they probably bought them in the name of research as part of some grant.
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I, too, would like to research life on the coast
How far down the rabbit hole..
Do you want to go? RE: Dr. Steven Greer has mentioned this in the past. Maybe he got his intel from this fella?
A civilized species..LOL. No wonder "they" don't openly show themselves.
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense."
Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Do you want to go? RE: Dr. Steven Greer has mentioned this in the past. Maybe he got his intel from this fella?
A civilized species..LOL. No wonder "they" don't openly show themselves.
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense."
Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
Sorry, didn't realize this thread would be so interesting. And it's so nice to be loved...
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
This has been my main motivation for bringing this all to light on the boards. It's a major game-changer. Everything changes. Many appear to be waiting on MSM to give them the go-ahead. With the NYT 2017 article, polls say that those that believe in intelligent life off our planet went from appox.50% to 60%. An updated poll would probably result in even higher %s. Just guessing, but some will have a difficult time with this reality. Personally, it has not been an easy ride. We will get through it.Southlake said:
Sorry, didn't realize this thread would be so interesting. And it's so nice to be loved...
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
After reading this thread I've been inspired to carve out a mashed potatoes Devils Tower in front of the fam this evening and first light Saturday donning my robe & ripping out every bit of landscaping around the house.
What's the level of decay on our transmissions to even be able to interpret as something other than cosmic background radiation once we're past say 1LY? (Asking, I don't know).
As for the 15,000 stars the probability that one has intelligent life capable of understanding and finding our signals may in fact be 0, or it could be 1. We have no clue whatsoever.
As an aside I am a member of the LA Astronomical Society. Pre-kids/Covid I would go to the meetings to stargaze, grind glass for a homemade telescope and shoot the breeze with fellow nerds. I made friends with a CalTech Postdoc who had a Berkeley PhD in astrophysics and had some telescope time on Kepler for his research on exoplanets in the habitable zone. I got to hang out and observe him doing his thing with Kepler in the wee hours of the morning. Very cool experience.
As for the 15,000 stars the probability that one has intelligent life capable of understanding and finding our signals may in fact be 0, or it could be 1. We have no clue whatsoever.
As an aside I am a member of the LA Astronomical Society. Pre-kids/Covid I would go to the meetings to stargaze, grind glass for a homemade telescope and shoot the breeze with fellow nerds. I made friends with a CalTech Postdoc who had a Berkeley PhD in astrophysics and had some telescope time on Kepler for his research on exoplanets in the habitable zone. I got to hang out and observe him doing his thing with Kepler in the wee hours of the morning. Very cool experience.
There is a lot about consiousness that we don't understand, so I don't totally dismiss it, but it is such an extraordinary claim that I am going to need some definitive proof that it actually works before I go down that rabbit hole. Not that it kind of works some of the time... so is it possible, but they just really suck at it? Okay get better at it and then I'll pay attention.Spyderman said:Some that research etc. the subject have a similar take on Steven Greer. Not sure how close you follow the subject, but curious on your take? Its the SETI folk that get a big NOPE from me.Mr President Elect said:
Steven Grier is one of the guys in the community that if I see he is apart of it, I avoid or turn it off.
gracias
As far as Greer himself, he just mentions that he is a doctor way too much and just screams narcissist. He charges people to meditate in the dessert to call upon the aliens, again I'm not totally dismissive of the possibilty although I think it is extremely unlikely, but I am not going to waste my time following or listening to him until he brings substantial proof that it works.
Yeah, this makes it even less likely. Voyager is 123.6 AU away from us right now (which is only 0.00195 lightyears away) and we can barely hear from it anymore.Malibu2 said:
What's the level of decay on our transmissions to even be able to interpret as something other than cosmic background radiation once we're past say 1LY? (Asking, I don't know).
As for the 15,000 stars the probability that one has intelligent life capable of understanding and finding our signals may in fact be 0, or it could be 1. We have no clue whatsoever.
