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We won 54 games last year with an incredibly young roster. If they can make some smart, albeit not "impact" moves, to supplement the improvement they should see in the young guys and continuity, and they are still contending.

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The rockets lost two of their most important players and might lose Parsons.

They need an impact move in the next day or they might be the team that Phoenix knocks out of the playoffs.

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We won 54 games last year with an incredibly young roster. If they can make some smart, albeit not "impact" moves, to supplement the improvement they should see in the young guys and continuity, and they are still contending.

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No need to post in this thread anymore, its now a circle jerk for obsessed Spurs fans.

Lin was not one of our most important players. He was a terrible fit. Asik definitely was. Have to get some sort of defensive presence in the post off the bench.

Lin still ran the second team offense and scored well off the bench. Probably seventh most important player last year and losing him means losing important depth, especially since you have nothing to replace him with and in 36 hours will lose the ability to adequately replace him.

Who is your scorer lsc facilitator ofoff the bench?

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I think the rockets need a better perimeter defender to go with harden. Then a stretch 4 top keep defenses honest and keep from crowding Dwight.

Stephenson is more of a sg. Then would need a Ryan Anderson type pf. Who needs to cut tax space? Use the space for a trade.

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So we need a Parsons-type wing player and a stretch 4 similar to Bosh? Next you'll be informing us you need 10 players, a leather ball and two hoops to play an official game. Thanks for the old news, boss.

If Parsons was an elite defensive sf, your post would almost make sense. As it stands, it somehow adds less top the discussion than the rest of your posts.

Just an FYI, Asik is still on the roster and I see no reason trading him right now

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If Parsons was an elite defensive sf, your post would almost make sense. As it stands, it somehow adds less top the discussion than the rest of your posts.

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The entirety of your posts in this thread consist of telling us what we need that isn't available anymore in this FA. As if the majority of actual Rockets fans in this thread didn't know that alreadu. Hence you and DC Head posting in it more than any other posters.

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Still adds more to the discussion than your crying.

No it really doesn't. The fact you think you're adding any sort of fresh insight is probably the only value I find in this thread. Comedic value, of course.

Oh yes, your tears add so much. What would we do without your delicious, delicious tears.

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Just an FYI, Asik is still on the roster and I see no reason trading him right now

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Agreed. He's one of few tradeable assets remaining. I'd rather sit on him and see what he brings later this season.

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Oh yes, your tears add so much. What would we do without your delicious, delicious tears.

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Another valueble addition.

Carmelo officially off the list.

I don't like win shares very much. It promises more than it can deliver.

The versatile SF is vital in today's game, both because you have to match up with all time great SFs to win anything and because they provide mismatches and flexibility. All the SFs mentioned so far are good options. I still think continuity and commitment to defense are all the Rockets are really lacking. They have plenty of talent to be an elite team, as was so thoroughly discussed last offseason.

At this point, I also think you hang on to Asik until the right offer shows up. Take some of the load off Howard early in the season.

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We won 54 games last year with an incredibly young roster. If they can make some smart, albeit not "impact" moves, to supplement the improvement they should see in the young guys and continuity, and they are still contending.

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The rockets lost two of their most important players and might lose Parsons.

They need an impact move in the next day or they might be the team that Phoenix knocks out of the playoffs.

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Did you just really call Lin an important player ?

Come on man. Just because you hate the rockets and want to see them fail, you don't have to start making up stuff.

It's a disappointing off-season no matter what happens now. Morey gambled and it didn't work out. Just bad luck really. Who would have thought Miami would offer Bosh $118 million?

I'm not sure what I would do about Parsons. I would probably let him walk although that makes us not as good next year. But it leaves the future open.

Lesson learned: you just can't trust anyone who looks like a Raptor.

I'm seeing we're gonna sign Ariza and then pursue Bledsoe. Letting Parsons walk.

Canaan is just as serviceable as Lin

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I'm seeing we're gonna sign Ariza and then pursue Bledsoe. Letting Parsons walk.

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I'd be OK with this

If that's the case then I hope Bledsoe can stay healthy

Is Bledsoe+Ariza really any better than Bev+Parsons? Not to mention that we're replacing two starters yet again.

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Is Bledsoe+Ariza really any better than Bev+Parsons? Not to mention that we're replacing two starters yet again.

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Beverly is truly a bench PG

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Is Bledsoe+Ariza really any better than Bev+Parsons? Not to mention that we're replacing two starters yet again.

