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The expectation was likely that this would be over by now.
Where and when did anyone in the administration ever say this?
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Where and when did anyone in the administration ever say this?
Turns out temu rockets, missles and radar are maybe not the highest quality, but you do get a bang for the buck
ErnestEndeavor said:
They said from the outset they expected it would be a three to four week operation.
Actually, they said it would be 4-5 weeks and would go longer if necessary. I suspect the max on "go longer" is 60 days since that triggers Congressional action.
Sid Farkas said:Raiderjay said:The Fall Guy said:
Trump says only way to end is Unconditional surrender
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-there-will-be-no-deal-with-iran-except-unconditional-surrender/
Master class on how to run a war campaign:
- overwhelming force
- decapitate the head
- give no quarter
- win the support of the populous
- Unconditional surrender
The expectation was likely that this would be over by now. Seems like Trump and the Israelis are on already on Plan B,
Iran's playbook is to take it on the chin but hold out...and turn it into an Afghanistan.
I haven't checked Kalshi yet this morning, but It'll be interesting to see which way this is headed.
Thats never been the case. Ever. They always said weeks, not days.
aggiehawg said:TRM said:BREAKING: China secretly supplied 50 CM-302 supersonic anti-ship missiles to Iran. During the ongoing war, Iran reportedly launched them, but none hit their targets, either intercepted by the U.S. Navy or failing mid-flight due to technical issues. Chines equipments failing again pic.twitter.com/Om75qY3uSJ
— Baba Banaras™ (@RealBababanaras) March 6, 2026
As we have seen, China's reverse engineering only gets them so far. Yet they still believe in quantity over quality.
I actually think that isn't a bad strategy agaisnt modern defense systems. You send a massive wave of drones and missiles at a target hoping to overwhelm the system in hopes that some get through. It only takes one.
Iran said they hit a US oil tanker. I saw earlier a tugboat was hit.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-tv-reports-fire-sparked-on-ship-struck-by-drone-in-strait-of-hormuz/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-tv-reports-fire-sparked-on-ship-struck-by-drone-in-strait-of-hormuz/
I don't remember where I read it, but a couple of weeks ago I read an analysis that said that China would use an American war against Iran as a lab experiment to test its anti-ship missiles.
Either the missiles would get through and sink some ships (good for China and an attack on Taiwan)
or
the missiles would be shot down and China would learn that and work on fixing the problem (good for China and an attack on Taiwan).
Either the missiles would get through and sink some ships (good for China and an attack on Taiwan)
or
the missiles would be shot down and China would learn that and work on fixing the problem (good for China and an attack on Taiwan).
In the second scenario, the refit and retool takes time. during that time they are going to face further erosion of allies and resources. Hopefully it allows us to shore up our weaknesses and we spend the time uncoupling ourselves as much as possible from China
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I don't remember where I read it, but a couple of weeks ago I read an analysis that said that China would use an American war against Iran as a lab experiment to test its anti-ship missiles.
We would also look at how to improve and anticipate changes China will make.
YouBet said:ErnestEndeavor said:
They said from the outset they expected it would be a three to four week operation.
Actually, they said it would be 4-5 weeks and would go longer if necessary. I suspect the max on "go longer" is 60 days since that triggers Congressional action.
I really see this being wrapped up on the USA side one week from now.
a total of not even two weeks "war"
the USAF is literally running out of targets to hit.
the Israelis will hopefully stick around over the skies of Teheran and use drones to kill every moving IRGC moped
akm91 said:Quote:
I don't remember where I read it, but a couple of weeks ago I read an analysis that said that China would use an American war against Iran as a lab experiment to test its anti-ship missiles.
We would also look at how to improve and anticipate changes China will make.
the entire world sees what American and Israeli defense technology is doing
with literally the ONLY planes shot down being from our own side-
(@#$#@ Kuwait!)
Rubio says several more weeks.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-tv-reports-fire-sparked-on-ship-struck-by-drone-in-strait-of-hormuz/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-tv-reports-fire-sparked-on-ship-struck-by-drone-in-strait-of-hormuz/
Countries suddenly want to capitalize on Ukraine's hard-earned combat expertise.
"Various countries, including the United States, have approached Ukraine for help in defending against the Iranian drones, Zelenskyy said late Wednesday. He said he has spoken in recent days with the leaders of the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait about possible cooperation."
DRONES
"Various countries, including the United States, have approached Ukraine for help in defending against the Iranian drones, Zelenskyy said late Wednesday. He said he has spoken in recent days with the leaders of the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait about possible cooperation."
