Even the former leader of your United States of America, James Earl Carter Jr., thought he saw a UFO once. But it's been proven he only saw the planet Venus.

Venus was at its peak brilliance last night. You probably thought you saw something up in the sky other than Venus, but I assure you, it was Venus.

What are your guys' favorite docs on the subject? Unidentified and The Phenomenon (recently discovered it is free via The Travel Channel on-demand) are both pretty good. Any other recomendations that aren't some random dude on Youtube or some series that is just trying to throw crap against the wall?

Also as far as interviews:
JRE: Christopher Mellon,
JRE: Frevor & Corbell,
JRE: Lazar & Corbell (could be total fiction),
JRE: Tom DeLonge (could be mostly fiction),

Also the movie Fire in The Sky which is based on Travis Walton's story is a possible terrifying account and hasn't been disproven (although I am aware there are skeptics "proof" of why it didn't happen), he too was on JRE, but was kind of an annoying listen.

For me, the two seasons of Unidentified on the History Channel remain the most credible documentary reporting on the subject to date. No frills, extremely well produced, and focused mainly on the military component and highly credible military subjects. Just an all around solid and serious look at the subject, from a unique perspective via actual former government officials.

The Phenomenon was good too, though I didn't find it to be quite as compelling as most others do.

There was also a three-part, six-hour Roswell doc earlier this year that was incredibly well done as well, as part of this season's History's Greatest Mysteries hosted by Lawrence Fishburne. Would highly recommend seeking that one out, as I learned so much about Jesse Marcel, specifically, that I didn't know prior.

I'll give the Roswell doc a look. I have always been extremely skeptical of that event because this unknown entity with this highly advanced tech comes here and well umm crashes. That just seems a bit bizarre.

Agree about the Unidentified series as far as the government and military angle really setting it apart from pretty much anything else.

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What are your guys' favorite docs on the subject? Unidentified and The Phenomenon (recently discovered it is free via The Travel Channel on-demand) are both pretty good. Any other recomendations that aren't some random dude on Youtube or some series that is just trying to throw crap against the wall?

Also as far as interviews:
JRE: Christopher Mellon,
JRE: Frevor & Corbell,
JRE: Lazar & Corbell (could be total fiction),
JRE: Tom DeLonge (could be mostly fiction),

Also the movie Fire in The Sky which is based on Travis Walton's story is a possible terrifying account and hasn't been disproven (although I am aware there are skeptics "proof" of why it didn't happen), he too was on JRE, but was kind of an annoying listen.

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Fire in the Sky scared the sh** out of me when it came out. Supposedly they didn't use much of Walton's account for the scenes on the ship.

Re: Roswell, I hear you. For what it's worth, deeper investigating points to two crashed alien craft. We know for a fact that there were lightning storms that night, so I could potentially buy a scenario in which two craft somehow collided in mid air, in the midst of a lightning storm. Yes, even that scenario is obviously still highly unlikely, but it at least provides a somewhat plausible explanation.

Honestly, to me, the most compelling aspect of the whole thing is Jesse Marcel's story and actions, which are what the docuseries focuses on. From his role in Hiroshima, to what he went through in Roswell, and the circumstances in which he left the military, it all absolutely points to *something* rocking his world and shaking his faith in our government as a whole, and it's just so interesting to hear. To the point where I've been giving serious consideration to wanting to try and make a movie that focuses on HIS story, specifically, in the whole ordeal. No alien bodies, no typical Roswell schlock, just HIS part and experience alone could be make for such a compelling story (and yes, there was a terrible, half-assed TV movie in the mid '90s starring Kyle MacLachlan as Marcel, but it doesn't really even come close to doing Marcel justice).

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What are your guys' favorite docs on the subject? Unidentified and The Phenomenon (recently discovered it is free via The Travel Channel on-demand) are both pretty good. Any other recomendations that aren't some random dude on Youtube or some series that is just trying to throw crap against the wall?

Also as far as interviews:
JRE: Christopher Mellon,
JRE: Frevor & Corbell,
JRE: Lazar & Corbell (could be total fiction),
JRE: Tom DeLonge (could be mostly fiction),

Also the movie Fire in The Sky which is based on Travis Walton's story is a possible terrifying account and hasn't been disproven (although I am aware there are skeptics "proof" of why it didn't happen), he too was on JRE, but was kind of an annoying listen.

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Fire in the Sky scared the sh** out of me when it came out. Supposedly they didn't use much of Walton's account for the scenes on the ship.

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Scariest movie I've ever seen. Or, rather, that final sequence on the ship is the most scared I've ever been in a movie theater. I think I was 13 or 14 at the time, and it truly f/cked me up.

Sorry. Just saw this thread and have not caught up on all the previous postings but I just wanted to add

It would be wicked cool if our first contact is not little green men or grey bug-eyed creatures but instead, some Bigfoot/Yeti looking beings.

After all my posts on this thread, I almost missed the segment b/c I didn't know or remember when 60 Minutes came on. Thanks to the magic of DirecTV, I was able to rewind to the beginning to see.....Luis Elizondo.

Still over two hours until it airs for me in LA...

UFO heads on Twitter, at least, seem *very* pleased with what just aired.

I havent seen it but I feel like they would be pleased with just the fact that a ufo was on a national mainstream show.

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I havent seen it but I feel like they would be pleased with just the fact that a ufo was on a national mainstream show.

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True. No doubt.

But it seems every point they were hoping would be covered was covered, every credible pilot/talking head they wanted to see interviewed was interviewed, and apparently they treated the topic as a whole seriously, with as little speculation as possible, and more of a just-the-facts approach.

Regardless, Twitter is absolutely buzzing right now.

I tuned in. Haven't really watched 60 minutes much recently. It just highlights the differences in traditional media and reporting and what is covered in podcasts like JRE. If you want a very high level skimming of this topic, this is fine. But as someone who watched a 16 min snippet of the same pilot talking, I know a lot was left out, glossed over, and just editorialized for the sake of fitting in the format of the show.

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Long story short, the people they had on there said we don't know what these things are, but they are real.

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And that's enough for now. These AREN'T hallucinations or mistakenly identified craft/phenomenon. They *are* real, and this *is* happening. The question is, are they ours, China's, Russia's, or are they truly extra/ultraterrestrial?

I didn't know when 60 minutes aired and missed it... oh well hahah

Should be online soon. Will post when it's up.

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I think having the female pilot who had never come forward on this helps with the credibility. The forthcoming unclassified report coming out will be interesting.

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Yep. And they confirmed 4 eyewitnesses plus radar and video of one of event.

*and another pilot stating that sightings happening regularly. Pilots just don't want to come forward if they think they are the only ones who saw something, or if they think it's classified.

Just establishing that they are real is the important starting point, before launching into agenda-driven theories or fantasies.

As evidence by this very thread at times.

Thanks for posting that overtime video. The end of it is really interesting. The whole thing highlights the difference between "cover up" and uncertainty, or the sightings simply not being taken seriously by supervisors or peers.

Thanks!

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I don't understand why some people get so defensive on this subject. None of these people stated it was obviously "little green men." They are just saying it is something. It could be something from a foreign power (although that sounds doubtful), it could be something from outside of our planet. or it could be something that has always existed on this planet that we are just now able to detect.

Scientist's are constantly making new discoveries regarding things on this planet. I was just reading something the other day about some new sea creature that was discovered recently living at the bottom of the ocean. Why is this so different?

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