did anyone else hear that the USA/Islamic Republic surrender talks scheduled for friday
have now been cancelled?
have now been cancelled?
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Thats because on Friday we're going to:LMCane said:
did anyone else hear that the USA/Islamic Republic surrender talks scheduled for friday
have now been cancelled?
Has it? I know the US is not agreeing to the bilateral setup and moving it to Oman or wherever.
Both sides are likely fine with a delay. Iran so the mullahs, ayatollahs, IRGC leadership can get their affairs and travel arrangements in order, the US so it can continue to supplement assets in the area.
Both sides are likely fine with a delay. Iran so the mullahs, ayatollahs, IRGC leadership can get their affairs and travel arrangements in order, the US so it can continue to supplement assets in the area.
Shoe97 said:
This might stir things up a bit.
F-35 from the LINCOLN shoots down an Iranian Shahed-139 drone.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-shoots-down-iranian-drone-approaching-aircraft-carrier-official-says-2026-02-03/
Get some Marines
nortex97 said:
I just think they believe they can bluff their way out again, as that has been the case for decades.You do not move this volume of air defenses into the region unless you are preparing for serious Iranian retaliation.
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) February 3, 2026
These air defense transfer flights have been running for 2 to 3 weeks. That kind of timeline only makes sense if planners expect sustained retaliatory strikes… https://t.co/3YexxhU6rb
What I don't believe is that we are doing all of this just to negotiate another faux promise not to build a nuke weapon.
It's what happens after the strikes that matter, and it took us 4+ months both times we attacked Iraq to build up forces. I don't think it will take that long 'this time' but it's only been around a month or so, for this (hopefully air) operation to get systems into place. Of course, we're not really moving ground forces (which is good) but we are also building continuously intelligence as to what they are moving/saying/doing during this process, something else the 'negotiation' pratter helps with.
It makes sense Trump is listening to the Pentagon folks about what they are planning/can do/need before ordering the actual strikes, knowing he is the one who is going to be getting briefed on 'what went wrong' the minute SHTF. It's very, very easy to anticipate MSM Propaganda headlines of 'American pilot captured' and 'Iranian civilians killed in strikes' or 'Pentagon warned more Air Defense assets needed before Trump ordered strikes' once it begins. There are still Vindman/Ciaramella-traitors within the halls of the Pentagon (and about town, not just on the Hill), no doubt, and they know folks like that were never penalized/punished for their sedition.
Yeah, in Iraq we had to account for their 1M man army which was the 4th largest standing military on the planet at the time. And we easily smoked Iraq's military. Nothing like that here or at least no real way for them to project their military.
Have our local Anti-ICE and pro-Hamas fans weighed in on this yet?
Crimes Against Humanity by IRI Regime. Will be held accountable. https://t.co/xgnhFbQYtT
— Ellie Cohanim (@EllieCohanim) February 4, 2026
Yeah a lot of the time requirement for Iraq invasions was moving numerous armored and infantry divisions and all their logistical tail by sea. We aren't going to invade Iran, just moving air assets and air defense for the most part.
I remember seeing Abrams tanks headed to the coast (and eventually Iraq) on the train through campus my freshman year.
I remember seeing Abrams tanks headed to the coast (and eventually Iraq) on the train through campus my freshman year.
The greatest SECSTATE in the history of the Republic stated today
"he doesn't think a deal can be done with those guys" in Teheran because they are terrorists and don't care about their own people.
Islamic Republic was trying to AS THEY ALWAYS DO change the agreements at the last minute from Turkey with the other Arabs discussing ALL issues...
to Oman and only have the USA and the terrorists discuss the nuclear weapons program.
Americans told them "it's either all or nothing" and the Iranians said "fine then nothing"
"he doesn't think a deal can be done with those guys" in Teheran because they are terrorists and don't care about their own people.
Islamic Republic was trying to AS THEY ALWAYS DO change the agreements at the last minute from Turkey with the other Arabs discussing ALL issues...
to Oman and only have the USA and the terrorists discuss the nuclear weapons program.
Americans told them "it's either all or nothing" and the Iranians said "fine then nothing"
Maybe. Millennium Challenge (maybe) taught us not to underestimate asymmetric threats like drones, suicide boats, and large scale missile attacks. It's certainly a different world since then, but you never know what can happen until it does.
THIS!!
"Should the Supreme Leader in Iran be worried right now?"@POTUS: "I would say he should be very worried, yeah, he should be." pic.twitter.com/kMQTzx61V1
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) February 4, 2026
We also had a bunch of land forces involved, and activated national guard/reserves for Iraq which is not the case here. Because we don't want to repeat the aftermath:
Heck, the Brits alone sent 45K to toss out Saddam too. They couldn't fathom sending more than 5K today, and Starmer is resigning shortly.
Some of this is just not analogous to the two Iraq wars is my point.
Quote:
They included:
- The First Marine Expeditionary Force, with approximately 50,000 Marines.
- The Army's Third Infantry Division, a mechanized unit with 16,500 soldiers, dozens of Apache attack and Kiowa Warrior scout helicopters, and hundreds of M1A1 Abrams tanks and M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles.
