******Rockets Offseason Roster Moves******* [Staff Warning on page 72]

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Watching the Rockets' summer league game, because I'm a gluten for punishment I guess, and Nick Johnson has looked much better than Canaan.
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26 year old Parsons is whiskers better than league average at the easiest position to fill in basketball. But I guess Dallas will build around him.
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Don't sleep on Memphis or Phoenix, either.

Memphis kept their 50-win team together and added Vince Carter. Conley/Gasol/ZBo/Tony Allen/Vince/Courtney Lee.

Phoenix kept their team together, but added Isaiah Thomas, who put up 20/6 last year on 45/35/85 shooting. A very impressive PER of 20.5.
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Just looking at what Detroit is doing it seems to me they want to get rid of Brandon Jennings. I'm surprised Morey isn't all over that yet.
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A backcourt with Brandon Jennings and James Harden would implode.
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I don't like Jennings at all and I don't think he's a good fit but It is Morey we're talking about.
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Jennings doesn't fit Money's profile at all.
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I am truly amazed how people don't realize how obvious it is that morey doesn't consider parsons a max player. He had no interest in 1 more cheap year then having to offer the max next year. He wanted to lock him up this year at a reduced rate. Didn't work, so he got a similar player at a reduced rate. It makes sense. Parsons cannot make $15M and be your 3rd best player if you're serious about winning championships. If he's your 4th best player, then you're in business.
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I am truly amazed how people don't realize how obvious it is that morey doesn't consider parsons a max player. He had no interest in 1 more cheap year then having to offer the max next year. He wanted to lock him up this year at a reduced rate. Didn't work, so he got a similar player at a reduced rate. It makes sense. Parsons cannot make $15M and be your 3rd best player if you're serious about winning championships. If he's your 4th best player, then you're in business.


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Then why didn't Morey trade Parsons? The Timberwolves made it known that they were interested in Parsons and the Rockets made it clear they wouldn't move him.

If they didn't believe he was a max type player, why would you balk at sending him to the Wolves in a deal that could have possibly included Love?


Who said so? Because I know this isn't true.

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July 13: Rockets Turn Ariza Signing Into Sign-and-Trade

Rockets get: Forwards Trevor Ariza, Alonzo Gee and Scotty Hopson, protected New Orleans 2015 first-round pick

Pelicans get: Forward Omri Casspi, center Omer Asik, cash considerations

Wizards get: Center Melvin Ely

Houston Rockets: A-

This three-team trade is essentially two separate transactions. One is the completion of the trade sending Asik to the Pelicans, which I previously graded when it was first reported before the NBA draft.

The other turns the signing of Ariza, reported Saturday, into a sign-and-trade instead of an outright free-agent signing. That allows the Rockets to stay over the cap, maintaining their full midlevel exception as well as the $8.3 million trade exception created with Friday's ill-fated trade sending Jeremy Lin to the L.A. Lakers. As compared to then, when we thought Houston was getting Chris Bosh, this is obviously a disappointing outcome, but as usual the Rockets will have flexibility. And the Asik trade was one they made before adding Bosh became a realistic possibility.

New Orleans Pelicans: C-

This deal is slightly better for the Pelicans than originally graded. Trading for the nonguaranteed contracts of Gee and Hopson allows them to trade by matching salaries rather than fitting Asik under the cap, which keeps them from having to trade a player (likely Austin Rivers) to clear space. And New Orleans was able to get Casspi from the Rockets, giving a little more depth to a thin bench.

Still, the Pelicans had to go under the cap to pull off this sequence of moves, forfeiting their $5.3 million midlevel exception for the smaller $2.65 million room exception. New Orleans also had to renounce its rights to free agents Al-Farouq Aminu and Jason Smith, leaving the team with only the room exception and minimum-salary contracts to fill out the roster. Besides costing a first-round pick, trading for Asik will also weaken the team's depth.

Washington Wizards: B+

The Wizards are fortunate that this three-team trade came together, as they gain a valuable trade exception for the amount of Ariza's first-year salary ($8.5 million). Ely's veteran's minimum contract is nonguaranteed through Aug. 1, per Mark Deeks, so Washington doesn't have to add any payroll in the deal.
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TexAgs1992
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Cokehead, I can tell you that if the Wolves had interest in a S&T for Parsons the Rockets would have done it in a heartbeat.
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I am truly amazed how people don't realize how obvious it is that morey doesn't consider parsons a max player. He had no interest in 1 more cheap year then having to offer the max next year. He wanted to lock him up this year at a reduced rate. Didn't work, so he got a similar player at a reduced rate. It makes sense. Parsons cannot make $15M and be your 3rd best player if you're serious about winning championships. If he's your 4th best player, then you're in business.

