhaps their doctors could have some arsenic lying around.
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BQ78 said:

St. Helena it is then, perhaps their doctors could have some arsenic lying around.

Would be better to use Mt St. Helens...but only when it is active.
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Turkmenistan has the warm and vibrant Darvasa gas crater. Or maybe a cliffside compound at the Russian Mir mine.
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Trump needs to release a statement:

The only negotiating I will do from now on with the current Iranian regime will be for their surrender. Hurry up, or I'll help the process along with our big beautiful military.
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flown-the-coop said:

Turkmenistan has the warm and vibrant Darvasa gas crater. Or maybe a cliffside compound at the Russian Mir mine.

Russia has one of those in Siberia that could help them feel like a nice warm summer day back home in Iran.
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Feels like 1979 up in here, except not led by dumb ass students
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May have to watch Argo again tonight.
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flown-the-coop said:

May have to watch Argo again tonight.


Watch Tehran on Apple TV +. Israeli made show about Mossad agents undercover in Modern Iran.
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I am all caught up. Waiting on tomorrow.

So Argo f urself.
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Just started Tehran and really enjoying it so far.
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US sending even more force to the ME.

"Meanwhile, Secretary of State Marco Rubio testified before the Senate that U.S. forces are needed in case of a potential attack from Iran and that the administration does not know what will happen next if the government of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei falls."

BUILDUP
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BQAg09 said:

Just started Tehran and really enjoying it so far.


First episode is fun with the airplane stock footage. Wide body landing gear, narrow body interior scenes, CGI business jet in the air, then when they're in "Tehran" you see a Southwest jet lining up to take off
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GAC06 said:

BQAg09 said:

Just started Tehran and really enjoying it so far.


First episode is fun with the airplane stock footage. Wide body landing gear, narrow body interior scenes, CGI business jet in the air, then when they're in "Tehran" you see a Southwest jet lining up to take off

Probably there to film a "wanna get away" commercial with the mullahs
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First season was done very low budget of if I am not mistaken. Glen Close shows up in Season 2.

I did notice the SWA planes were using reverse thrusters to pull back from the gate, which I thought was unusual.
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You must have been high
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Good, no more off-ramps.
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Moron is in Spain, fwiw, not a reference to AOC/Swalwell etc.
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nortex97 said:


Good, no more off-ramps.



The text of the Tweet, with some important details. Seems like it's almost go time.

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Trump is considering new U.S. airstrikes on Iran after quiet diplomatic contacts failed to produce progress.

The U.S. and Iran exchanged messages through Omani mediators and between Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister, and briefly discussed a possible in-person meeting that never happened. Trump now believes his military options have expanded with a U.S. carrier strike group in the region.

Officials say potential targets include Iranian leaders, security officials linked to protester killings, nuclear facilities and government institutions. U.S. intelligence also indicates Iran is rebuilding its nuclear sites deeper underground and blocking UN inspections.

Washington has demanded Iran permanently end uranium enrichment, limit its ballistic missile program and stop supporting regional proxy groups, but Tehran has rejected missile limits and will only discuss nuclear issues.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but from a timing standpoint the delay has likely allowed Iran to scatter missile launchers and move key people around. Their SRBMs can be concealed in regular trucks which would make targeting difficult until after they are able to shoot. Key military buildings were already destroyed by Israel over the summer. Highly likely they've moved command and control nodes underground, likely under medical facilities and other soft civilian targets.

Not sure how many TELs (Transport Erector Launchers) Iran has left for their medium and longer range ballistics (what they would need to attack Israel), but guesstimates over the summer were that Israel had taken out upwards of 2/3 of them. Israel also took out their ballistic fuel production facilities. Iran launched a few upgraded more maneuverable ballistic missiles during the summer which are more difficult to intercept but it's the public's guess as to how many of those they have. How much they've been able to rebuild in seven months is anyone's guess.

Not well publicized but the US geodesic radome communications array at Al Udeid (Qatar) may have been successfully targeted by an Iranian missile or drone in July. Iran has way more SRBMs available to launch than they actually did in 2025 and our bases are in range. They only launched something like 13 missiles and they have hundreds of these. This would be the primary concern - saturation attacks, perhaps with Chinese-aided accuracy upgrades. Would have to think that any Iranian response to a US attack would that of desperation and they would try to send as much as possible our way.

Of course, it is possible a negotiated deal has already been made for the US to make token strikes to appease the public desire for retribution for the protestor deaths (and to appease the Saudis and Qataris who don't want a civil war breaking out next door) with a coordinated Iranian response all over again just like last time.
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How many they have left?
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So Trump oddly and publicly promotes the current deal which is the current regime survives if they will surrender their nuclear program. The average Iranian will likely now wait on the sideline to see if the rug gets pulled out from under them (once again) or wait and get back into overthrow mode only when the bombs fall.
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Civil war in Iran has always been one of the risks of taking out the band of thieves that have ruled Iran with an iron fist for so long. Power vacuum and not knowing what comes out of it although it's hard for me to imagine it could be worse than what they had . Still, there would probably be millions of lives lost in the bargain. I have to think there is a plan in place to mitigate this risk. I thought Pavlavi had the credibility and support inside to at least take some measure of control and get them headed in a better direction but maybe I was wrong on that?
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You would have the Shia militias to deal with as well as the IRGC.

Not sure about their regular army. They don't invest much into the regulars but they're more of the normal people and not the religious zealots.

The IRGC leadership training programs involves a crap ton of religious study. The younger generation who replaced all of the leaders Israel took out are going to be zealous true believer types.

I think the best hope is for the regular army to coup and fight with the population. That's a stretch though.
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AtticusMatlock said:




The countries we give fighter jets.
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Neat. About as relevant as North Korea saying we can't use their airspace to attack Iran
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Countries that overlook goat romance get big mad mad when you violate the sacred air space of the prophet.
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Saudi airspace would be useful. UAE somewhat. Azerbaijan? We won't be coming from Russia or Kazakhstan.

Saudi's and UAE are likely just signaling "please don't shoot missiles at us". Azerbaijan is completely irrelevant
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Grumble, I am not 'in the know' by any means here but I had hoped/thought this might have happened last weekend, now it sounds another week out, if this speculation is true.

The air-transit/lift of materiel into the 'region' can be over-stated as significant sometimes, but I do think it's been quite obviously very substantial of late.
 
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