Is Greenland next?

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nortex97
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It's got to be the US looking out for the US. Clearly it won't be the Europeans, Canadians, or anyone else.

And those who laugh off Chinese interests in places like Greenland, Denmark (Maersk), VZ, Panama, and Cuba etc. are not paying any attention (or are being dishonest) imho.

Of course, no one could have expected Obama or Biden to look out for US interests. Hillary Clinton, or John F Kerry (who served in Vietnam)? LOL.
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We could write a million dollar check to each and every citizen of Greenland for a messily $57B. We're going to buy the ***** and turn it into Fort Greenland.
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The quislings are squealing.

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That's my point . If it was a US territory the US would get that revenue and there has been next to zero development under Danish control. I'm not saying I know exploration and development would happen if Greenland were under US Control because I don't know the economics of any of it but that would be a potential reason that the US would want it irrespective of who developed it (US companies or otherwise).
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Sounds like the Danes should be the one's having "No Kings" rallies .
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halfastros81 said:

Maybe true but who would get the royalties on minerals produced /mined and taxes on the economic activity ? I'm not saying that's a major driver but it is a consideration .


American companies do business and pay taxes in lots of countries. I think nobody is mining in Greenland because it's a huge PITA to get there and set up an operation (no roads, no trains, no people, no big port, horrible weather, etc), and the same resources are far more easily accessible in other places.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

halfastros81 said:

Maybe true but who would get the royalties on minerals produced /mined and taxes on the economic activity ? I'm not saying that's a major driver but it is a consideration .


American companies do business and pay taxes in lots of countries. I think nobody is mining in Greenland because it's a huge PITA to get there and set up an operation (no roads, no trains, no people, no big port, horrible weather, etc), and the same resources are far more easily accessible in other places.

Danes may control it but the only thing they've done is sterilize the locals and harvest some fish.
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The controlling government gets royalties off of leases and production on public lands and they also get tax revenue off the related economic activity .
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Instead of all the buster that we have to control Greenland, if it's about national security, how about we get the Danes and the Greenlanders to sign a treaty allowing us to build various free lease military bases in Greenland away from the local population?

We accomplish our goal of securing Greenland from Russian or Chinese aggression, and with so much unpopulated land mass, the bases could be located where the Greenlanders don't even notice they are there.
Ellis Wyatt
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Some of you aren't paying attention. Europe is collapsing. The UK is cancelling freedom. We cannot depend on these countries that aren't even capable of defending themselves. They are only free because of the US and they don't give a **** about us.
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Agree nortex97.

Also you should read this article:

Why Trump Will Get Greenland

The last paragraphs
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DevilD77 said:

Instead of all the buster that we have to control Greenland, if it's about national security, how about we get the Danes and the Greenlanders to sign a treaty allowing us to build various free lease military bases in Greenland away from the local population?

We accomplish our goal of securing Greenland from Russian or Chinese aggression, and with so much unpopulated land mass, the bases could be located where the Greenlanders don't even notice they are there.


Whoa what are you some kind of Marxist?
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GAC06 said:

DevilD77 said:

Instead of all the buster that we have to control Greenland, if it's about national security, how about we get the Danes and the Greenlanders to sign a treaty allowing us to build various free lease military bases in Greenland away from the local population?

We accomplish our goal of securing Greenland from Russian or Chinese aggression, and with so much unpopulated land mass, the bases could be located where the Greenlanders don't even notice they are there.


Whoa what are you some kind of Marxist?


Probably not a Marxist but certainly falling under the spell of the cultural Marxist's gaslighting is likely. Sadly much of this gaslighting is propagated by army and navy intelligence officers.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Kansas Kid said:

If there was an island to take over for national security, it is without a doubt Cuba. It would be easy to take, it has massive influence over our trade routes in and out of the Gulf, it sits 90 miles off our coast and it has been an enemy for most of Texags poster's lives.

How is Cuba's location strategic in regards to Russia or China?

Europe is collapsing. Marxists and Muslims are taking over. Who is looking out for the US?

Do you need a history lesson?

Greenland is controlled by an ally and has been very friendly with the US since WWII. The other has been a major thorn in our side, Communist country that has been a base for spying, nukes, adversarial troops and other nefarious activities for around 80 years.
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Can we play a weekly NFL and college football game there? Let's get the locals into our sport.

Can we get Iceland to provide the cheerleaders?
HoustonAggie11
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No one in the West cared about Greenland till Trump....He's playing the Danes and EU for fools.
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None of this sounds like a sane President:

Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a 'right of ownership' anyway? There are no written documents, it's only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT
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DevilD77 said:

Instead of all the buster that we have to control Greenland, if it's about national security, how about we get the Danes and the Greenlanders to sign a treaty allowing us to build various free lease military bases in Greenland away from the local population?

We accomplish our goal of securing Greenland from Russian or Chinese aggression, and with so much unpopulated land mass, the bases could be located where the Greenlanders don't even notice they are there.