As an aside I am a member of the LA Astronomical Society. Pre-kids/Covid I would go to the meetings to stargaze, grind glass for a homemade telescope and shoot the breeze with fellow nerds. I made friends with a CalTech Postdoc who had a Berkeley PhD in astrophysics and had some telescope time on Kepler for his research on exoplanets in the habitable zone. I got to hang out and observe him doing his thing with Kepler in the wee hours of the morning. Very cool experience.
As with any challenge like this, it can be dismissed with "they have technologies we can't even conceive of". That's not an invalid thought, but can pretty much be used to answer anything.aTmAg said:
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
aTmAg said:Yeah, this makes it even less likely. Voyager is 123.6 AU away from us right now (which is only 0.00195 lightyears away) and we can barely hear from it anymore.Malibu2 said:
What's the level of decay on our transmissions to even be able to interpret as something other than cosmic background radiation once we're past say 1LY? (Asking, I don't know).
As for the 15,000 stars the probability that one has intelligent life capable of understanding and finding our signals may in fact be 0, or it could be 1. We have no clue whatsoever.
As an aside I am a member of the LA Astronomical Society. Pre-kids/Covid I would go to the meetings to stargaze, grind glass for a homemade telescope and shoot the breeze with fellow nerds. I made friends with a CalTech Postdoc who had a Berkeley PhD in astrophysics and had some telescope time on Kepler for his research on exoplanets in the habitable zone. I got to hang out and observe him doing his thing with Kepler in the wee hours of the morning. Very cool experience.
Voyager is probably a bad example because we're talking about one little spacecraft with 1970's technology. A civilization would put out a lot more power, especially considering they'd get more powerful as they advanced.
I think time and distance, as opposed to signal decay, is the limiter for most of this. We can see galaxies billions of light years away. EM emissions can travel really far.
Well unless we are way wrong about cosmic speed limits (which so far seems to not be the case), then it is impossible for any information to travel faster than the speed of light. So no matter what technology they have on their end, information from us will never reach them until a X amount time.Complete Idiot said:As with any challenge like this, it can be dismissed with "they have technologies we can't even conceive of". That's not an invalid thought, but can pretty much be used to answer anything.aTmAg said:
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
Galaxies are VERY high energy (obviously). Due to the inverse square law, we are seeing a tiny fraction of the light that they originally spewed. They are just so freaking bright, that there is still light left by the time it reaches us. Obviously, we don't expel anywhere near that amount of energy.Decay said:aTmAg said:Yeah, this makes it even less likely. Voyager is 123.6 AU away from us right now (which is only 0.00195 lightyears away) and we can barely hear from it anymore.Malibu2 said:
What's the level of decay on our transmissions to even be able to interpret as something other than cosmic background radiation once we're past say 1LY? (Asking, I don't know).
As for the 15,000 stars the probability that one has intelligent life capable of understanding and finding our signals may in fact be 0, or it could be 1. We have no clue whatsoever.
As an aside I am a member of the LA Astronomical Society. Pre-kids/Covid I would go to the meetings to stargaze, grind glass for a homemade telescope and shoot the breeze with fellow nerds. I made friends with a CalTech Postdoc who had a Berkeley PhD in astrophysics and had some telescope time on Kepler for his research on exoplanets in the habitable zone. I got to hang out and observe him doing his thing with Kepler in the wee hours of the morning. Very cool experience.
Voyager is probably a bad example because we're talking about one little spacecraft with 1970's technology. A civilization would put out a lot more power, especially considering they'd get more powerful as they advanced.
I think time and distance, as opposed to signal decay, is the limiter for most of this. We can see galaxies billions of light years away. EM emissions can travel really far.
Earth is just a remote "convenience store" stop on the galactic highway. Drop down for some saltwater and leave before the locals try to talk to you
I was flipping thru the radio on the road today, and stopped on a "sports" talk show from Houston with hosts who love to take shots at conservative politicians. So they started in on Marco Rubio and his comments about taking these observations seriously in light of the upcoming Senate report. Naturally, they started mocking him and going off on tangents to make it all seem absurd. They thought it would be hilarious if this came up when ran for office again.
Who needs a government cover-up when so many media wise asses are ready to make a joke of the whole thing?
We've been at this same point since the 1970's, no matter how many credible sources come out:
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/14/archives/ufo-files-the-untold-story.html
Who needs a government cover-up when so many media wise asses are ready to make a joke of the whole thing?
