Tenet 2: Tic Tac Boogaloo

tk for tu juan said:

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Tenet 2: Tic Tac Boogaloo

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Consider that 50ish years ago, a MOSFET process was 10 micrometers. Samsung now produces one that is 5 nanometers. (A micrometer is 1000 times larger than a nanometer). Moore's Law stands for the proposition that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit doubles every two years.

The point is that technological advance is not linear; it is exponential. That makes sense when you consider that the availability of processing power, combined with a reduction of cost, propagates more rapid advances. Consider that 140 years ago, Edison built the light bulb, and recently I went outside to watch a stream of "private" Starlink satellites orbit. If you need further proof, go shop for a 2TB flash drive, and marvel at both the size and the cost against your memory of Zip Disks 20 years ago.

The problem is that we can't really conceive of what exponential technological growth looks like. But I think what we can conceive is that anything we have, the military/government was probably screwing around with it 20+ years ago. The turbojet first showed up in the 1930s, but it wasn't on a civilian aircraft for nearly 30 years.

I'm not saying the government/military "solved gravity" or anything of that nature. But I do think it is likely that they have technology right now that won't be in the private sector for another 20 years. What has the extension of Moore's Law done in terms of progress on tech that is already a decade or more ahead of what we currently know about? Silent drones? Hyperlight and hyper strong alloys? Cutting edge aerodynamics? Who knows. Maybe it's Element 125.

Or maybe it's aliens.

You explained better than I could the concept of exponential development.

I'm a liberal arts guy, so I can only use bad analogies.

Years ago, I was tasked with some research for a large civil lawsuit. So I was going through 1950's newspaper archives, and even when I found what I was looking for, I always read the rest of the page. Somewhere else on the page in this 1955 newspaper was a recap of General Doolittle speaking to a civic group at the Rice Hotel in Houston. At the time, he was a member of a commission that was a forerunner of NASA. A woman in the audience asked him if we'd put a man on the Moon in their lifetimes. He responded that we could put a man on the Moon right now, the question was how to get him back. That was the mid-1950s.

The larger public heard JFK's speech at Rice Stadium in 1962, and saw a man on the Moon during Nixon's admin in 69. But the ability to get to the Moon had existed long before we had the ability to do so in marginal safety on television. Based on 1940s rocket technology.

I also believe that people really saw strange things in the NM and NV desserts when they were bouncing things off the ground to see what worked.

So it's reasonable to think that human technology exists that is way beyond what we use commercially or know of conversationally.

MW03 said:

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Consider that 50ish years ago, a MOSFET process was 10 micrometers. Samsung now produces one that is 5 nanometers. (A micrometer is 1000 times larger than a nanometer). Moore's Law stands for the proposition that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit doubles every two years.

The point is that technological advance is not linear; it is exponential. That makes sense when you consider that the availability of processing power, combined with a reduction of cost, propagates more rapid advances. Consider that 140 years ago, Edison built the light bulb, and recently I went outside to watch a stream of "private" Starlink satellites orbit. If you need further proof, go shop for a 2TB flash drive, and marvel at both the size and the cost against your memory of Zip Disks 20 years ago.

The problem is that we can't really conceive of what exponential technological growth looks like. But I think what we can conceive is that anything we have, the military/government was probably screwing around with it 20+ years ago. The turbojet first showed up in the 1930s, but it wasn't on a civilian aircraft for nearly 30 years.

I'm not saying the government/military "solved gravity" or anything of that nature. But I do think it is likely that they have technology right now that won't be in the private sector for another 20 years. What has the extension of Moore's Law done in terms of progress on tech that is already a decade or more ahead of what we currently know about? Silent drones? Hyperlight and hyper strong alloys? Cutting edge aerodynamics? Who knows. Maybe it's Element 125.

Or maybe it's aliens.

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1st Gigabit Hard Drive in 1980 - IBM 3380


1 TB Hard drive in 2021:

SpreadsheetAg said:

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MW03 said:

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Consider that 50ish years ago, a MOSFET process was 10 micrometers. Samsung now produces one that is 5 nanometers. (A micrometer is 1000 times larger than a nanometer). Moore's Law stands for the proposition that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit doubles every two years.