Parsons is definitely not a max player, but the one thing you leave out is the free agent SFs next year. Another cheap year with Parsons playing for his next contract, then if people are offering him the max you let him go. I suspect Parsons wouldn't have gotten that max offer if it weren't for the Bosh situation, so there's a chance you get him back cheaper next year.

Next year ought to be a nice year for reasonably priced good players at SF with Jeff Green, Gerald Green, Jimmy Butler, Wilson Chandler, Tobias Harris, or maybe even Giannis A on the market. Most of those guys are already at or near Parsons level and still pretty young. It's even possible that Harrison Barnes could be available, although GS would have to do the same thing Houston did which doesn't seem likely... because you just don't pass up the opportunity to keep good players on great contracts.

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I'm glad Morey didn't match on Parsons. I really like him but that would be a terrible contract for the Rockets. I wish he didn't go to Dallas though.

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Next year ought to be a nice year for reasonably priced good players


Not if certain teams come out throwing stupid money around again.

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Not if certain teams come out throwing stupid money around again.

There are too many guys available for all of them to get dumb contracts. I'm sure 1-2 will get way overpaid like Parsons and Hayward did this year, but the rest will be on reasonable deals like Deng and Ariza are.
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Felton sucks. After not accepting the the team option on Parsons, Morey has played this out pretty well. Couldn't have predicted Bosh giving us the shoulder. Got Ariza on a pretty good deal. Didn't overpay and match Parsons, even though I'm disappointed to see him go. Now I would like to at least attempt to sign Bledsoe. Offer him whatever you can.
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Well I guess I can watch Parsons play every night instead of my rockets.
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Is Morey still playing it slow and hoping to land Durant down the line?
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Probably so

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Frok
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I saw one article saying the Wizards were going to try hard for Durant since he's from DC. That would really shock me.
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With the salary cap going up, Parsons would have gotten paid a lot next year too. I think people on here are undervaluing him a bit. Only 6 other players matched his points, rebounds, and assists per game: LeBron, Durant, Love, Westbrook, Gordon Hayward and MCW. Considering Parsons was on a significantly better team than the last two, that's pretty damn good company.
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Durant and john wall would be fun to watch
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Morey on 790 right now has been fantastic imo. As Stein is also reporting expect Houston to go all in on rondo or love down the road
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Morey took a nice little shot at Dallas. We try to find the Chandler Parsons via draft not give them max deals
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Why is finding Parson like players via draft the way to do it? Is it to get them at a bargain for the duration of their rookie contracts....oh wait.

Morey thinks he is smarter than everyone, yet Dallas has been consistently the better organization over Houston since he has been there.

Good luck winning at title with Harden and Howard as your two best players and McHale as your best coach.

If you want a playoff team that has a revolving door for players then Morey is your guy. If you want to win an NBA championship he is towards the bottom of the list of GMs.
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I'll respond to that when I get out of traffic
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If you want a playoff team that has a revolving door for players then Morey is your guy. If you want to win an NBA championship he is towards the bottom of the list of GMs.

That's probably a bit of an overstatement. He's not at the top, but there are a lot of crummy GMs out there. Either he or the owner fall in love with the idea of home run offseasons and super teams, which ends up biting them.
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Mavs do draft pretty poorly. Have they gotten anyone since Josh Howard? Morey has drafted very well.

That said, Morey has a number of poor decisions on his record.

Lin over Dragic. Trading Nic Batum for Donte Green. Not keeping Chandler for a 4th year. Royce White. Waived Gerald Green. Signing Ariza the first time. Traded a first round pick for Terrence Williams. Dumped Marcus Morris for a 2nd round pick. Patrick Patterson, and Toney Douglas for Thomas Robinson.
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Morey took over a team with 55 wins and 2 stars. 2 years later both stars were shells of their former self. DM was then tasked with building a championship caliber team without tanking. He then turned a bunch of spares into 2 stars and team that won 54 games last year. I'd say that is not ever remotely comparable to what happened in Dallas as they had a star who was in their peak and stayed injury free.
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Morey makes a lot of high risk moves. Some don't work out and makes him look foolish. I thought he'd tone those down with a very young 54 win team...
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