We've been at this same point since the 1970's, no matter how many credible sources come out:
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/14/archives/ufo-files-the-untold-story.html
I think the better question might be why wouldn't they come here? Remember, the universe is something like 13 billion years old. What if there are civilizations out there that are millions, even likely billions of years in advance of us? Just ponder what we have done in the last 200 years of so. Life on other planets could very well be the norm instead of a rare event.aTmAg said:
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
Some believe that once we split the atom and set off the first atomic bomb, that sent out a memo or sorts. Plausible given all the reported et craft "crashes" in New Mexico back in the '40s. Yeah, I might want to investigate a developing species that just accomplished that. Its documented that "they" rendered our nuclear armed ICBM's launchable back in the '60's. Obvious, at some of these cultures have our best interest at heart. Our planet is highly valued from what I hear.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
Quote:
Its documented that "they" rendered our nuclear armed ICBM's launchable back in the '60's
That's unfortunate, but A) radio is becoming more and more irrelevant by the day (I can't remember the last time I listened to an actual radio DJ or sports talk radio), and B) the the tide and tone is otherwise starting to change. The 60 Minutes piece was covered by all three prime time hosts on CNN last night, in serious fashion, one with follow-up interviews/talking heads, and apparently Anderson Cooper covered it for a second night in a row tonight. Then, Obama was on James Corden last night and basically said this sh*t is happening, we need to pay attention, etc. If everyone could please spare us the anti-CNN/Obama rhetoric, the simple fact that a former POTUS is on late night television not at all discounting this stuff is pretty wild...
🚨 Obama has entered the UFO chat. “We can’t explain how they moved... their trajectory...” https://t.co/i54wW8L2A4
— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBC) May 18, 2021
Why wouldn't they come here, you ask? Because they know nothing about us since information (including radiation from nuclear bombs) cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Only civilizations within a 100 or so light years would even know we exist at all. Chances of any being that close is about as close to zero as it can get.Spyderman said:I think the better question might be why wouldn't they come here? Remember, the universe is something like 13 billion years old. What if there are civilizations out there that are millions, even likely billions of years in advance of us? Just ponder what we have done in the last 200 years of so. Life on other planets could very well be the norm instead of a rare event.aTmAg said:
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
Some believe that once we split the atom and set off the first atomic bomb, that sent out a memo or sorts. Plausible given all the reported et craft "crashes" in New Mexico back in the '40s. Yeah, I might want to investigate a developing species that just accomplished that. Its documented that "they" rendered our nuclear armed ICBM's launchable back in the '60's. Obvious, at some of these cultures have our best interest at heart. Our planet is highly valued from what I hear.
That's true Harry, but you hear less giggling by the day. The fact that the subject is even being mentioned in the MSM is note worthy. The giggling hivemind if you will. I will laugh simply because that's what we are conditioned to do. Little green men etc.Harry Lime said:
I was flipping thru the radio on the road today, and stopped on a "sports" talk show from Houston with hosts who love to take shots at conservative politicians. So they started in on Marco Rubio and his comments about taking these observations seriously in light of the upcoming Senate report. Naturally, they started mocking him and going off on tangents to make it all seem absurd. They thought it would be hilarious if this came up when ran for office again.
Who needs a government cover-up when so many media wise asses are ready to make a joke of the whole thing?
We've been at this same point since the 1970's, no matter how many credible sources come out:
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/14/archives/ufo-files-the-untold-story.html
Its been said that the giggling is some some of psychological defense mechanism. I honestly believe the giggling is about to come to a halt. One of the NYT articles quotes a couple of people talking about the existence of et craft and materials in our possession. Former employees of defense contractors confirm this. I don't think its a question of if...its more how do we react/respond..where to next?