- The Army's 101st Airborne Division, with a total of 19,000 personnel and about 280 helicopters. This unit was deployed via aircraft in both northern and southern Iraq.
- The 82nd Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade and the 173rd Airborne Brigade. These units fought in central and northern Iraq.
- The Army's V Corps, based in Heidelberg, Germany. V Corps commander Lt. Gen. William Wallace was placed in charge of all Army units taking part in the invasion. V Corps personnel numbered some 35,000 and included engineering, military police, air defense, and helicopter attack units.
Heck, the Brits alone sent 45K to toss out Saddam too. They couldn't fathom sending more than 5K today, and Starmer is resigning shortly.
Some of this is just not analogous to the two Iraq wars is my point.
ttha_aggie_09 said:LMCane said:
did anyone else hear that the USA/Islamic Republic surrender talks scheduled for friday
have now been cancelled?
Thats because on Friday we're going to:
I think you mean this one.
Same song, right?
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Same song, right?
One is Barbara Ann, the other is Bomb Iran but same music, different bands and different lyrics. I remember when Bomb Iran came out while our Embassy staff was being held hostage.
I was joking
nortex97 said:
We also had a bunch of land forces involved, and activated national guard/reserves for Iraq which is not the case here. Because we don't want to repeat the aftermath:Quote:
They included:
- The First Marine Expeditionary Force, with approximately 50,000 Marines.
- The Army's Third Infantry Division, a mechanized unit with 16,500 soldiers, dozens of Apache attack and Kiowa Warrior scout helicopters, and hundreds of M1A1 Abrams tanks and M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles.
- The Army's 101st Airborne Division, with a total of 19,000 personnel and about 280 helicopters. This unit was deployed via aircraft in both northern and southern Iraq.
- The 82nd Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade and the 173rd Airborne Brigade. These units fought in central and northern Iraq.
- The Army's V Corps, based in Heidelberg, Germany. V Corps commander Lt. Gen. William Wallace was placed in charge of all Army units taking part in the invasion. V Corps personnel numbered some 35,000 and included engineering, military police, air defense, and helicopter attack units.
Heck, the Brits alone sent 45K to toss out Saddam too. They couldn't fathom sending more than 5K today, and Starmer is resigning shortly.
Some of this is just not analogous to the two Iraq wars is my point.
Correct. We are on same page.
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Same song, right?
It's County & Eastern Music:
https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/1341187
J.D. Vance on negotiating with Iran:
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) February 5, 2026
The person who makes decisions in Iran is the Supreme Leader. The president doesn’t really decide anything. It seems the Iranian foreign minister reports to the Supreme Leader, and that’s mainly who we were in contact with.
It’s a very… pic.twitter.com/s3httvd09G
Yes, they like to remain very opaque in 'negotiations' imho, as the tactics/delays have been very effective for them over the decades. Going after their money (in what once was considered 'the west') is what might have gotten their attention, but I think it's too late for that at this point.
There is no reason to take them seriously:
I don't think this below is accurate, fwiw, though Babak in general doesn't make stuff up, and hope I am wrong:
Freeze his assets pic.twitter.com/TbKhgL2fwR
— Esty reed (@EstyReed40095) February 5, 2026
There is no reason to take them seriously:
Quote:
Esmaeil Kowsari, member of Iran's parliamentary National Security Committee:
"I am not optimistic about the negotiations. We are negotiating only to show the world that we are not avoiding talks.
Missile capabilities and regional issues are not America's business, and it has no right to make demands in these areas. The negotiations will address only the nuclear issue.
Uranium enrichment must take place on Iranian soil."
I don't think this below is accurate, fwiw, though Babak in general doesn't make stuff up, and hope I am wrong:
#Breaking: Multiple early warning radar sites of the #Iran Air Defence Force & #IRGC Aerospace Force were targeted in southwest of western Iran in the past several hours. One of them is the #IRIADF's Early Warning radar site at Dinarkouh near #Abdanan, SW Iran.
— Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) February 5, 2026
32°54'57.48"N… pic.twitter.com/8EMVnVWXDz
Iranian Terrorist regime doing what they do
IRGC seize two foreign-crewed tankers https://t.co/jVb25qv3a9
— Jonathan Schanzer (@JSchanzer) February 5, 2026
How it should be:
This is the US deal.
You have 15 minutes to accept as the order for bombs away has already been given. At XX:XX GMT the bombs will start falling.
This is the US deal.
You have 15 minutes to accept as the order for bombs away has already been given. At XX:XX GMT the bombs will start falling.
aTm '99
Six C-17 Globemasters from Spahngdalem enroute right now over Med heading towards Gulf
This will be scrap metal by EOW.