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Beverly is truly a bench PG

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If he never improves, yes he is. But he's young and his offensive game is still expanding. Swapping Parsons for Ariza in the hopes that Phoenix doesn't match is another huge risk. We were a good team already. Why not just let the team grow together?

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Who would have thought Miami would offer Bosh $118 million?

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Miami would have been trying to bring in free agents with a current roster of old man Wade (who is not even a lock to stay in Miami anymore), Justin Hamilton, Shabazz Napier, and Norris Cole. Their first round pick in next year's draft goes to the Cavs as part of the original S&T deal for Lebron, so if they suck they not only don't get a high pick, they have to watch Lebron's team take ANOTHER good player. If you're a "the NBA is basically the WWE" conspiracy theorist, there's no way the Cavs don't end up picking top 3. The Heat have no one signed this year because they were making space for Lebron/Wade/Bosh, which means they had truckloads of money to offer.

The Heat basically had to offer Bosh the max. The surprise is Bosh taking the money over a shot at another title (and also a lot of money), but then he already has two rings.

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I think people have started to overestimate the number of players that would want to chase a ring over money. It happens as has been seen with Duncan, Dirk, Gasol, etc. but I still think 90% of the time, the players are going to take the most money.

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I agree. And if Melo EVER says again he cares about winning I'm going to fly to new York and **** in his face

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Is Bledsoe+Ariza really any better than Bev+Parsons? Not to mention that we're replacing two starters yet again.

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That swap would be an obvious improvement for Houston IMO.

Ariza+Bledsoe
32 ppg
10.9 rpg
8 apg
3.5 steals

Parsons+Beverley
26.8 ppg
9 rpg
6.7 apg

There's nothing too out of whack with minutes to explain anything you didn't expect. Bledsoe might actually be the best player in the whole group. He's one of my personal favorite players and he's actually the youngest of the four (making it a little harder to count on Beverley's upside to balance the comparison). Ariza/Bledsoe is easily the more efficient duo offensively and they both have a better DRtg (104/106) than either Beverley or Parsons (108/108). Washington, Houston, and Phoenix are clustered pretty tightly together in defensive efficiency, making it tough to explain away the disparity.

In the end, Ariza and Parsons are either a wash or a small edge one way or the other depending on what you value, while Bledsoe is clearly better than Beverley. It also means you have a Beverley coming off the bench where he probably belongs at this stage in his career. So you're improving at starting PG and backup PG and maintaining at SF (actually improving in some of Houston's specific weaknesses).

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Scattershooting while wondering whatever happened to Zan Tabak: (apologies to Blackie Sherrod)

I like Beverley as a player, but he is overvalued by a lot of Rockets fans...he's an ideal PG off the bench that can defend well in short spurts and is a streaky scorer, but his aggressiveness also gets him in foul trouble frequently, and he is not going to dial that back (nor should he).

Ariza potentially in place of Parsons? A solid "eh" from me...both of them are going to be overpaid, it's just a matter of which one you could stomach more. One thing that might be different with Ariza this time is that his role wouldn't be the same as it was before...he'd be an ancillary piece, not the focus.

Don't know how realistic acquiring Bledsoe is; the timing for matching an offer sheet would not work in the Rockets' favor due to the Parsons clock winding down...I'm sure Phoenix would take their sweet time deciding (much like the Rockets are doing with Parsons, to be fair) and then probably match. They may not want to have over $30MM tied up in their backcourt (Dragic, I. Thomas, Bledsoe), though. S&T, perhaps?

Something that hasn't been mentioned is the two assistant coaching vacancies that have yet to be filled...whoever they end up being, hopefully they can instill some commitment to defense (looking at you, James) and accountability when they refuse to play defense. Lin wasn't a great defender, but I never got the feeling he was dogging it. Harden, on the other hand...****. If he gets committed to playing both ends consistently (getting in better shape would help, to be honest), it'll almost be like adding 1/2 a player.

S&T for Bledsoe and match on Parsons would be nice. No way Phoenix does that though.

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The rockets lost two of their most important players and might lose Parsons.

They need an impact move in the next day or they might be the team that Phoenix knocks out of the playoffs.

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Did you just really call Lin an important player ?

Come on man. Just because you hate the rockets and want to see them fail, you don't have to start making up stuff.

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I like the rockets and would rather have then good than any team in the west outside the spurs and pelicans. But Lin was the only offense off the bench. That is unquestionably important and not replacing that will hurt the team significantly. Harden can't do it all for 48/82 .

Lin scored 11 points/game in the playoffs. He's not a great scorer either, particularly when he has to be on the court at the same time as Harden.