Ag with kids said:GAC06 said:
Overtures? Like a symphony?
Do I need to buy you a dictionary that has more than one entry for each word?
Duh....
KentK93 said:
This is worth a read because he makes a lot of points I haven't seen in other post on this matter:
From Winston Marshall:
The Greenland issue has exposed two fundamental misconceptions widely held by Europeans elites
1. That the rules based world order ever existed.
No. It was only ever a mirage, American might and money kept Europe afloat
2. It is America causing the "turbulence" and threatening world stability.
No. America is in a Thucydides Trap. The threat to the world is China. U.S. are acting in response.
carl spacklers hat said:Ag with kids said:GAC06 said:
Overtures? Like a symphony?
Do I need to buy you a dictionary that has more than one entry for each word?
Duh....
Marines prefer to speak in gunts and clicks, so...
There is zero debate as to Greenland's strategic value, both economically and militarily. IMO, the reason Trump immediately pivoted to Greenland after the Venezuela action was to sent a clear message to China - that the Western Hemisphere is America's backyard, and you're not welcome in it.
fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
Ellis Wyatt said:KentK93 said:
This is worth a read because he makes a lot of points I haven't seen in other post on this matter:
From Winston Marshall:
The Greenland issue has exposed two fundamental misconceptions widely held by Europeans elites
1. That the rules based world order ever existed.
No. It was only ever a mirage, American might and money kept Europe afloat
2. It is America causing the "turbulence" and threatening world stability.
No. America is in a Thucydides Trap. The threat to the world is China. U.S. are acting in response.
This stuff isn't difficult to understand. People just have to remove their emotions and think about the situation with their brains. Instead, some people hyperventilate when they hear the name "Trump." Some people think that the Europe of today is the Europe of 1950.
We are essentially in geopolitics alone. If we don't look out for our own interests, no one else will. We have financially supported Europe for 80 years. It makes no sense for us whatsoever. We have to either force Europe to act to protect itself or we have to act in our own interests. Those are our choices.
HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
YouBet said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Yes. Maybe everyone will step back from the cliff now.
ETFan said:Trump: "We're also the most secure. As an example, Iceland, without tariffs they wouldn't even be talking to us about it. So we'll see what happens." pic.twitter.com/YTB5xUH3vA
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 20, 2026
Greenland or Iceland? Who knows.
Trump appears to be repeatedly mixing up Greenland and Iceland during his speech at Davos. pic.twitter.com/kkwXdX6NQs
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) January 21, 2026
ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
The EU has proved to be not as friendly as 1951, the less control or involvement in Greenland the better. UK threatening Americans and American businesses. That's not too friendly.
HTownAg98 said:ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
The EU has proved to be not as friendly as 1951, the less control or involvement in Greenland the better. UK threatening Americans and American businesses. That's not too friendly.
Well thank God our treaty is with the Danes and not the Brits.
Logos Stick said:YouBet said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Yes. Maybe everyone will step back from the cliff now.
You're such an optimist. These people believe Trump wants to be dictator and run for anther term.
HTownAg98 said:
Can't wait until he announces we're opening a base in Kirkjubaejarklaustur.
ETFan said:ETFan said:Trump: "We're also the most secure. As an example, Iceland, without tariffs they wouldn't even be talking to us about it. So we'll see what happens." pic.twitter.com/YTB5xUH3vA
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 20, 2026
Greenland or Iceland? Who knows.Trump appears to be repeatedly mixing up Greenland and Iceland during his speech at Davos. pic.twitter.com/kkwXdX6NQs
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) January 21, 2026
Greenland or Iceland? Who knows.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
The EU has proved to be not as friendly as 1951, the less control or involvement in Greenland the better. UK threatening Americans and American businesses. That's not too friendly.
Well thank God our treaty is with the Danes and not the Brits.
Speaking on Europe as a whole, the Danes, Brits, French, etc. seem pretty lock step in thinking.
txwxman said:Logos Stick said:YouBet said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Yes. Maybe everyone will step back from the cliff now.
You're such an optimist. These people believe Trump wants to be dictator and run for anther term.
Show the libs this speech, and it will be obvious trump is not capable of serving a third term.
Logos Stick said:YouBet said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Yes. Maybe everyone will step back from the cliff now.
You're such an optimist. These people believe Trump wants to be dictator and run for anther term.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Kansas Kid said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
For those that insisted yesterday the market sell off yesterday was strictly because of the Japanese debt issues, please explain why the market reversed sharply after this announcement by Trump?
PS. I agree the situation in Japan added to the sell off but I believe the threat of new tariffs was the bigger driver just like it was after Liberation day.
Logos Stick said:YouBet said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
Yes. Maybe everyone will step back from the cliff now.
You're such an optimist. These people believe Trump wants to be dictator and run for anther term.
ETFan said:ETFan said:Trump: "We're also the most secure. As an example, Iceland, without tariffs they wouldn't even be talking to us about it. So we'll see what happens." pic.twitter.com/YTB5xUH3vA
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 20, 2026
Greenland or Iceland? Who knows.Trump appears to be repeatedly mixing up Greenland and Iceland during his speech at Davos. pic.twitter.com/kkwXdX6NQs
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) January 21, 2026
Greenland or Iceland? Who knows.
HTownAg98 said:ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:ShaggySLC said:HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
The EU has proved to be not as friendly as 1951, the less control or involvement in Greenland the better. UK threatening Americans and American businesses. That's not too friendly.
Well thank God our treaty is with the Danes and not the Brits.
Speaking on Europe as a whole, the Danes, Brits, French, etc. seem pretty lock step in thinking.
So what happens if they decide to renege on the deal (mind you, they've shown zero interest in doing that)? You think they're going to stop us from enforcing a treaty we agreed to?
HTownAg98 said:fc2112 said:
Since the Arctic Ocean is now becoming navigable, the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be overstated.
It is BY FAR the quickest route from China to Europe. It is most of Russia's coastline.
And there's two ways in and out - right by Alaska and right by - Greenland.
If only there was a treaty signed with Denmark and The United States in 1951 that allows the US to do exactly this.
HTownAg98 said:
So just because it's old and times may have changed, that makes a difference? We can, and will enforce this treaty if we want to. And no one is stopping us. Which is why this whole "we need Greenland" thing is so stupid.
BREAKING: European Parliament halts work on US trade deal in response to Trump Greenland push pic.twitter.com/Nxb5RszWjn
— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 21, 2026
Quote:
This assumes Europe has no power or control.
Logos Stick said:
You're such an optimist. These people believe Trump wants to be dictator and run for anther term.
Kansas Kid said:Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Trump finally said out loud in Davos and ruled out use of force and taking of Greenland so all the pearl clutching pantywaists can go back to their corner and be quiet.
For those that insisted yesterday the market sell off yesterday was strictly because of the Japanese debt issues, please explain why the market reversed sharply after this announcement by Trump?
PS. I agree the situation in Japan added to the sell off but I believe the threat of new tariffs was the bigger driver just like it was after Liberation day.
Trump is now confusing Greenland and Iceland: "They're not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you. Our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland. So Iceland has already cost us a lot of money." pic.twitter.com/Iu9CI6M2ku
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 21, 2026
HTownAg98 said:
So just because it's old and times may have changed, that makes a difference?