IRAN'S PRESS TV SAYS KHORRAMSHAHR 4 HAS A RANGE OF 2,000 KM, CAPABLE OF CARRYING 1,500 KG WARHEAD https://t.co/Rus3SVmLbn
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 5, 2026
because I can see into the future here is how tomorrow will go in Oman:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Vienna"
12 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Budapest"
17 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Amman"
23 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Dubai"
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Vienna"
12 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Budapest"
17 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Amman"
23 February:
"negotiations proceeding in a good spirit. some flexibility from the Iranian position. We will meet again in a week in Dubai"
#BREAKING: US Treasury’s Bessent says Iran regime is ‘wiring out money like crazy & the rats are leaving the ship.’
— Insider Wire (@InsiderWire) February 5, 2026
Good.
Preparing for the worst if talks collapse. An update on the current situation.
"Even as the US and Iran are scheduled to hold talks in Oman on Friday in hopes of defusing tensions between the two nations, Washington, Jerusalem and Tehran are all preparing for what could be a very violent future conflict. With the talks widely seen as a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avoid another war, the buildup of U.S. military capabilities in the region is continuing."
WAR?
"Even as the US and Iran are scheduled to hold talks in Oman on Friday in hopes of defusing tensions between the two nations, Washington, Jerusalem and Tehran are all preparing for what could be a very violent future conflict. With the talks widely seen as a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avoid another war, the buildup of U.S. military capabilities in the region is continuing."
WAR?
BREAKING: Al Jazeera claims to have obtained the US-Iran deal framework proposed by Turkey, Qatar and Egypt:
— Faytuks Network (@FaytuksNetwork) February 5, 2026
1. Iran agrees to commit to zero uranium enrichment for 3 years, and then agrees to under 1.5% enrichment after that
2. Its stockpile of Highly Enriched Uranium would be…
nortex97 said:#BREAKING: US Treasury’s Bessent says Iran regime is ‘wiring out money like crazy & the rats are leaving the ship.’
— Insider Wire (@InsiderWire) February 5, 2026
Good.
Where are they wiring their money to? Wish there was a way to freeze those assets to help bolster the post-war economy
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Russia
For all the good that did last time. Still, not a good sign.
👀👀👀
— TheIntelFrog (@TheIntelFrog) February 5, 2026
Iran is burying the entrances to its nuclear facilities once again.
Satellite imagery analyzed by @TheGoodISIS shows dirt is being placed at the entrance to the Esfahan nuclear site that was hit during operation MIDNIGHT HAMMER in June of last year. https://t.co/JlmbrgZsQY
74OA said:
Preparing for the worst if talks collapse. An update on the current situation.
"Even as the US and Iran are scheduled to hold talks in Oman on Friday in hopes of defusing tensions between the two nations, Washington, Jerusalem and Tehran are all preparing for what could be a very violent future conflict. With the talks widely seen as a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avoid another war, the buildup of U.S. military capabilities in the region is continuing."
WAR?BREAKING: Al Jazeera claims to have obtained the US-Iran deal framework proposed by Turkey, Qatar and Egypt:
— Faytuks Network (@FaytuksNetwork) February 5, 2026
1. Iran agrees to commit to zero uranium enrichment for 3 years, and then agrees to under 1.5% enrichment after that
2. Its stockpile of Highly Enriched Uranium would be…
That deal would be a slap in the face to all the people who were killed or injured by the IRGC after Trump told them he would help them.
Please tell me that we're not that stupid...
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74OA said:
For all the good that did last time. Still, not a good sign.👀👀👀
— TheIntelFrog (@TheIntelFrog) February 5, 2026
Iran is burying the entrances to its nuclear facilities once again.
Satellite imagery analyzed by @TheGoodISIS shows dirt is being placed at the entrance to the Esfahan nuclear site that was hit during operation MIDNIGHT HAMMER in June of last year. https://t.co/JlmbrgZsQY
Load up the GBU-57A/Bs...
agent-maroon said:
Please tell me that we're not that stupid...
I have no idea if "Faytuks news" is reliable at all for that kind of thing, and I don't really believe too much sourced to Al Jazeera when they have an opportunity to make the president look bad. But this is sounding suspiciously like how the negotiations with Russia over Ukraine started off. Though it sounds a lot more like an Iranian offer list than what we would come in with as an opening position. We wanted the talks to cover a lot more than the nuclear program and it was the Iranians who were trying to limit it just to a nuclear deal.
No more negotiations.
What's the point? The current leadership will NEVER honor any of it.
The deal should be:
1). All mullahs and government/military officials evacuate the country immediately
2) No nuclear program, period.
3) Democratic elections to be held at the earliest possible date, to be overseen by four neutral countries, to be chosen by the United States of America.
That's it. That's all. Don't agree to any of these, and your life is forfeit and they all happen anyway.
What's the point? The current leadership will NEVER honor any of it.
The deal should be:
1). All mullahs and government/military officials evacuate the country immediately
2) No nuclear program, period.
3) Democratic elections to be held at the earliest possible date, to be overseen by four neutral countries, to be chosen by the United States of America.
That's it. That's all. Don't agree to any of these, and your life is forfeit and they all happen anyway.
Iran just wants to stall long enough for a democrat to be back in the White House, then this deal won't be worth the paper it's printed on because Democrats capitulate and will give them exactly what they want and then throw some pallets of cash just to sweeten the cowtow.
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