DRONES
LMCane said:
the Israelis will hopefully stick around over the skies of Teheran and use drones to kill every moving IRGC moped
Really hoping we get some tech soon for loitering drone carriers. Stay up in the air surveying the area, and launch one-way small suicide drones to take out any bad guys you see moving around. Cheap and fast response times.
China hasn't battle field tested anything for 50 plus years. You can see how quickly the battlefield changes from our Iraq and Afghanistan wars to what's going on in Ukraine. We are behind on the drone war front. This will provide us the opportunity to catch up. Which part of me wonders if this wasn't an added reason to do this Iran war. But China is so far behind. The idea of them be able to Taiwan is an absurdity to me.
LMCane said:akm91 said:Quote:
I don't remember where I read it, but a couple of weeks ago I read an analysis that said that China would use an American war against Iran as a lab experiment to test its anti-ship missiles.
We would also look at how to improve and anticipate changes China will make.
the entire world sees what American and Israeli defense technology is doing
with literally the ONLY planes shot down being from our own side-
(@#$#@ Kuwait!)
It truly is remarkable, especially given the scale of the operation. Between what our military has done in Venezuela and Iran, our enemies would do well to leave us alone. And when Trump hints at something, they should listen.
Possibly preparing for an Iranian dying dog attack?
Trump:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 6, 2026
"We are moving thousands of people out of various Countries throughout the Middle East. It is being done quietly, but seamlessly. The State Department, under Secretary Marco Rubio, is doing a great job!" pic.twitter.com/R2dodnEigP
I've heard there's stuff in development to launch a bunch of drones out of the back of a plane that the drones then fly to the target area. The drones can be run their own ai programs searching for targets. Completely disconnected from any other input so they can't be jammed or hacked.
I think militarily speaking what we are seeing is that they would not survive the transit over the straight to get to Taiwan. I am unsure if they have the sea-lift capabilities to land enough troops and equipment in the first place. But it has been proven that their anti-missile/air systems do not work. So even if they did have the ability to move all those guys, they'd quickly become dead in the water.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
I keep seeing this assertion that we're lagging in drone tech. This might have been true a few years ago, but it isn't now. We took Iran's infamous Shahed drone, reengineered it with better network technology and the ability to share data between drones, and made it less expensive and more effective.Yukon Cornelius said:
China hasn't battle field tested anything for 50 plus years. You can see how quickly the battlefield changes from our Iraq and Afghanistan wars to what's going on in Ukraine. We are behind on the drone war front. This will provide us the opportunity to catch up. Which part of me wonders if this wasn't an added reason to do this Iran war. But China is so far behind. The idea of them be able to Taiwan is an absurdity to me.
Yukon Cornelius said:
I've heard there's stuff in development to launch a bunch of drones out of the back of a plane that the drones then fly to the target area. The drones can be run their own ai programs searching for targets. Completely disconnected from any other input so they can't be jammed or hacked.
That's another step towards self-aware nanobot death swarms. Fun.
Gaeilge said:
Possibly preparing for an Iranian dying dog attack?Trump:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 6, 2026
"We are moving thousands of people out of various Countries throughout the Middle East. It is being done quietly, but seamlessly. The State Department, under Secretary Marco Rubio, is doing a great job!" pic.twitter.com/R2dodnEigP
So we are helping civilians and others get out. Which was one of the rage bait talking points previously.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
javajaws said:LMCane said:
the Israelis will hopefully stick around over the skies of Teheran and use drones to kill every moving IRGC moped
Really hoping we get some tech soon for loitering drone carriers. Stay up in the air surveying the area, and launch one-way small suicide drones to take out any bad guys you see moving around. Cheap and fast response times.
considering the IDF literally does that all day every day over Khan Yunis and the entire Gaza Strip for the past two years
I think they know what they are doing.
the only question is do their UAV have the range- which is likely why Iran fired missiles at neighboring Azerbaijan
Ya. They wouldn't do very well in any attempt. Maybe overtime with volume but the first encounters would be disastrous for them.
G Martin 87 said:I keep seeing this assertion that we're lagging in drone tech. This might have been true a few years ago, but it isn't now. We took Iran's infamous Shahed drone, reengineered it with better network technology and the ability to share data between drones, and made it less expensive and more effective.Yukon Cornelius said:
China hasn't battle field tested anything for 50 plus years. You can see how quickly the battlefield changes from our Iraq and Afghanistan wars to what's going on in Ukraine. We are behind on the drone war front. This will provide us the opportunity to catch up. Which part of me wonders if this wasn't an added reason to do this Iran war. But China is so far behind. The idea of them be able to Taiwan is an absurdity to me.
