******Rockets Offseason Roster Moves******* [Staff Warning on page 72]

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That link goes directly to the post that I predicted Wade would get 4/60.

I am afraid that it does not. It goes to page 1. And I'm not going to sort through 22 pages to find it
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GS does not want you to applaud Morey's brilliance, he wants you to applaud his.

That's where the Morey ire derives.
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You aren't applauding enthusiastically enough.
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Farmer1906
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GS is so proud of himself.
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I've been right more this offseason than Daryl Morey.
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4/60" or so"


doesn't count
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Too bad you're a nobody who posts on TexAgs and he's one of the best GMs in the league.
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And you are below both of us.
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GS's link worked for me on desktop. Bond and Summit, were you on mobile?
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And for that guy that swore up and down that Parsons on a 1-year ending deal was not good trade bait, here is Zach Lowe explaining why it was in his free agency Winners/Losers column.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-nba-free-agency-winners-and-losers-houston-rockets-chandler-parsons/


TL;DR: Letting Parsons opt out was a poor move, but at least he didn't compound it by overpaying Parsons. Ariza was a good pick up. The Lin trade was bad, but they are helped out some by the pick from NOLA. They can use their cap space or their trade exception, but not both (I didn't know that.) To use the cap space, they have to renounce the trade exception. The offseason would look a lot worse if they didn't have two great players on the team already.
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GS's link worked for me on desktop. Bond and Summit, were you on mobile?



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And for that guy that swore up and down that Parsons on a 1-year ending deal was not good trade bait, here is Zach Lowe explaining why it was in his free agency Winners/Losers column.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-nba-free-agency-winners-and-losers-houston-rockets-chandler-parsons/


TL;DR: Letting Parsons opt out was a poor move, but at least he didn't compound it by overpaying Parsons. Ariza was a good pick up. The Lin trade was bad, but they are helped out some by the pick from NOLA. They can use their cap space or their trade exception, but not both (I didn't know that.) To use the cap space, they have to renounce the trade exception. The offseason would look a lot worse if they didn't have two great players on the team already.




I said there was NO WAY Chandler would sign long term in the article north of Minnesota. There is no article that would make me think otherwise unless he came out and said he would. Minnesota would not give up love without reassurance that Parsons was there long term, simple FACT
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Luckily there are 28 other teams the Rockets could have possibly traded Parsons to.

The thought that Parsons at 900k plus his bird rights was an untradeable asset is asinine.
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Free agent Jeff Adrien has reached a 1-year deal with Houston, league sources tell Yahoo.



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See, I knew Morey wasn't done!
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GS's link worked for me on desktop. Bond and Summit, were you on mobile?

Indeed. That must be it
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I like the Adrien signing. He got a chance and played well. He's not Asik but I bet he's better than Smith was 2 years ago.
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The thought that Parsons at 900k plus his bird rights was an untradeable asset is asinine

Ah, now you're moving the goalposts. It's not that it made him untradeable, it's that, when combined with 2 other expirings, it made him untradeable in exchange for an all star/franchise type player, I.e a Kevin Love.. Which would be the only reason to trade parsons.
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Adrien is only 6'7".
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The thought that Parsons at 900k plus his bird rights was an untradeable asset is asinine

Ah, now you're moving the goalposts. It's not that it made him untradeable, it's that, when combined with 2 other expirings, it made him untradeable in exchange for an all star/franchise type player, I.e a Kevin Love.. Which would be the only reason to trade parsons.
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I'm not moving the goalposts at all. Having Parsons at 900k for 1 year is a better trading chip than not having Parsons or having Ariza for 4/32. There is no question or debate. This has always been my stance and one of the reasons why the move to not pick up the option was so bad.
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Averaged roughly 11 points and 8 boards per game after he was traded to Milwaukee. He could be a good backup role
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Sounds like Chuck Hayes if Chuck knew how to catch the ball.
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I miss the Chuckwagon
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He was fun to watch. At least he got that huge contract from Sacramento. 4y22mm. Ouch, guys.

I wonder what he made in Chinese shoe endorsements over his career? I know he was super popular in China.
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Adrien is only 6'7".


And Hayes was only 6'6". Dorsey is on;y 6'8". You don't have to be 7'0" to play in the paint.
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Dont forget Joey Dorsey too. You think they are looking at Mike Harris too?

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I remember Jeff Adrien was on the 2009 UConn team that clocked us in the round of 32...seems like an undersized PF type, but for a year, what the heck.

Plus, he fits the apparent offseason M.O. of signing as many former Rockets as possible.

Trevor Ariza, Jeff Adrien and Joey Dorsey.
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ChuckWagon and Joey Dorsey aren't good. Malik Rose wasn't good. DeJuan Blair isn't good.

In the modern NBA, not a lot of guys outside Barkley are any good in the paint at that height.
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Who needs Bosh when you have Adrien, Dorsey and Pappadopolous. Get em Morey.
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I'm not moving the goalposts at all. Having Parsons at 900k for 1 year is a better trading chip than not having Parsons or having Ariza for 4/32. There is no question or debate. This has always been my stance and one of the reasons why the move to not pick up the option was so bad.

Trading chip for a franchise player? In combination with what? 2 other expirings? The historical data doesn't support that. Rockets would have had to throw in Beverley and T jones and probably 1 more good looking prospect to get a team like minny to even take a proposal seriously. Please show me one trade that involved a franchise/all star caliber player in their prime that was traded for 3 expirings and a couple of draft picks. You're not facing reality and the historical data of how these things work.
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can't mention the chuckwagon without this:

 
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