redline248 said:
TCTTS said:
Imagine the "fake news" cries if that did happen, though. The denial would be off the charts, aliens would surely be labeled as "demons," etc. A certain sect of the ultra-religious would never allow themselves to believe that aliens created us, even if aliens could prove as much. Rather, it would all be labeled as a smoke and mirrors job conceived by Satan himself. In other words, it would be the wake of the 2020 election on steroids.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate this post? Willing to believe aliens exist but not that Satan and other devils/demons exist and would lie to us that they are aliens
The existence of life beyond Earth is a mathematical certainty, given the vast size of the universe, sheer number of stars and habitable planets, etc. In fact, statistics tell us there have likely been thousands if not millions of advanced civilizations at one time or another in the cosmos. The only "belief" that comes into play is whether any of those civilizations have visited us or not.
As opposed to the idea that a supreme God resides in a "perfect" heaven, yet this so-called heaven was/is also a place where jealousy exists, and one of God's subordinates in this "perfect" place became so jealous that he rebelled and was kicked out, took reign over an underworld we call Hell, and for hundreds of thousands of years (never mind whatever he was doing for the billions of years prior to human existence) has been working to corrupt the human race, capture their souls, and defeat God, despite being one of the only beings to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God is not only real, but is responsible for all of creation and cannot be defeated. Not to mention, this is a supernatural being who is the literal epitome of evil, yet whose only apparent tools are corruption and influence and disguising himself as a snake. Not to mention, his minions can also maybe possess the bodies of humans? At least, only until someone mentions Jesus' name a bunch, which annoys them so much they have no choice but to flee back to their underworld. Oh, and despite having no need for genitalia or hormones, there was a time when these minions lusted after earthly women, and were even able to have sex with them, ushering in a race of giant human-demon hybrids that we can find no historical or anthropological trace of.
Ha, I'm sorry, but one of us is basing their views on science/logic, while the other seems to be advocating a fairy tale no less fanciful than Greek mythology, but makes about as much sense.
And for the record, I believe in *a* god (of sorts), and I believe that our souls/consciousness extend past this life. What I refuse to believe in is an all-powerful, "all-loving" God who forces billions upon billions of souls into existence, gives them a wildly uneven playing field with which to come up with one "right" answer (an admission that His son is Lord and Savior), knowing full well that the vast majority of those souls will end up in Hell, which
He allows to exist, ruled by a being
He kicked out, from a so-called "perfect" realm in which
He allowed jealousy to fester.
The whole thing is just absurd, made more so by the fact that *I'm* the one being alluded to as unreasonable in this scenario, despite being the one choosing clear logic over the existence of an ultimately sadistic God and all the contradictions that come with believing in Him.