We had the drone tech. We had the bad a$$ expensive ones and we now have the cheaper cost effective ones.
It's the counter drone tech that's mostly the concern.
It's really hard to stop cheap drones, like Shahid in a cost-effective manner
That's an improvement over Iran on one of their drones. But we are lacking the ability to consistently completely shutdown in coming drones. And if you compare to Ukraine war we are definitely behind. What's going on there is quite more difficult than what Iran is doing. It's why we are seeking ukraines help. We are playing catch up. That's to be expected.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iraq-kurds-say-country-not-a-launchpad-against-neighbours/
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Iraq says their country is not a launchpad for an invasion.
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Iraq says their country is not a launchpad for an invasion.
Day 8 👇
— World Insights (@World_Insights1) March 6, 2026
Iran Missile launches during the first 8 days of conflict:
🚀 Ballistic Missiles:
🔴 Day 1 — 350
🔴 Day 2 — 175
🔴 Day 3 — 120
🔴 Day 4 — 50
🔴 Day 5 — 40
🔴 Day 6 — 32
🔴 Day 7 — 28
🔴 Day 8 — 15
🛸 Drone Swarms:
🟢 Day 1 — 294
🟢 Day 2 — 541
🟢 Day 3 — 200
🟢 Day 4… pic.twitter.com/SmSk8dWkWL
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Day 8
Iran Missile launches during the first 8 days of conflict:
Ballistic Missiles:
Day 1 350
Day 2 175
Day 3 120
Day 4 50
Day 5 40
Day 6 32
Day 7 28
Day 8 15
Drone Swarms:
Day 1 294
Day 2 541
Day 3 200
Day 4 85
Day 5 45
Day 6 38
Day 7 30
Day 8 12
Running out of ammo or launchers being destroyed. Either way, this seems optimistic and promising on their ability to continue strikes.
Laser defense and the phalanx type area defense weapons are quickly coming online to help.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
AgBQ-00 said:
Laser defense and the phalanx type area defense weapons are quickly coming online to help.
I don't know about lasers, but phalanx is a point defense weapon good to protect high value targets. Area defense like entire cities is much harder. Israel manages it a tremendous expense only because they are bank rolled by us and because it's a very small nation.
It doesn't mean we are doomed. We just don't have a solution yet.
deddog said:G Martin 87 said:Yukon Cornelius said:
China hasn't battle field tested anything for 50 plus years. You can see how quickly the battlefield changes from our Iraq and Afghanistan wars to what's going on in Ukraine. We are behind on the drone war front. This will provide us the opportunity to catch up. Which part of me wonders if this wasn't an added reason to do this Iran war. But China is so far behind. The idea of them be able to Taiwan is an absurdity to me.
I keep seeing this assertion that we're lagging in drone tech. This might have been true a few years ago, but it isn't now. We took Iran's infamous Shahed drone, reengineered it with better network technology and the ability to share data between drones, and made it less expensive and more effective.
We had the drone tech. We had the bad a$$ expensive ones and we now have the cheaper cost effective ones.
It's the counter drone tech that's mostly the concern.
It's really hard to stop cheap drones, like Shahid in a cost-effective manner
Agree fully with this.
Yep. Yiu can drive a semi through a city soon. Open the top. 10,000 drones come out seek and destroy with their own ai programs completely decentralized. Scary stuff.
LMCane said:javajaws said:LMCane said:
the Israelis will hopefully stick around over the skies of Teheran and use drones to kill every moving IRGC moped
Really hoping we get some tech soon for loitering drone carriers. Stay up in the air surveying the area, and launch one-way small suicide drones to take out any bad guys you see moving around. Cheap and fast response times.
considering the IDF literally does that all day every day over Khan Yunis and the entire Gaza Strip for the past two years
I think they know what they are doing.
the only question is do their UAV have the range- which is likely why Iran fired missiles at neighboring Azerbaijan
Range requires bigger drones, and bigger drones mean bigger costs and slower response times. That's why you need air based drone carriers....especially in a place as large and remote as northern Iran.
Yukon Cornelius said:
I've heard there's stuff in development to launch a bunch of drones out of the back of a plane that the drones then fly to the target area. The drones can be run their own ai programs searching for targets. Completely disconnected from any other input so they can't be jammed or hacked.
What kind of drones are we going to use to wingman the F-47? From what I saw the new jet is designed to be a network hub for autonomous drones. Do we have any drones in development that can fly hypersonic to keep up with a fighter jet?
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you're right...we don't have the complete solution yet, but the systems are coming. My point about phalanx is that in theory we could saturate an area with them and in addition to other layers of defense we have a "viable" option until better comes along
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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