Could this perhaps be an end goal of negotiation?
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GAC06
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If there was an imminent threat of Russia or China seizing Greenland (there isn't), our NATO ally would be happy to have us help them defend it. That's not enough for the stable genius apparently.
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Is Trump concerned about Russia and China taking over it? Or is it more about them using their air space?
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GAC06 said:

If there was an imminent threat of Russia or China seizing Greenland (there isn't), our NATO ally would be happy to have us help them defend it. That's not enough for the stable genius apparently.

Ummm...

China and Russia have both made overtures towards Greenland.

I guess, if it's not "imminent" then that's ok??


BTW, a number of our NATO allies were demanding that we help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. And at the same time, they were purchasing Russian fuel...

That's a huge **** you to the US...



I'm not a Trump apologist...

But, I'm also not a Euro apologist...
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GAC06
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Overtures? Like a symphony?
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GAC06 said:

Overtures? Like a symphony?

Do I need to buy you a dictionary that has more than one entry for each word?

Duh....
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GAC06
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Thinking that Denmark is/was on the verge of selling Greenland to China or Russia is a level of delusion I can't fix with facts, so I won't try.
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GAC06 said:

Thinking that Denmark is/was on the verge of selling Greenland to China or Russia is a level of delusion I can't fix with facts, so I won't try.

I never said that.

Go back and read the definition of overture...I gave you a link to the definition...
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GAC06
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I'd rather read a shred of evidence backing up your claim
nortex97
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Trump also just re-posted this:

I don't think he fully agrees with things he reposts necessarily, but I don't think he's real enamored with the Eurocrats right now, let alone the feckless UN. The video I linked to earlier clearly shows circa 2023 the Chinese infiltration into Greenland, similar to what they were doing in South America/Panama etc.

The NYT reports today (or lies, whatever) that the Pentagon has yet to be asked about military options to take Greenland. Then there is this;

nortex97
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French now want to do exercises in Greenland, and Bessemer mocked Macron as his budget is 'in shambles' and maybe should focus on other matters.

About right.
Logos Stick
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Kansas Kid said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Kansas Kid said:

If there was an island to take over for national security, it is without a doubt Cuba. It would be easy to take, it has massive influence over our trade routes in and out of the Gulf, it sits 90 miles off our coast and it has been an enemy for most of Texags poster's lives.

How is Cuba's location strategic in regards to Russia or China?

Europe is collapsing. Marxists and Muslims are taking over. Who is looking out for the US?

Do you need a history lesson?

Greenland is controlled by an ally and has been very friendly with the US since WWII. The other has been a major thorn in our side, Communist country that has been a base for spying, nukes, adversarial troops and other nefarious activities for around 80 years.


I guess you missed the part where he said Marxists and Muslims are taking over Europe.
Logos Stick
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GAC06 said:

Thinking that Denmark is/was on the verge of selling Greenland to China or Russia is a level of delusion I can't fix with facts, so I won't try.


Epic strawman. Nice.

as far as China, here's an example.... (I know you don't get this, but every Chinese company is an extension of the Chinese government):

in 2016 Shenghe Resources Holding Co., a Shanghai-listed Chinese company specializing in rare earth processing and supply chains, acquired a 12.5% equity stake in Greenland Minerals Ltd. This is one of the world's largest undeveloped rare earth element (REE) deposits, located in southern Greenland near Narsaq. The site also contains uranium, making it strategically vital for green tech (e.g., batteries, magnets) and nuclear energy.

and this:

China's Arctic Policy, released by the State Council Information Office on January 26, 2018. It's China's first comprehensive policy statement on the Arctic, outlining its strategic interests, principles, and plans for engagement in the region. At about 6,000 words, it positions China as a major player in Arctic affairs despite lacking territorial claims, emphasizing multilateralism, sustainability, and economic integration. The paper was issued amid growing global attention to Arctic melting, which opens new shipping routes and resource opportunities, and reflects China's broader "Belt and Road Initiative" (BRI) ambitions.



We need to take Greenland and take it yesterday!
Ellis Wyatt
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I don't need a history lesson. My eyes see just fine. Europe is not a particularly good ally at this point. They have prioritized socialism way before their own security. Our security isn't on their radar in the least.

America's allegiance is to her own citizens, not the world.
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Imagine if Europe cared about their own citizens as much as they virtue signal that they care about Greenland.
Ellis Wyatt
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GAC06 said:

Thinking that Denmark is/was on the verge of selling Greenland to China or Russia is a level of delusion I can't fix with facts, so I won't try.
True. It would be folly to believe China wanted the Panama Canal, too.

Wait…
KentK93
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This is worth a read because he makes a lot of points I haven't seen in other post on this matter:

From Winston Marshall:

The Greenland issue has exposed two fundamental misconceptions widely held by Europeans elites

1. That the rules based world order ever existed.

No. It was only ever a mirage, American might and money kept Europe afloat

2. It is America causing the "turbulence" and threatening world stability.

No. America is in a Thucydides Trap. The threat to the world is China. U.S. are acting in response.

This article is good

bobbranco
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GAC06 said:

I'd rather read a shred of evidence backing up your claim


Yet your newspeak is based on reality?
 
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