I'd bet the ancient Egyptians didn't giggle too much along with countless other ancient cultures.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
I'd say they VERY much about us. What if they were in the "neighborhood" back on July 16, 1945? Some believe or know that they had a great deal to do with our very existence. This is where it gets somewhat disturbing I suppose. You need to remember that we are not dealing with just a single species etc. According to OUR science.. There is so much we don't know in terms of science and especially physics. Many of these species are HIGHLY psychic and telepathic. Supposedly, this is how they communicate with each other and yes, even us. My guess is that when a thermonuclear device is set off, they themselves pick up on it. Instantaneously, regardless of how many light years they are from us. Not a guess really, there are those who know this supposedly. Around 40% of all these alleged abductions involve some sort of mental, telepathic communication. Essentially most the communication centers around 2 issues:aTmAg said:Why wouldn't they come here, you ask? Because they know nothing about us since information (including radiation from nuclear bombs) cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Only civilizations within a 100 or so light years would even know we exist at all. Chances of any being that close is about as close to zero as it can get.Spyderman said:I think the better question might be why wouldn't they come here? Remember, the universe is something like 13 billion years old. What if there are civilizations out there that are millions, even likely billions of years in advance of us? Just ponder what we have done in the last 200 years of so. Life on other planets could very well be the norm instead of a rare event.aTmAg said:
Our radio emissions have only reached out to 120 light years away so far. That is only about 10% of THICKNESS of the milky way galaxy and .1% of it's width. Only about 15,000 stars have received our transmissions which is about 0.000005% of them within our galaxy alone). The chances of aliens being within that sphere AND having the technology to reach us within that time frame is pretty much zero.
So how would aliens know to come here of all places? That's like Earth being barren of all life, except for one ant hill somewhere. How would we know where to go to find those ants?
Some believe that once we split the atom and set off the first atomic bomb, that sent out a memo or sorts. Plausible given all the reported et craft "crashes" in New Mexico back in the '40s. Yeah, I might want to investigate a developing species that just accomplished that. Its documented that "they" rendered our nuclear armed ICBM's launchable back in the '60's. Obvious, at some of these cultures have our best interest at heart. Our planet is highly valued from what I hear.
1) We need to put away our nuclear devices and quit testing or using them.
2) We are screwing up this planets environment.
both are warnings
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
This thread is entertainment, alright.
"It just disappeared"
— CNN (@CNN) May 19, 2021
Navy Lt. Commander Alex Dietrich, a veteran combat pilot, discusses her report about something that was spotted off the coast of San Diego in 2004. https://t.co/s7Ceb6wrxb pic.twitter.com/UwbZXqME23
Southlake said:
Sorry, didn't realize this thread would be so interesting. And it's so nice to be loved...
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
Keep these stories coming!!! You could be totally lying, but I'm all in with more stuff like this!!!
Maybe we can join up at one of the events sometime. There are photos out there. Personal testimonies. I certainly don't understand consciousness either. Not even sure what it means. Always been a nuts and bolts sorta person. Maybe Steven has assembled some of those nuts and bolts..I dunno. Clearly, in my mind, something is going on. Like remote viewing. Haven't to foggiest idea how it works. All I know is that our CIA was/is heavily involved in its usage. There is no doubt something to it. Got to be a nuts and bolts part of it IMO. We just don't/can't recognize it. Yet..Farsight Institute in Atlanta has done some amazing projects using this technique. From the origin of the Wuhan virus, to Roswell, to the construction of the pyramids very compelling data.Mr President Elect said:There is a lot about consiousness that we don't understand, so I don't totally dismiss it, but it is such an extraordinary claim that I am going to need some definitive proof that it actually works before I go down that rabbit hole. Not that it kind of works some of the time... so is it possible, but they just really suck at it? Okay get better at it and then I'll pay attention.Spyderman said:Some that research etc. the subject have a similar take on Steven Greer. Not sure how close you follow the subject, but curious on your take? Its the SETI folk that get a big NOPE from me.Mr President Elect said:
Steven Grier is one of the guys in the community that if I see he is apart of it, I avoid or turn it off.
gracias
As far as Greer himself, he just mentions that he is a doctor way too much and just screams narcissist. He charges people to meditate in the dessert to call upon the aliens, again I'm not totally dismissive of the possibilty although I think it is extremely unlikely, but I am not going to waste my time following or listening to him until he brings substantial proof that it works.