The point is that technological advance is not linear; it is exponential. That makes sense when you consider that the availability of processing power, combined with a reduction of cost, propagates more rapid advances. Consider that 140 years ago, Edison built the light bulb, and recently I went outside to watch a stream of "private" Starlink satellites orbit. If you need further proof, go shop for a 2TB flash drive, and marvel at both the size and the cost against your memory of Zip Disks 20 years ago.

The problem is that we can't really conceive of what exponential technological growth looks like. But I think what we can conceive is that anything we have, the military/government was probably screwing around with it 20+ years ago. The turbojet first showed up in the 1930s, but it wasn't on a civilian aircraft for nearly 30 years.

I'm not saying the government/military "solved gravity" or anything of that nature. But I do think it is likely that they have technology right now that won't be in the private sector for another 20 years. What has the extension of Moore's Law done in terms of progress on tech that is already a decade or more ahead of what we currently know about? Silent drones? Hyperlight and hyper strong alloys? Cutting edge aerodynamics? Who knows. Maybe it's Element 125.

Or maybe it's aliens.

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1st Gigabit Hard Drive in 1980 - IBM 3380


1 TB Hard drive in 2021:

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For sure. I remember buying a 128MB flash drive when I was at A&M and it cost like $50, and being amazed something like that size could hold that much memory. Now 5GB flash drives are swag bag party favors given out for free.

Humans are really bad eye witnesses, and our govt (and others) have been working on secret toys. The combo explains a lot

The more I read on this, the more I lean toward this being of earthly origin. At a high level, why would the UFOs play with our airplanes and zoom away. What point does that serve? If they are here,I think they would land somewhere and make contact (either that or just eradicate us all) If they are so efficient as to travel light years to get here, they are not going to play around and LOL at us. They are going to get straight to the point.
Technically I think what we we are seeing is one or a mixture of the following:

Super super high tech laser induced plasma, radar artifacts
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/05/11/us-navy-laser-creates-plasma-ufos/?sh=175346b01074

Maybe even something being tested from these Navy patents
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4adpv9/us-navy-has-patents-on-tech-it-says-will-engineer-the-fabric-of-reality

Hypersonic Drones either our own or China/Russia (could be launched from Submarine or nearby Cargo ship)
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2694546/ufo-us-navy-hypersonic-china-russia/


Balloons, Airplanes on radar being misinterpreted due to parallax effect, zoom factor, among other things

Seems presumptuous and frankly arrogant to me to ascribe human motivation/nature to an alien civilization. What we interpret as "playing around" could serve a completely different purpose for them. I'm not saying we can't ultimately understand them, but just because we think they wouldn't do this or that, we shouldn't altogether rule out the possibility of their existence/presence.

Thats fair. What we interpret as a game of peek a boo, they could be analyzing our capabilities ( or licking their chops) It's beyond our comprehension their intentions. They may also just decide to up and leave tomorrow and come back in thousand years when they see how ghetto our technology is compared to theirs.

I still think there is an earthly explanation, but we won't hear about it cause it is top secret military tech

aTmAg said:

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AMW2010 said:

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So last nights storm in Houston was pretty insane. I got caught driving home in the middle of it. Power out on the street and TONS of lightning... I wonder what something outside this earth would think of a crazy lightning storm like last night had they never seen anything like that before... hell maybe they've never seen rain or hail either

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I would think they would understand that. It's just condensation and static electricity.

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Until a bolt of lightning strikes their ship and sends them back in time! Lol

This is a low IQ post.

RAB87 said:

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This is really the story of the evolution of "journalism", aka "fake news". The graduates of this program largely make failing grades in at least two other majors. Their curriculum includes no STEM courses, yet they proclaim "science is real". The latest trends around UFOs are nothing more than the imagination of low IQ, low ambition "journalism" majors.

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Quoted for posterity.

What is going on?

RAB87 said:

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TCTTS said:

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This is a low IQ post.

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Facts are hard.

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What the hell are you on?

RAB87 said:

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TCTTS said:

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This is a low IQ post.

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Facts are hard.

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Agreed, but you're not even addressing this specific story. Fact: the US military is now acknowledging that pilots have indeed documented encounters with flying objects that cannot be identified yet. Or to put it even more precisely, they are now admitting publicly that some of these sightings are of real objects that have been tracked doing things that are beyond the technological capabilities of our current generation of aircraft. That's the story. Some have predictably jumped straight to "it must be aliens!", but so far that is NOT this story. Your criticisms of journalism are not wrong, but they're not relevant in this instance.