Really admire Greer in terms of his contribution to the disclosure process. The Conference he organized back in 2001 (couple of months before 9/11) put the gov on the clock I think.Until I attend one of the CE5 events, I will hold off judgement.
Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon
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An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.
TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
Southlake said:
Sorry, didn't realize this thread would be so interesting. And it's so nice to be loved...
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
Somehow missed this earlier. Incredible stuff, and thanks for sharing. Love hearing reports like this.
Too bad it was all merely swamp gas, rainbow sparkles, the moon reflecting off a blimp, or birds with laser pointers or whatever and there's absolutely no way you could have seen what you know you actually saw./TexAgs
Why do you think ETs haven't made themselves publicly known to share their galactic wisdom about the dangers of nuclear weapons or harming the environment?
TCTTS said:Southlake said:
Sorry, didn't realize this thread would be so interesting. And it's so nice to be loved...
Most of the unexplained stuff I've seen has been over the North Atlantic, of course I mostly fly over the Atlantic to Europe but the Navy has a lot of test facilities on the Northeast Coast.
The next amount of stuff has been in Northern Arizona and Nevada but then again: lists of flight testing going on.
First major thing I saw was when I was flying a T-38 west of Phoenix around 20 thousand feet. Two white aircraft shot out about 5 thousand feet under me and pulled up about a half mile to my right. I asked ATC what they were and Albuquerque Center said they had no flight plan on them. They stayed to my right for about 30 seconds and then went straight up and whoosh, they were gone in 2 seconds. I was cruising at .97 Mach and they left me standing still. Strange thing was that they had no wings. Just a round shape like a sphere, not a saucer.
Through the years I've seen a lot of strange lights flying in vertical patterns that no jet could fly. And way too fast for a helicopter. Most of the time this was just off the NE coast or Western deserts. I always assumed these were some kind of high performance drones, but never knew for sure. Each time I asked ATC, they never knew nor had an active flight plan for a plane in that area.
But the strangest by far was on a clear night halfway between LA and Honolulu. A bright white sphere was flying above us and in an instant shot down to the surface and disappeared. We thought it actually crashed into the water. I guessed to went from 50 thousand feet to the surface in 3 seconds. But a few moments later, it reappeared in the same spot and shot straight up and stopped above us and to the right about 3 miles. It stopped, hovered and then accelerated straight up and out of sight.
I have no idea what these aircraft were. Maybe some advanced drone technology? Maybe an ET?
I'd imagine if they were hostile that we'd know by now.
Maybe it's in their Prime Directive not to mess with other civilizations. Simply knowing there was intelligent superior life elsewhere would shake the very core of all human belief.
But, yeah, it pretty cool to see that stuff.
Somehow missed this earlier. Incredible stuff, and thanks for sharing. Love hearing reports like this.
Too bad it was all merely swamp gas, rainbow sparkles, the moon reflecting off a blimp, or birds with laser pointers or whatever and there's absolutely no way you could have seen what you know you actually saw./TexAgs
No no. The correct answer is weather balloons. They were all weather balloons.
Seriously, those are awesome stories. Something is up there, I'd love to know what it is. Thanks for sharing.
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Something is up there, I'd love to know what it is.
That's my attitude. I don't necessarily think it's aliens or paranormal, but there is something that people are seeing.
Fair enough.Sea Speed said:
This thread is entertainment, alright.
But let's be honest. This has moved in to the realm of some folks that really are following this sh** and are well sourced on the topic.
I am not one of them. This is above my pay grade.
This is all I ask of anyone. We don't have to go so far as "aliens" (even though that's admittedly where I'm at), rather just an admission that this is a *real* phenomenon; that our pilots (and many others) are, in fact, seeing and interacting with UAPs displaying technology far beyond what we (publicly) have now. I totally get not jumping straight to E.T.s. The people who drive me nuts are the ones who stubbornly jump to the opposite conclusion, who say this is all hallucinations or misidentification of crafts or buggy radar systems, who think there can't possibly be a reality beyond the one we know right now, so early, relatively speaking, in our technological development and understanding of the universe, consciousness, etc.
It really does feel like the national conversation has changed completely in the last 48 hours.
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